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SomuchtodoandhereIam · 18/12/2024 15:16

Or grape and chicken.

Abhannmor · 18/12/2024 15:22

Seagullsinawinterwonderland · 18/12/2024 15:03

I'm up north but I paid £150 for the Belfast Telegraph paper and website in August, Funeral Times was free. Honestly it was well worth it as I wasn't in the headspace to phone everyone she may have known. It was announced in Church too but not much good for her friends and extended family who were in Count Derry, Antrim and Down.

Between keeping the wake going organising the funeral and funeral tea in the church as there was way to many people to fit in my wee house my head was turned. Thankfully the Church ladies did the funeral tea with Presbyterian sandwiches and traybakes aplenty.

Are Presbyterian sandwiches as good as I've heard! ?

I check our local Ballybonkers.ie website occasionally. Or the pub.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/12/2024 15:29

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 18/12/2024 15:01

Ours are weekly, but surely if you know someone who has died you would know the funeral details. Realise there are cultural issues around death and funerals though!

The vast majority of funerals I go to, I've never met or barely know the person who died. It's a parent of a friend or neighbour etc.

Seagullsinawinterwonderland · 18/12/2024 15:46

Abhannmor · 18/12/2024 15:22

Are Presbyterian sandwiches as good as I've heard! ?

I check our local Ballybonkers.ie website occasionally. Or the pub.

The traybakes are better. It's unbelievable how many variations. Apple creams are a favourite of mine.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/12/2024 16:52

Seagullsinawinterwonderland · 18/12/2024 15:46

The traybakes are better. It's unbelievable how many variations. Apple creams are a favourite of mine.

Can we have some recipes? I've never had a Presbyterian tray bake. Or sandwich for that matter.

SybilTheSpy · 18/12/2024 16:54

there's a long traybake thread in Classics. I'll see if I can find it.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/12/2024 17:01

Excellent. Thank you @SybilTheSpy

Are the Presbyterian ones a special niche area of protestant traybakes or are they all the one?

SybilTheSpy · 18/12/2024 17:03

that would be an ecumenical matter

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/12/2024 17:06

SybilTheSpy · 18/12/2024 17:03

that would be an ecumenical matter

😂

BarbaraHoward · 18/12/2024 17:06

SybilTheSpy · 18/12/2024 17:03

that would be an ecumenical matter

Very good. Very very good.

ChimneyPot · 18/12/2024 17:21

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 18/12/2024 14:46

I live in England. Parents and family all Irish. Can't you just publish a notice in the church newsletter?! My mum is always sending me updates on deaths of you know Mary who knew John who knew Fred who you met once when you were six months old...

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But sure if you died on a Monday and the funeral was on Thursday it would be all over before it was in the newsletter/bulletin on Sunday.

Before RIP.ie people relied on “The Deaths” on the local radio station. Essential listening for people of a certain age in Ireland.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/12/2024 17:37

ChimneyPot · 18/12/2024 17:21

But sure if you died on a Monday and the funeral was on Thursday it would be all over before it was in the newsletter/bulletin on Sunday.

Before RIP.ie people relied on “The Deaths” on the local radio station. Essential listening for people of a certain age in Ireland.

If you died early enough on the monday, the removal would be on the tuesday and the burial on the wednesday.

deeahgwitch · 18/12/2024 18:19

I never realised that you have to pay for the death notices that are read out on local radio.
I thought they did out of the kindness of their heart for their poor bereaved listeners.
I am an eejit ! 🙈

SparkyBlue · 18/12/2024 18:43

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 18/12/2024 14:46

I live in England. Parents and family all Irish. Can't you just publish a notice in the church newsletter?! My mum is always sending me updates on deaths of you know Mary who knew John who knew Fred who you met once when you were six months old...

