8 teenagers in one car that crashed

[Fromhere1]

So they were driving the wrong way on a motorway and crashed in to a single driver. At 5.30am. Apparently the car was stolen. I'm seeing photos on tiktok and they look to be very young.

Where the hell are the parents in this?! I'm seeing tiktoks where the families of these 8 boys are asking for prayers, etc. I wonder if they feel any shame at all?! Or is that an emotion they are unfamiliar with.

I think these parents need to be held accountable in some way... My sympathy lies entirely with the driver of the other car.

Very true I would say the parents of these kids and I would socialise in rather different circles. VERY different circles.

I think many of the apologists on this thread are probably English with no real understanding of the continual mayhem that certain ‘vulnerable types’ inflict on ordinary folk living their lives here in Ireland.

Plus all the awful suffering they regularly inflict upon their poor animals. How often have you driven on a busy road and discovered two poor ponies being made to race through fast moving traffic? It’s despicable what they get away with.

To the people defending these idiots, do you consider yourselves extreme left-wing?

I remember a conversation I had after one of the terror attacks in London - London Bridge, the attacker stabbed and murdered several people. Different situation but my friend's first response (after hearing this POS had stabbed and murdered two separate young people and started to attack more and then had been shot by police) was to tweet "why did the police shoot as their first instinct?" No thoughts at all for the victims, her first instinct was to leap to the defence of a maniac who had just murdered. The reason the police shot him was because he was continuing to attempt to murder innocent people.

It seems that type of bending over backwards to performatively sympathise with the minority in ALL situations no matter the context actually creates more hostility by people who are fed up with such absence of common sense.

It shouldn't be controversial to say 'here these people are behaving like shite, we need to do something about this'.

Eh.. I am left wing and I have no sympathy for them nor their parents. It has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with certain protected people being a scourge on ordinary Irish peoples lives.

I've been assuming that the people here defending it haven't read or understood what happened.

And I assume the people in the real world defending it, knew the boys.

I've read one report that said the parents of one of the dead boys are Polish. Don't know if it's true.

I think many of the apologists on this thread are probably English with no real understanding....

We have them in England too, though I suppose it's a far smaller proportion of the population. In one area of my county there would often be ponies and traps being driven on the roads - maybe still are, I haven't been there for a while.

Any attempt to discuss the issues here on MN gets shut down because it's racist.

Sad story all round.

I've read one report that said the parents of one of the dead boys are Polish.

BBC quoting RTE says several of the boys who died in the crash had "strong links" to Carlow town and to Athy in County Kildare. Doesn't preclude one of the families being Polish, I suppose.

Reports consistently say 'boys', so I suppose all under 18.

One of the boys I saw being named on tiktok yesterday had a Polish name.

UPDATED: Five teens killed in Kildare motorway crash named locally - News - Kildare Nationalist

The Daily Mail has different names, including one Polish name.
And includes photos of them all.

I think the Kildare article is probably correct.

You are so naive @Fromhere1

You know what would help?
Have youth clubs
Reduce poverty
Give support to parents
Have activities accessible to those teens so Theyre not left hanging round in the streets
Support at school so they can see a future for themselves.

Not lectures. Not making them apologise. Not following any and every SM just in case.

To my mind any kid who is out at 3am ‘joyriding’ in a stolen car is not a good kid from a good family. I wonder if we’ll get, ‘they weren’t bad kids they were just mischievous cheeky chappies’ from any of the families. No doubt the parents feel genuine grief, but they should be looking at themselves and their slack parenting as the ultimate cause. I feel really bad for the other car’s passengers. I hope they make good recoveries.

I wouldn't bother replying to all these "compassionate" people.

It is very easy to have compassion when your loved one hasn't been killed by one of these low lives.

They would soon change their tune if their child was killed by a stolen car.

Support at school? Once again, these were 13-16 year olds driving the wrong way on a motorway in the small hours of the morning.

They don’t need extra milk or a few minutes in the home corner.

A few seconds on Google reveals that there is a Youth Centre offering various activities on Tullow Road in Carlow, where these boys are said to be from. Plus a variety of other youth initiatives, including one specifically for that community.

Youth clubs and other youth activities are rarely used by these kids. Far too tame for them and OMG there's someone in charge of me, telling me what to do, can't be having that.

Not cool. Only horses, sulky racing on main roads, and stolen cars the wrong way on motorways appeal.

Most areas have a range of youth clubs for teens, not just GAA sports clubs.

However, the sort of teens that go out stealing cars and causing mayhem aren’t the sort who will be interested in attending regular social activities that don’t allow vaping and drinking.

It is however an act which terrorises people, the poor family that were badly injured by the late, unlamented, morons must have been terrified seeing the car coming at them

Youth clubs? For boys like that? Who is naive?! Jesus.

Youth clubs, give me strength.

i have family in Kildare. These lads had no respect for their own safety or for any body else. At least they can’t hurt any more people now. No doubt they will be mourned as somebody’s son. But that doesn’t make them deserving of any public sympathy whatsoever.

Tell me you are naive and deluded without telling me you are naive and deluded. You must be joking. Youth clubs, remove poverty, support their parents. These lads and their communities have never been supported more than now. Theres Deis schools with free everything everywhere. Welfare payments. Plenty options to contribute to communities if you want to. Can't see these lads ever considered rocking up to Foroige to help run a fundraiser for senior citizens.

I dont understand how Michael Martin and the commissioner can talk about this as if its news to them. The gang have been robbing and death riding for years. There's loads of court reports about them and yet today is the great announcement of not acceptable.