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How does it feel tone in here?

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kickassangel · 13/08/2012 22:43

I'm just pooling around on my iPad, wasting time, when I realized that Dadsnet is in the club section of mn and wondered how people felt about that?

Would it be more relevant to be in the parenting section, or does there even need to be a separate section?

Just curious, really, but it sort of feels like being a Dad is some kind of hobby group you might sign up to on a Thursday evening, when I suspect that really it's part of everyday life.

HelenMumsnet · 17/08/2012 15:02

Afternoon.

We don't want to delete this thread but we do have to ask you all, please, to stop attacking other groups of posters on MN and to stop repeatedly posting details about the recent 'hoohah' in the Feminism section.

To continue to do so looks very much like goading/inflaming - and that's absolutely not on.

HelenMumsnet · 17/08/2012 15:06

@anairofhopeFORGOLD

Helen why was a poster ban please?

We tend not to broadcast our reasons for banning/suspending posters - not least because, sometimes, the suspension is only temporary.

However, we will drop this particular poster a line.

HelenMumsnet · 17/08/2012 15:20

@SigmundFraude

Is there a particular reason for not wanting anyone to discuss hoohah's? It is rather restrictive, I can't quite understand it, particularly since everyone knows the details anyway.

Yes. Because it was a hugely upsetting period for many Mumsnetters. And since the details were discussed at great length at the time, anyone raking over all the details again does rather give the impression of goading/inflaming - which is against our Site rules.

HelenMumsnet · 17/08/2012 15:35

@MrGin

Yes, but it's all still going on Helen. I've seen at least 4 posts in the last few days of people saying they don't feel able to post in FWR. The same atmosphere is creeping back in there just under different names.

Many of those threads were a small group of people so I don't see how there can be mass upset amongst the MN massive really. Unless you feel the 'radFems' need special protection in some way.

It's not like we have been discussing it at length. Perhaps it should be in the talk guidelines. Don't mention the radFem wars of 2012.

If you have a problem with another poster or a group of other posters, please do report them to us or mail with with your concern. We will then look into it. But posting about your problems with another poster or a group of other posters is counter to our Talk philosophy and, if it strays into a personal attack, is likely to get you deleted - or worse.

HelenMumsnet · 17/08/2012 15:54

@UnimaginitiveDadThemedUsername

HelenMumsnet:

Just saw this of yours:

...it was a hugely upsetting period for many Mumsnetters...

Principally those who felt like they were being bullied out of certain boards.

Yet by deleting messages that are broadly in support of those people, you're like the school Head or Governors saying "Nope, there's no bullying here. Move along; nothing to see here..."

If there's still a problem, then you need to address the problem itself, not put sticking plasters over remote places like Dadsnet.

But we did address the problem, UnimaginativeDad. At length on a gazillion Site Stuff threads.

The problem is, as far as we're aware, resolved. We certainly haven't had any reports to the contrary.

Therefore, repeatedly posting about it does look like an attempt to open old wounds and start another bunfight.

HelenMumsnet · 17/08/2012 15:56

@SigmundFraude

I do kind of understand what you mean Helen..but raking over things tends to be human, rather than goading etc. And the hoohah that cracked off will always spring back to life, purely because it's unmentionable.

I do get that people have been upset, but to you go with the small minority and ban all mention for their sakes? Freedom of speech and all that.

Anyway, I haven't been talking about she who must not be named for a good while, so I'll continue along that road..

It's not unmentionable, SigmundFraude. We're not trying to airbrush MN history.

But it is not on to post about it in a way that is accusatory or goading.

HelenMumsnet · 17/08/2012 15:59

@NewStartSameStory

Thing is that is does change the fact that the whole section of feminism can still be an incredibly intimidating area. It was before and it was after. Are you saying we are no longer allowed to voice this opinion?

It's fine to voice that opinion, NewStart. It's not fine to attribute the reason for that opinion to one Mumsnetter or one clearly defined group of Mumsnetters (both of these would be personal attacks).

HelenMumsnet · 17/08/2012 16:00

@MrGin

Therefore, repeatedly posting about it does look like an attempt to open old wounds and start another bunfight.

What a few brief and broad comments in an obscure part on MN buried amongst a whole bunch of general chit chat is an attempt to start a bunfight ? What with ourselves ?

It's ridiculous.

It doesn't matter where it's posted, MrGin. Our rules apply across all the boards, however great or small the traffic.

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