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I've never come across a church newsletter. They often send something around at Easter or Christmas but it's not a thing where I am and definitely a lot of funerals in my area have no church involvement anyway . I know people don't attend funerals in the same way as they used to so it's great to be able to send your condolences on rip.ie.

romdowa · 18/12/2024 18:45

deeahgwitch · 18/12/2024 18:19

I never realised that you have to pay for the death notices that are read out on local radio.
I thought they did out of the kindness of their heart for their poor bereaved listeners.
I am an eejit ! 🙈

Some radio stations ask for upwards of 160 quid apparently 😅 so rip are a bit more reasonable than that

LookItsMeAgain · 18/12/2024 18:49

That's a charge that will be passed on to the grieving families. I don't think it costs that much to post a notice in a paper. That's such a scam when it's been completely fee free up to know. Why can't they charge their advertisers instead?

Taytocrisps · 18/12/2024 19:40

Deadringer · 18/12/2024 13:00

What sort of loser would spend time snooping on rip.ie. The only people I know who use it want to check funeral arrangements or add a message. I still go back and read some of the messages on my mum's page, she died in the summer. Bereaved people don't always have the time or energy to contact everyone so it's a godsend in those circumstances. I think 100 euro is a bit steep but I suppose people will pay it.

You'd be surprised. I worked with a woman who checked it religiously every day.

As for the charge, I think you would have had to pay to place a notice in the newspaper in any case (before we had rip.ie). So there was probably always a charge. But it's a steep jump from €0 to €100. They'd have been better to bring in an initial charge of €50 and then up it by €10 a year.

XmasAlone · 18/12/2024 23:17

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/12/2024 13:36

Impressive maths but I don't think 1/80 of the population die every year😁

I asked Alexa and she said around 32,000 people die in Ireland each year. So assuming 5,000 don't use it (massive overestimation I would say), that is 28,000 entries so €2.8m a year. Plus the advertising on the page. Costs would be minimal so a massive profit.

I'm probably being stupid here (wouldn't be the first time), but can anyone explain in baby language where my maths logic is flawed?

In 5m people, if the life expectancy is, say, 100 then surely 1%of the population will die in any given year, which is 50,000, considerably more than Alexa's 32k.
Given that the life expectancy is much less than 100, then more than 50k are dying each year, probably closer to twice the Alexa figure.

Unless thousands of people are heading off to Florida or Spain to pop their clogs, then it doesn't make sense.

I do know a neighbour back in Ireland who continued to draw his uncles sheep headage payment for many years after he had died.
Maybe he never declared him dead.
Maybe thousands are doing this!

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BarbaraHoward · 18/12/2024 23:25

The population isn't uniformly distributed across all ages - there's fewer 80yos than 20yos, and 20yos are much less likely to die than 80yos.

XmasAlone · 18/12/2024 23:30

@BarbaraHoward but I wasn't talking about the number of 80 year olds dying in any given year.
I am trying to understand why if the life expectancy is 80, how come the number of people who die each year (irrespective of age) isn't 1/80.

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OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/12/2024 23:35

XmasAlone · 18/12/2024 23:17

I'm probably being stupid here (wouldn't be the first time), but can anyone explain in baby language where my maths logic is flawed?

In 5m people, if the life expectancy is, say, 100 then surely 1%of the population will die in any given year, which is 50,000, considerably more than Alexa's 32k.
Given that the life expectancy is much less than 100, then more than 50k are dying each year, probably closer to twice the Alexa figure.

Unless thousands of people are heading off to Florida or Spain to pop their clogs, then it doesn't make sense.

I do know a neighbour back in Ireland who continued to draw his uncles sheep headage payment for many years after he had died.
Maybe he never declared him dead.
Maybe thousands are doing this!

Why would 1% of the population die every year? I don't understand your logic there?

FabulousPharmacyst · 18/12/2024 23:48

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/12/2024 17:01

Excellent. Thank you @SybilTheSpy

Are the Presbyterian ones a special niche area of protestant traybakes or are they all the one?

I made the mint aero traybakes from one of the recipes linked and it was glorious. nearly converted off the back of it.

XmasAlone · 18/12/2024 23:51

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/12/2024 23:35

Why would 1% of the population die every year? I don't understand your logic there?

I don't know. In my head it made sense.
I could be going mad!

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