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OchonAgusOchonOh · 19/12/2024 00:01

XmasAlone · 18/12/2024 23:51

I don't know. In my head it made sense.
I could be going mad!

I know the way. Something makes some form of perverse sense and just gets more embedded the more you think about it. I blame it all on the menopause these days.

Blamed it on the children before that, mind.

Wishimaywishimight · 19/12/2024 09:05

@XmasAlone At this time of year everything can be blamed on Christmas / end of year exhaustion 😉

Abhannmor · 19/12/2024 09:32

ChimneyPot · 18/12/2024 17:21

But sure if you died on a Monday and the funeral was on Thursday it would be all over before it was in the newsletter/bulletin on Sunday.

Before RIP.ie people relied on “The Deaths” on the local radio station. Essential listening for people of a certain age in Ireland.

Radio Kerry has been informed of the following recent deaths blah blah...
BBC radio 4 did a programme about Irish local radio Death announcement. They were surprised how business like it all was. Times , dates , places etc. No little tributes or potted biography But sure we know all that lads! When is the flipping removal because I can't make the church !

SomuchtodoandhereIam · 19/12/2024 10:25

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/12/2024 23:35

Why would 1% of the population die every year? I don't understand your logic there?

But that’s not too far out?
In Ireland it’s about .6 or .7%, in the UK it is about 1% now I think. It’s not expressed like that though. It’s 10 deaths per 1000 etc.

In countries where there’s a high birth rate then the death rate/percentage is lower because it’s expressed in terms of the population figures and the population is growing. And vice versa.

@XmasAlone, you’re not going mad at all, but the population size affects the numbers, so birth rate will affect the death percentages iyswim. Ireland’s population is growing.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 19/12/2024 10:36

SomuchtodoandhereIam · 19/12/2024 10:25

But that’s not too far out?
In Ireland it’s about .6 or .7%, in the UK it is about 1% now I think. It’s not expressed like that though. It’s 10 deaths per 1000 etc.

In countries where there’s a high birth rate then the death rate/percentage is lower because it’s expressed in terms of the population figures and the population is growing. And vice versa.

@XmasAlone, you’re not going mad at all, but the population size affects the numbers, so birth rate will affect the death percentages iyswim. Ireland’s population is growing.

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Yes but the percentage is, as you say, dependent on birth rate. It's not a fixed percentage. In countries with a high birth rate it's lower while it's higher when there's a low birth rate.

SomuchtodoandhereIam · 19/12/2024 10:43

Yes, but I don’t think @XmasAlone‘s back of the envelope calculations were too far out. They’re in the right ballpark. She forgot to take population increases in Ireland into account I think. The population was much smaller when current 80 year olds were born. I think that’s why she couldn’t get her figures to work.

BarbaraHoward · 19/12/2024 10:45

SomuchtodoandhereIam · 19/12/2024 10:43

Yes, but I don’t think @XmasAlone‘s back of the envelope calculations were too far out. They’re in the right ballpark. She forgot to take population increases in Ireland into account I think. The population was much smaller when current 80 year olds were born. I think that’s why she couldn’t get her figures to work.

Yes if there was no immigration or emigration it would be a great estimate, but we have net immigration these days and immigrants tend to be younger and healthier.

ChimneyPot · 19/12/2024 12:57

The population of Ireland increased by 35% from 2000 until now so we don’t have an even age distribution.

Otherwise the 1% would be a fair way of estimating deaths

mollyfolk · 21/12/2024 16:56

My worry now is that this will be a goldmine for RIP.ie and it will get a few competitors popping up. It's just handy having deaths in one central place.

SomuchtodoandhereIam · 08/01/2025 20:37

We won’t know where to look now!🤔

BliainNua · 09/01/2025 08:43

I think RIP.ie will remain the main one, a bit like Google where it becomes the fault... maybe even it'll be a verb? did you rip.ie it?

Those saying just check the church newsletter don't understand Irish funerals. My grandmother died on a Monday and was buried on Wednesday. Hundreds of people came, many who had never met her but my dad is one of 10 and they were a well known family in the village. People travelled from hundreds of miles away too, not family but friends of the bereaved.

Anyway back to the charge... in the grand scheme of things it's not a huge fee and it'll be lumped onto the funeral director's bill so I don't think most families will say No to it or even notice it.
Before rip.ie the funeral notices in the newspapers were a lot more... those had to be paid for too.

XmasAlone · 09/01/2025 09:12

I'm guessing that if they'd started at 49.99 and upped it to 100 after a few years most wouldn't have batted an eyelid.
I suspect by starting at 100, it'll be 200 in a few years.

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BliainNua · 09/01/2025 13:27

That's true @XmasAlone, it's only going one way!

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