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OverdueForAnEyeTest · 18/12/2024 13:11

Thanks, Dulra.

ChimneyPot · 18/12/2024 13:15

Funerals are so expensive €100 for RIP.ie seems like one of the better value items.

If people think rip.ie death notices are only for snoopers then as a family they can chose not to share the funeral arrangements on it or anywhere else.

I find it useful.

SomuchtodoandhereIam · 18/12/2024 13:32

Bartoz · 18/12/2024 09:47

Yes, snooping. A family of a deceased will let you know the arrangements, if you're not told back off and stop snooping. And don't turn up at the service.

It is the family who put up the notice @Bartoz. Very often the funeral director does so at their request, having discussed wording etc.
They do it to let everyone in their wider circle know, so they won’t have to ring round to tell people etc. They want you to look at it. If they didn’t they wouldn’t put up the notice at all.

I am very sorry to hear of your mother’s experience though.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/12/2024 13:36

XmasAlone · 18/12/2024 01:51

If the population of Ireland is 5 million and the life expectancy is 80 then 1/80th of 5m * 100 euro is 6.25 million euros per year.

Impressive maths but I don't think 1/80 of the population die every year😁

I asked Alexa and she said around 32,000 people die in Ireland each year. So assuming 5,000 don't use it (massive overestimation I would say), that is 28,000 entries so €2.8m a year. Plus the advertising on the page. Costs would be minimal so a massive profit.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/12/2024 13:40

Bartoz · 18/12/2024 09:47

Yes, snooping. A family of a deceased will let you know the arrangements, if you're not told back off and stop snooping. And don't turn up at the service.

I'm assuming you're not Irish? Other than relatives or parents of close friends, I've never been told the arrangements by the family. I hear about the death, I check rip.ie and I turn up to the removal. That's the way it works for most people.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/12/2024 13:41

TheRulerofThings · 18/12/2024 07:07

I was actually surprised it hasn’t been charging before, to be honest. But I can imagine what the callers to the Joe Duffy show will be like today.

€100 seems a bit steep. 35,500 people died in Ireland in 2023, which would give a turnover of €3.5m.
That being said, the website is outdated and clunky and needs upgrading to 2025 standards and a proper mobile site created. If some of the money is reinvested in that it would be a good thing. It’s an incredible resource to have and making sure it is maintained and stays free for users is very important.

Alexa told me 32,000 a year. She obviously needs to update her database.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/12/2024 13:43

SybilTheSpy · 18/12/2024 13:08

Maybe when I'm 99 I'll 'snoop' on RIP to see who within 15 miles of me has fallen off their perch on any given day. But at the moment, like the vast majority of people. I use it to find the details of funerals I need to attend.

I seem to recall reading about options to be updated on deaths in a particular locality or people of a certain name. It was a few years ago and might not have taken off.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/12/2024 13:45

Bartoz · 18/12/2024 12:07

I am Irish. And most rational Irish people I've said this to agree with me. I've also witnessed gawpers turn up at a family funeral and approach my mother when she was clearly grieving and "introduce" themselves.
Shocking behaviour and it's about time it's called out.

Don't involve yourself in other people's grief unless you're directly associated.

Definitely not my experience. Most people appreciate hearing what their loved one meant to others and appreciate people taking the time to come and offer condolences.

TheRulerofThings · 18/12/2024 13:48

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/12/2024 13:43

I seem to recall reading about options to be updated on deaths in a particular locality or people of a certain name. It was a few years ago and might not have taken off.

You can set alerts for names and localities on rip.ie.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/12/2024 13:49

TheRulerofThings · 18/12/2024 13:48

You can set alerts for names and localities on rip.ie.

That's something my pils would use if they were technically competent. Going to funerals is their main hobby.

YouveGotAFastCar · 18/12/2024 13:57

Bartoz · 18/12/2024 12:07

I am Irish. And most rational Irish people I've said this to agree with me. I've also witnessed gawpers turn up at a family funeral and approach my mother when she was clearly grieving and "introduce" themselves.
Shocking behaviour and it's about time it's called out.

Don't involve yourself in other people's grief unless you're directly associated.

This sounds like a reaction prompted by a specific incident, and I’m sorry that it was so upsetting for you and your mum.

I think overall, though, it’s a popular site in Ireland and people do seem to appreciate it. And I suppose that if the funeral you are referring to wasn’t listed there by your mum, and someone else did it; perhaps the chances of that happening lessen if it’s not free to add details?

SomuchtodoandhereIam · 18/12/2024 14:19

And I suppose that if the funeral you are referring to wasn’t listed there by your mum, and someone else did it; perhaps the chances of that happening lessen if it’s not free to add details?

@YouveGotAFastCar I don’t think anyone lists details on rip.ie except the family or its representatives anyway?

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 18/12/2024 14:46

I live in England. Parents and family all Irish. Can't you just publish a notice in the church newsletter?! My mum is always sending me updates on deaths of you know Mary who knew John who knew Fred who you met once when you were six months old...

