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Conor McGregor case

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Lisanoonan · 13/11/2024 20:09

The case that is ongoing at the moment. Any thoughts?

He allegedly left her with a lot of bruises.

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wobblyweewoman · 22/11/2024 18:09

Well done Nikita you are wonderful. Brilliant result.

DeanElderberry · 22/11/2024 18:09

Thank God for that. Nikita has done a service to women in Ireland.

MarieDeGournay · 22/11/2024 18:20

Interesting legal trivia - his barrister, Remy Farrell and hers, Ray Boland, were in the same class in school. I wonder how Farrell sleeps at night.
In fairness, asparagusffern, that's Farrell's job, and it's an important one - if McGregor hadn't been properly defended by competent lawyers, the verdict would be devalued. Every defendant has to be properly represented to ensure a fair trial. Even the scumbags. Their nastiness doesn't rub off on their legal team.

I wonder will McG's supporters now start portraying him as a victim of wokeness or something?

Wonderful speech by Nikita Hand outside the court. She's so brave, and it's great that she got justice at last.

AnImaginaryCat · 22/11/2024 18:25

Didn't expect that. So pleased Nikita won. What an incrediblly brave woman.

Though I'd be worried she'll not be left alone by CMcG or his supporters. You see that it's now be revealed the intimidation she was subjected to prior to the trial. Her house invaded by masked men and her partner stabbed.

Why Dee stands by CMcG is incomprehensible.

SquawkerTexasRanger · 22/11/2024 18:25

I’m over the moon for Nakita. Hopefully she can move on with her life and try to heal now. I am glad he’s been exposed for the violent rapist that he is. There are more of his victims out there no doubt

WaveyGodshawk · 22/11/2024 18:34

Prick

AnImaginaryCat · 22/11/2024 18:36

Unbelievable.

Well it's not because it's him. Can see the responses as I'm not on twitter

ThatRareUmberJoker · 22/11/2024 18:53

Now the CPS has reopen the case and charge him for rape and sexual assault. I am in shock at what I am hearing.

Liv999 · 22/11/2024 18:55

Absolutely delighted for her and the women of Ireland, a very emotional speech outside the High Court, well done Nikita 👏

FancyRedRobin · 22/11/2024 18:58

What excuse did the DPP have for not prosecuting him? I just don't get it. The physical evidence alone is as damning as it gets.

mollyfolk · 22/11/2024 19:01

rainingitspouring2 · 22/11/2024 17:11

What do people think about Dee being at court today and standing by him. He admitted to oral and said they had athletic and enthusiastic consensual sex (at attempt at a feeble excuse). Would you be showing this much support if this was your man?

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No I wouldn't. I'd be out the door even if I believed his version of events.

I think Dee has done nothing wrong amd bares no responsibility for his actions. He's such a loose canon that it is hard to believe that she hasn't seen him be violent toward here.

Maybe she is in some kind of controlling relationship with him,
Maybe she is scared of him
Maybe he put it down to drink/drug problems, profusely apologised & promised the sun, moon and stars to her. Women go back to men who have violently abused them all the time under this situation.
Maybe she is playing a long game so she can marry him before she leaves him.

Who knows. I'd love to know because I'm noisy as hell but I think it's important to note that she has not committed any crime.

AnImaginaryCat · 22/11/2024 19:03

Must add i was concerned she had even less of a chance with all the things the judge said to the jury.

mollyfolk · 22/11/2024 19:04

AnImaginaryCat · 22/11/2024 18:25

Didn't expect that. So pleased Nikita won. What an incrediblly brave woman.

Though I'd be worried she'll not be left alone by CMcG or his supporters. You see that it's now be revealed the intimidation she was subjected to prior to the trial. Her house invaded by masked men and her partner stabbed.

Why Dee stands by CMcG is incomprehensible.

Where did you hear that?

God the poor woman will have to move out of the country altogether.

Lallydallydune · 22/11/2024 19:11

I see that conor has just described the payout as "modest".

A humble brag from him to show that he doesn't care.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 22/11/2024 19:15

Lallydallydune · 22/11/2024 19:11

I see that conor has just described the payout as "modest".

A humble brag from him to show that he doesn't care.

He will care now that open season has been declared. Let's see who comes for a bite of him next - I am very sure other women have similar grounds.

mollyfolk · 22/11/2024 19:18

Yes I would think this isn't the one and only time he has assaulted a woman.

Hopefully more will get the confidence to come forward.

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 22/11/2024 19:19

He absolutely cares. Just not really about the money. The process, the humiliation, the prospect of future cases.

sammylady37 · 22/11/2024 19:21

ThatRareUmberJoker · 22/11/2024 18:53

Now the CPS has reopen the case and charge him for rape and sexual assault. I am in shock at what I am hearing.

It’s nothing to do with the CPS and they have no jurisdiction in the matter.

SleepPrettyDarling · 22/11/2024 19:24

FancyRedRobin · 22/11/2024 18:58

What excuse did the DPP have for not prosecuting him? I just don't get it. The physical evidence alone is as damning as it gets.

