The rolling Football thread

[BelfastBloke]

There are quite a lot of football fans on MN, and also loads of football-haters. If we hide here in Dadsnet, none of the detractors will find us. But if they do, they are welcome to come here and moan.

You don?t have to be male to post here, of course. (No-one would say women can?t post in the Dadsnet section, just like no woman would EVER say men aren?t welcome on Mumsnet?)

Footy fans please sign in with

1. Which team you support.
2. Which team(s) you loathe.
3. How you are getting your kids to follow the correct team.

1. A thought on the season so far (Premiership/Championship/Champions? League/FA Cup/League Cup/(el clasico?)/World Cup bids.

Well, these are new feelings. Irritation doesn't come anywhere near close.

We had started to believe our own hyperbole.....but still rubbish displays against Basle and Norwich wasn't enough to waken them up.

As much as it hurts...well done City.....feck, I never thought I'd find myself saying that.

The comparator with 8-2 Arsenal are useless. When we pummelled you, you were on the ropes already. And away at O.T. This morning we were second and at home, with almost a fully available squad. It was the utter collapse I can't get over atm.

I see Chelski are down to 9 men.

Ooh, really? Do you think it's worth turning on the Chelsea match?

You're right about the 8-2. It's not exactly comparable - as you say, a very full squad for you today. But you weren't particularly gloaty at that time, so I won't rub it in.

It is a bit daunting when Nasri's coming off the bench, isn't it. Wish we hadn't let him go - and he's playing MUCH better for them than for us. I think he'd given up on us --- and Wenger allows that mentality to happen.

We won 3-1 today with Van Persie coming off the bench to score two. I think I'm right in saying he's now got 25 goals in 26 matches. He's carrying the team right now and yet he always gets injured in a season.

Thanks for the non-gloaty thing, BB. Kicking when down is rubbish. Ican take it from Barca. Eventually. But not from City.
vP - really tricky situation. Still, relegation position to 7th in a few short weeks is pretty good going.
Evans - just can't concentrate for a full 90 mins - lets his man go, once, and the game is screwed.

though I do fear for Everton next weekend...

Go you Gooners! ( something else I never thought I'd say). Will record MoD and try to watch it slow-mo just to make it last that bit longer.

Did you see it, Pan? It was joyous, and a really fascinating game regardless.

PS Did you see on the classic fiction thread that I was already near the end of the trilogy that you recommended?

no, Sat. is usually housework time in Panland - do you mean the Robertson Davies Deptford Trilogy, BB?

oh yes, just seen the thread. Whaddya think? I just found them so intelligent. And love the European avant-garde atmosphere of the third book.

Have yet to read the 'Cornish' trilogy, though is bumping around in the back of my mind. Anther from him is "The Cunning Man", in part a struggle between the medical and clerics worlds.

I've started the Cornish Trilogy before finishing the Deptford Trilogy. I know I'll like it, because of the subject matter, but it's a bit disconcerting because each chapter of the first book is from a different character's point of view, but you only gradually glean which character it is.

None of which is to detract from the fantastic Arsenal performance today.

Two key moments stand out for me: Our goalie SZCZ could well have been sent off for a clear foul outside the area on Ashley Cole. That could have changed the game, of course.

And when Terry realised he couldn't catch RVP for his 2nd goal, he just pretended to slip. I watched it several times and am convinced he dived, to hide his shame and irritation.

ah. not his week. Couldn't happen to a nastier man.

and what was RvP's fascist-like salute all about? 2nd goal I think? and of course the goalie should have been off - MoD reports his twitter as saying' what was I doing still on the pitch?'

This is turning in to the Comedy PL.

and yes, RD keeps you on your toes, doesn't he? I think he structures the stuff very well, but meanders whilst in there. Says me, the critic.

Marseille carved us open many times last night. Good thing they kept missing the goal.

Good thing we had Vermaalen back. His song is to the tune of 'Oh My darling Clementine':
'Oh Vermaalen, Oh Vermaalen, Oh Vermaalen, Number Five
Fuck yer Rooneys, Fuck yer Drogbas,
He will eat them cunts alive.'

The song about Per Mertesacker is (tune of 'Guantanamero', or 'Vieira')
'Big Fuckin German,
We've got a Big Fuckin German,
Big Fucking Ge-erman...'

You asked about Robin Van Persie's 'Nazi' salute. Very unlikely to be anything other than an accident, I'd've thought, given his wife is a Morroccan-Dutch muslim.

I feel like I've been reading the Deptford Trilogy for ages, because I have, because of children duties. It means I think of it as more 'choppy' than it actually is. Should conclude it today though.

So which is the best game tonight to watch as a neutral? Man U, or Man Citeh?

Which one is ITV showing?

From the Guardian: "Some of the Chelsea travelling contingent were clearly heard singing, "Anton Ferdinand, you know what you are" ? apparently in support of captain John Terry, who is now under police investigation over allegations he racially abused Ferdinand during last month's west London derby, something he denies."

Shows how what players do directly influences fan behaviour.

ITV, round here at least have Citeh.....cue me and the radio and Utd taking on the might of Romania.......unless I hear that Citeh are struggling badly.

It is my highly dubious pleasure to be cycling past the Etihad Stadium every morning, and every evening to and fro work....I can only avert my eyes.

didn't know that about vP's wife..he jusy looks like a sneaky little school boy.
And we had a similalry witty and esoteric song about Stam...something like "He's called Yip-Yap Stamm..he's big and Dutch and called Yip-Yap Stamm". Oh how we laughed.

Not as gud as Fulham's affectionate lines:

When the ball hits your head
and you're sat in row Z,
That's Zamora

players and crowds, indeed. If their play can excite a crowd, then it must surely be acknowledged the influence can be a malign one as well?

I was planning to watch Citeh until I heard that Michael Owen is starting for your lot. I'm fascinated by Owen at Utd.

all us too! It's a bit like watching a jumbo jet managing to take off. "how the feck does that work?"

And Rooney in midfield behind Berb and Owen. Interesting.

He was never able to stay as a lone striker for England, kept drifting back to defence and stuff, so will he get in the strikers' way tonight?

So, Pan, I hate Man Utd, and they've been asking for it [to be knocked off their feckin perch] for years.

Hate speech?

Oh please.

in the absence of footy, i'm watching Ali vs frazier 1971. They're calling him Clay.

Get my PM?

yup. Clay. Indicative. Is it Sky Sports? not seeing it elsewhere.

yeah sky sports. Weirdly, Harry is calling him clay during the rounds and Ali in the breaks