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BarbaraHoward · 18/12/2024 14:51

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 18/12/2024 14:46

I live in England. Parents and family all Irish. Can't you just publish a notice in the church newsletter?! My mum is always sending me updates on deaths of you know Mary who knew John who knew Fred who you met once when you were six months old...

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So old school. Grin

RIP.ie is the main source now, although most families still use the local/national newspaper as well. Increasingly funerals are happening outside the church, so church newsletters not so much a thing.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/12/2024 14:52

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 18/12/2024 14:46

I live in England. Parents and family all Irish. Can't you just publish a notice in the church newsletter?! My mum is always sending me updates on deaths of you know Mary who knew John who knew Fred who you met once when you were six months old...

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I don't know if the church newsletter does death notices but even if they do, that's no help for anyone who doesn't go to mass or who doesn't live in the parish.

Obviously other parishes may be a bit more modern than mine and actually have an online newsletter 😁. You'd still need to know the parish though.

SybilTheSpy · 18/12/2024 14:54

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 18/12/2024 14:46

I live in England. Parents and family all Irish. Can't you just publish a notice in the church newsletter?! My mum is always sending me updates on deaths of you know Mary who knew John who knew Fred who you met once when you were six months old...

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the whole point is that anyone anywhere can look up the funeral details. Someone dies and a day or two later the details are there for all to see. I had to fly home for a funeral recently, and looking up the dates and time of the funeral made planning my travel so easy. .No idea how often parish newsletters are printed, but I doubt it's even weekly.

Liv999 · 18/12/2024 14:55

Wishimaywishimight · 18/12/2024 09:34

I actually found some comfort in reading the condolence messages left for my dad - people who hadn't met him in years or who had worked with him decades ago left lovely messages and memories of him. I printed these out and still have them.

It's not all about 'snooping'.

Shame about the charge, it does smack of greed however it will just become part of the funeral director's charge so many people won't even particularly notice (yes, of course, many will also struggle with the already large expense of the funeral).

I did the same when my dad passed away, I've kept all the lovely condolences in a folder

BarbaraHoward · 18/12/2024 14:56

Liv999 · 18/12/2024 14:55

I did the same when my dad passed away, I've kept all the lovely condolences in a folder

The first time I ever saw the condolences used was when my dad died during covid. It was lovely to get messages from people who couldn't come in person but would have done otherwise.

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 18/12/2024 15:01

Ours are weekly, but surely if you know someone who has died you would know the funeral details. Realise there are cultural issues around death and funerals though!

BarbaraHoward · 18/12/2024 15:03

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 18/12/2024 15:01

Ours are weekly, but surely if you know someone who has died you would know the funeral details. Realise there are cultural issues around death and funerals though!

Irish funerals happening within 2 or 3 days of the death, so the info needs to get out quickly. We also attend more funerals than in the UK, so you would need to get the word out to hundreds of people in a lot of cases. Word of mouth and the paper used to do it, but RIP.ie is brilliant.

Seagullsinawinterwonderland · 18/12/2024 15:03

I'm up north but I paid £150 for the Belfast Telegraph paper and website in August, Funeral Times was free. Honestly it was well worth it as I wasn't in the headspace to phone everyone she may have known. It was announced in Church too but not much good for her friends and extended family who were in Count Derry, Antrim and Down.

Between keeping the wake going organising the funeral and funeral tea in the church as there was way to many people to fit in my wee house my head was turned. Thankfully the Church ladies did the funeral tea with Presbyterian sandwiches and traybakes aplenty.

SybilTheSpy · 18/12/2024 15:04

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 18/12/2024 15:01

Ours are weekly, but surely if you know someone who has died you would know the funeral details. Realise there are cultural issues around death and funerals though!

uh, yeah we know the funeral details because they're uploaded to rip.ie...

That's the whole point.

No need to text the grieving and aske them.

It's a pretty simple process...

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 18/12/2024 15:05

Seagullsinawinterwonderland · 18/12/2024 15:03

I'm up north but I paid £150 for the Belfast Telegraph paper and website in August, Funeral Times was free. Honestly it was well worth it as I wasn't in the headspace to phone everyone she may have known. It was announced in Church too but not much good for her friends and extended family who were in Count Derry, Antrim and Down.

Between keeping the wake going organising the funeral and funeral tea in the church as there was way to many people to fit in my wee house my head was turned. Thankfully the Church ladies did the funeral tea with Presbyterian sandwiches and traybakes aplenty.

Please enlighten me on what makes a sandwich Presbyterian?!?

BarbaraHoward · 18/12/2024 15:07

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 18/12/2024 15:05

Please enlighten me on what makes a sandwich Presbyterian?!?

As a southern Catholic who knows nothing of these things, I believe: apple.

Seagullsinawinterwonderland · 18/12/2024 15:07

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 18/12/2024 15:05

Please enlighten me on what makes a sandwich Presbyterian?!?

Combinations. Mars bar and apple for example 😂