There’s an article on independent.ie but it’s paywalled.

SleepPrettyDarling · 22/11/2024 19:30

I presume it was the absence of DNA that disproved JL had assaulted her. Can he be charged with perjury, I wonder? She never remembered him; that was one of the reasons her evidence seemed ‘inconsistent’ according to the DPP. It does appear he was only there to bolster McG’s claim that she ‘had sex with multiple men that night.’ What an absolute fool JL was. I really hope there is some legal consequence for him, and for McG. Not sure if the DPP can reopen this, as apparently the case was considered twice but not prosecuted. On the other hand, at least it wasn’t prosecuted and failed, so possibly McG could yet be charged?? (Not a lawyer)

SleepPrettyDarling · 22/11/2024 19:31

Another thing - the costs hearing is scheduled for Thursday.

sammylady37 · 22/11/2024 19:33

SleepPrettyDarling · 22/11/2024 19:24

There’s an article on independent.ie but it’s paywalled.

The reliability and consistency of witnesses, the existence of a second suspect who Nikita Hand had no recollection of having sex with, the amount of alcohol and drugs she consumed, and her demeanour in CCTV footage were all factors that prompted the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) not to bring criminal charges against Conor McGregor and James Lawrence.
The garda file was twice personally considered by the then DPP Claire Loftus, but the outcome was the same on both occasions.
The decision of the DPP was outlined during the High Court civil action taken by Ms Hand against Mr McGregor and Mr Lawrence, both of whom denied rape and claimed to have had consensual sex with her in a penthouse suite at the Beacon Hotel in Sandyford, Dublin, on December 9, 2018.
Details of the decision were given to the jury, but they were warned that it should not have a bearing on their deliberations.
The DPP’s decision was communicated to Ms Hand around 20 months after events in the hotel.
The trial heard Ms Hand only issued civil proceedings against both men, seeking damages, after being told there was no prospect of a criminal case.
She felt there was more than enough evidence for a criminal trial and told the Office of the DPP as much in a letter dated August 20, 2020, which she wrote with the assistance of Dublin Rape Crisis Centre.
“I am very unhappy. I feel I am being treated differently from other victims because one of the accused is a famous person,” she wrote.
Complainants are entitled to reasons when a prosecution is not taken. They can also request a review of such decisions. Ms Hand sought both.
Initially, only a limited explanation was forthcoming.
A letter from the DPP’s office on August 7, 2020 said that the garda file contained statements of evidence, a sexual assault treatment unit report, reports from Forensic Science Ireland, CCTV from various locations, records obtained from the hotel, mobile phone records, photographs, and cautioned interviews with suspects.
It said the job of the Office of the DPP was to ascertain if there was a reasonable prospect of obtaining a conviction based on the available evidence.
“We considered a number of offences, among which were rape and assault causing harm,” the letter said.
It said the file was considered by a lawyer in its directing section and that advice was also sought from a senior counsel with considerable experience of criminal cases. There was also a review by the director herself.
The letter said two suspects were identified during the garda investigation and consideration was given as to whether there was sufficient evidence to prosecute each of them.
Ms Hand was told an assessment was made of the available evidence, including the admissibility of evidence, and the sufficiency and strength of the evidence that would be presented at trial.
The letter went on to say a very high standard of proof was required.
“The prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the suspect did it. The suspect does not have to prove their innocence,” it said.
Ms Hand’s letter of August 20 protested that she had not been given “any real reasons”.
The Office of the DPP was more forthcoming in a subsequent letter sent to Ms Hand on November 3, 2020. By that stage there had been a review by Ms Loftus of the initial decision not to prosecute, which did not alter the director’s view.
This letter said Ms Loftus had concluded the decision “was correct and should stand” and that the identity of one of the suspects had no bearing on that decision.
It said the case was “a very complex one to decide on for various reasons”.
Ms Hand was told that the extent to which the evidence of witnesses was consistent and reliable was considered, as well as whether details in the evidence could be corroborated independently.
“One significant factor in this case was the existence of a second suspect who claims to have had sexual intercourse with you after you say you were raped by the first suspect,” the letter said.
Mr McGregor was the first suspect and Mr Lawrence the second suspect.
“As you know, you have no recollection of intercourse with the second suspect and have stated that if sex had taken place it would not have been consensual,” the letter continued.
“You also described in your statement the amount of alcohol and drugs you had consumed.
“The CCTV from the hotel as well as relevant witness statements from hotel staff and a taxi driver were considered.
“That evidence would not in general tend to support a prosecution in respect of the second suspect and also had relevance to the overall strength of the evidence with respect to the first suspect.
“It is not a question of who we as prosecutors believe. Our job is to assess whether there is a reasonable prospect of conviction on the basis of all of the evidence.
“The director concluded that there was no reasonable prospect of the conviction of either suspect in this case.”

Lallydallydune · 22/11/2024 19:36

I see that rte are now reporting that nikitas house was invaded earlier in the year, and her partner was stabbed.

Jesus the pair of them were lucky that they weren't killed.

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