Why isn't anyone discussing Coolock

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Just that really, with all the going ons why isn't it being discussed as a topic?

What is to discuss? People with too much time on their hands have decided to do this. The police are trying to stop it all. Nothing anyone can do really.

From the reports I've seen the communities have had enough of young males descending in their towns & feel they & their families are not safe as well as the fact that tax payers money is being spent to keep them.

It wont be their tax payers money anyway cos not one of them seem to have a job.
The factory was earmarked to be renovated for refugees not just the men but so far the women and kids are being housed in emergency accomodation so it would be mainly men to start with I guess. I understand the fear but peaceful protesting over this criminal activity would be better. The racism, the slurs, the violence - that is not MY Ireland.

Maybe they should build some of these multi occupancy houses / buildings around Dublin 4. There are many towns in Ireland where it mostly migrant males. A lot of those campaigning do work or are retired. The videos / recordings I seen the gardai appeared very heavy handed.

"Maybe they should build some of these multi occupancy houses / buildings around Dublin 4...."

I think that you will find at least one D4 office block is now housing such people

WRT Coolock : around the corner from that building the old Data Products unit has been in use for a similar purpose for a number of years

There are literally 100s if not thousands peacefully protesting in Coolock. Don't just swallow what the media and Helen nc are spouting. The owner of crown paints lives in Switzerland and has housed migrants before. Im all for peaceful protests. The Gardai are completely heavy handed. Just watch the banning of all / any protests with the Hate speech bill. Freedom of expression is vital in a democracy. Wanton violence is not ok by either side.

Definitely corrupt government lying and pushing their own agenda, many of whom are financially profiting from renting / providing properties to home these make economic migrants.
The news outlets reporting propaganda that they're racist thugs. It's lies the common people have a right to their say.

It's a bit like the Aaron Brady case a young man set up by the gardai and courts for a murder he did not commit and again the news outlets it permitted to report anything only their lies/narrative.

I was a migrant myself in the 70s/80s. A young male of fighting age like most of my compatriots. We often 'descended on the city ' especially at weekends. There was certain amount of ignorant racial intolerance. Religious bigotry too. No doubt there were genuine fears as well - given the bombings. But nobody tried to set my house on fire. Or throw all my possessions in the Thames.

I'm afraid I have zero sympathy for these violent racists - be they male or female. They look like the ' you wouldn't have 2 euros would ya bud? ' lads who infest every tram and railway terminus in Dublin. Or beat up tourists for fun and profit. And I don't believe for a second they want to live in an abandoned factory themselves.

I have many relatives who migrated over to England in the 70s and 80s and not one of them that I know of were given any handouts not one of them were put up in hotels or given as much as a blanket, there were no benefits handed out to them. Relatives as young as 14-16 arrived in England expecting to see the pavements lined with gold and were bitterly disappointed. They worked hard to provide for themselves & their families. It was hard but those who worked soon reaped the rewards.

You're conflating economic migrants with asylum seekers.

I'm surprised to hear that children emigrated with nowhere to live in England. I also thought that the Irish could claim benefits in England.

We could and did. We also availed of the NHS when our own service was too expensive. And got council housing. Mostly we worked hard. Didn't always pay tax. Especially if you were working for some dodgy subbie who was creaming it off.

I was sure the Irish could claim welfare in the 70s and 80s. I wasn't sure about council housing.

Rules might vary I different boroughs ? But I know three Irish families in council houses in London. And why not.

Yes if you are Irish you can claim council housing. I just checked, it doesn't depend on borough.

Any Irish I know moved to England has been able to claim housing and benefits. That goes from family back in the 70's and 80's to friends moving away about 10 years ago.

However I think it is different Irish moving there or British moving here compared to the whole refugee thing.

The site could have been used to build housing. It wasn't. It was procured from a Swiss resident to house asylum seekers instead. It is in the suburbs of Dublin near where very little has been done to improve the public realm of some of the deprived estates. Local people were not consulted at all.

Local People see that incomers are getting a slice of what they get and are not happy. Sinn Fein was their voice at one point, but that party has gone rogue to its base, so the people most affected are not happy. There's never a sniff of a similar set up in the salubrious suburbs of any city or town in Ireland. That's because the residents wouldn't have it, but have money and access to the cost of taking out injunctions, and are connected with many in Government so don't have to resort to marching and bringing attention to themselves.

You only have to read what Hazel Chu former Mayor of Dublin had to say about the fact that the tents were removed from her area. Not suitable for her area. Indeed but alright for everywhere else it seems. Can you see why there is anger?

It is no surprise to me that all the above have coalesced into fury. I don't blame them one bit. I do not condone violence of any sort though. In fact there was a peaceful march/demo of more than 3,000 people. Peaceful believe it or not. They are speaking for the majority not the thugs.

I think Crown Paints is dead in the water now. And any similar set up. The Government may push through but it won't be pretty and may inflame the situation further.

Yes of course it's different to asylum seekers. I was just questioning the poster who was saying that the Irish weren't entitled to anything in England.

Total bollocks. Irish people in the uk got council housing, dole, health care, education. The protesters are racists, end of.

They totally are racist thugs and they are a disgrace to the irish flag that they keep waving. I feel ashamed to share a nationality with them.

The protesters are not one homogeneous group. There was a residential protest on site for months the guards moved in with a very high handed approach & completely inflamed the situation. Bad actors have been attracted to participate.

Coolock is a very deprived area. There aren’t enough school places, access to GPs , housing or jobs.

Nobody would engage with the protestors. The attitude has been good enough for you peasants you WILL do as you’re told.

Simon Harris has dig his heels in & said the development will go ahead. Drew Harris has deliver created division pepper spraying old men & women peacefully protesting.

I live a few miles from Coolock &
know the area.

Exactly this, it’s absolutely disgraceful that people are being castoff as criminals and racist for objecting, if people are so in favour of this buildings housing 10’’s & 100’s of male economic migraints why don’t you offer to put them up in large disused buildings on your doorsteps.

Coolock has also taken in asylum seekers from Ukraine & many other areas. Who here would be happy to take 500+ in an area with nothing for them to do & nowhere to go where access to public services are already breaking.

Poor Coolock, poor Leeds, our countries appear to be pretty fucked up

Well Townbe unlimited procured the site and factory fair and square. They owner of that company has another company which is limited so he is fairly secure himself but they are regsterd to swords - maybe i got it wrong about someone saying owned by a swiss company? - but for all intents and purposes a seconds check tells you he has secured this under the correct terms of his company lock stock and barrel so honestly what can happen? The business/factory was bought for a specific reason which is cited online.