Jeffrey Donaldson

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He's just been found guilty of historical child sexual offences. I'm so glad that justice has been served for the two victims. His vile wife has also been found guilty in her trial of the facts. So many thought they would both be cleared because of who they are.

You can watch the BBC regional channels live if you scroll down in your TV guide (I have Virgin so not sure about other digital providers). BBC1 NI is listed at 963 on Virgin. not sure but it will be there somewhere if you look for it.

I read somewhere that the day after that incident she told him to “be careful around children”. As if that was enough action to take. Vile, vile people.

"I read somewhere that the day after that incident she told him to “be careful around children”."

Let me guess, be careful because the children were sinful temptresses sent by Satan to lure him off the path of righteousness?
There aren't enough angry vomit emojis...

ED said she had asked her husband repeatedly about the above incident, but she doesn't seem to have spoken to the child. Very odd given the circumstances. I think anyone involved in child safeguarding would advise you to speak to the child, not the perpetrator.

Sounds about right for their ilk, unfortunately

"ED said she had asked her husband repeatedly about the above incident, but she doesn't seem to have spoken to the child"

'70s and '80s- still a lot of:
"Children should be seen and not heard"
"Don't tell tales"
"The man is the head of the household"
"Don't make a scene"

Safeguarding consisted of
"Don't take sweets from strangers because of (unspecified) Stranger Danger"

Things have improved....a little bit.

I don't have much sympathy for Lady D, but thought experiment....if she had listened to the child, and the child had told her...(did she know about A and B?)...and despite upbringing, society and habit she had believed the female child over the adult man she had probably publicly sworn to obey... and she had gone to the police, or her church (his church), or the party (his party) , even the neighbours (the What will the neighbours think?) neighbours) or her family? - not her BIL obviously, as it turns out; what reception would she have received? Where was she going to go? England? alone and knowing nobody, in a time when women could be not hired or booted out of jobs pretty much at will if they had inconvenient family commitments. No flexible working requests then.

She should have done it. But still.

Yes. I agree with that @powershowerforanhour. So much came down to maintaining a facade, NI was then a very conservative society - divorce was considered a very extreme step when I grew up there, it was almost scandalous, especially among church-goers. But to choose to do nothing when a child is potentially being harmed - and this was the 80s/90s when people were starting to discuss CSA openly - is unforgivable.

Nah, not remotely justifying her actions.

Have you actually read anything about her trial? It goes way beyond believing the child or not, which is why she was found to have committed the act in all 5 of her charges.

alone and knowing nobody, in a time when women could be not hired or booted out of jobs pretty much at will

What?? This wasn’t the 30s! The abuse took place from the mid 80s to 2008, it was perfectly commonplace for women to have jobs.

Someone I know was convinced he was gay. Maintained he had a boyfriend in London.

I always thought he was gay too. Heard a few rumours lately about London...not boyfriend (s), as such. Will be watching Spotlight on Friday.

Wasn’t there some incident on a plane involving Jeffrey Donaldson about 2 years ago ?

"Have you actually read anything about her trial? It goes way beyond believing the child or not, which is why she was found to have committed the act in all 5 of her charges."

Could find very little- presumably a lot of the details would expose the identity of A and B.
"Aiding and abetting" must be pretty bad though, not the full Rose West, but bad. Since you wrote this I see that at least one of the complainants did tell her and she did nothing.

He was thumped by a bloke married to one of JD's relatives. It was very shortly before he was arrested and charged.

Boards.ie has speculation about something that happened in Kilkeel a while back, and general Co Down interconnected problematic individuals.

Oh yes! I'd forgotten all about that. Very strange affair.

What I heard wasn’t boyfriend sort of activities.

Yes, a man was carted off the plane for being verbally abusive to him. I don't know what was said, whether it was political abuse or "you filthy paedo". If the latter, perhaps the cops gently carried him off, got round the corner, patted him on the head and said "hush now, all in good time sir. We'll make sure the check in desk gets you on the next flight. Here's some tea and biscuits , there's a good lad,".

Is his resignation from the Privy Council and renunciation of his knighthood an admission that he actually is guilty? Or is it like his apology, all about something quite different?

Thank you @DeanElderberry
I screenshotted it.

Fucking RTÉ referring to his conviction for 'raping two women'. Long pause and a muttered 'when they were children'.

Don't whitewash it, he raped young children.

"Boards.ie has speculation about something that happened in Kilkeel a while back, and general Co Down interconnected problematic individuals."

Is that the thing that happened a couple of years ago? Can find a story about charges in relation to that, but no hearing of the case or conviction. How very curious. Interconnected problematic-ness indeed. I wonder if there is a big net trawling for a shoal, and when it is brought out of the water, how many 🐟will it contain? I do hope no fucker cuts the net.

Seems to be. The BBC thing might be interesting.

not sure will this be readable

www.boards.ie/discussion/2058344103/jeffrey-donaldson-steps-down-as-dup-leader-after-being-charged-with-historical-sex-crimes-read-op/p15

Thanks. Yes it's the thing I am thinking of. Really hoping anything and everything that needs to get dragged into the sunlight does, but fear that this could go more or less the same way as the world's most famous Jeffrey and that our wee Jeffrey's pals could continue stalk the planet unfettered the same as the other Jeffrey's pals.

Even more depressingly- where in the country and the world are the next Jeffrey and friends? Who knows and what information is being traded? There's always a next one.

He was also closely affiliated in his early years with Enoch Powell, another raging pedo.
There’s clearly much to still come out.
I wonder if we will ever see the Kincora files.

The UTV News tonight was discussing the fact that he will likely hold onto his pension. They said it appears it can only be taken away for serious offences like treason ... but not for the raping of children.

@Honeyhonay yes he worked with him as a young man and Molyneux also. I would love to think his downfall will bring down a house of cards. Those poor boys at Kincora and the Lost Boys of Belfast, the documentary on Youtube is heartbreaking. In the care of the state and treated like that.