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Referendum!

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springbrigid · 09/02/2024 11:27

Anyone inclined to give an opinion? I am leaning towards a yes/no vote, the yes to remove what I see as sexist language in the constitution, the no because the government are so appalling in terms of providing services and rights to disabled citizens and I feel the clause is paternalistic and pushes care on families yet again

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VoteNONO · 06/03/2024 22:34

DanielGault · 06/03/2024 22:30

She wasn't exactly convincing. Really don't get why they put these amendments forward at all with seemingly so little thought/planning.

She was terrible.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/03/2024 22:35

DanielGault · 06/03/2024 22:11

I know. But it really does get dropped in everywhere.

I gave two very common examples of where people are being labelled far right. If the labelling wasn't commonplace for those two examples I wouldn't have been able to use them 🤷‍♀️

StephanieSuperpowers · 06/03/2024 22:37

Peader Tobin is very strong here.

DanielGault · 06/03/2024 22:38

I'm going to have to take to the bed if Toibin keeps making sense 🫣

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/03/2024 22:38

DanielGault · 06/03/2024 22:24

I feel uncomfortable when I find myself agreeing with McDowell

Yes, same here. But really, we are all likely to agree with everyone on at least one thing, even if it's just which biscuit is the best. It doesn't mean we agree with them on anything else.

VoteNONO · 06/03/2024 22:39

DanielGault · 06/03/2024 22:38

I'm going to have to take to the bed if Toibin keeps making sense 🫣

😁😁 He's very strong & passionate also. Norma is week opposition.

DanielGault · 06/03/2024 22:39

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/03/2024 22:38

Yes, same here. But really, we are all likely to agree with everyone on at least one thing, even if it's just which biscuit is the best. It doesn't mean we agree with them on anything else.

I know, it is just highly unusual and therefore discomfiting for me.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/03/2024 22:40

DanielGault · 06/03/2024 22:38

I'm going to have to take to the bed if Toibin keeps making sense 🫣

With a strong whiskey or a cup of tea?

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/03/2024 22:41

DanielGault · 06/03/2024 22:39

I know, it is just highly unusual and therefore discomfiting for me.

Yeah. That's why I keep telling myself that it's the same as us both liking chocolate hob nobs.

StephanieSuperpowers · 06/03/2024 22:41

Jesus, Norma is weak.

DanielGault · 06/03/2024 22:41

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/03/2024 22:40

With a strong whiskey or a cup of tea?

Smelling salts 😂

VoteNONO · 06/03/2024 22:42

The No side have come out so much stronger in the closing weeks debates.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/03/2024 22:44

That's another option.

But if you go for the cup of tea you can have a chocolate hob nob with it.

DanielGault · 06/03/2024 22:45

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/03/2024 22:44

That's another option.

But if you go for the cup of tea you can have a chocolate hob nob with it.

I'd be a hob nob traditionalist, chocolate not welcome!

DanielGault · 06/03/2024 22:46

Norma is trying to make a point but so unclear

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/03/2024 22:49

DanielGault · 06/03/2024 22:45

I'd be a hob nob traditionalist, chocolate not welcome!

Hmm. We'll have to agree to disagree.

DanielGault · 06/03/2024 22:50

The 'strive' thing is bad tbh.

Dublincailin · 06/03/2024 22:51

No legislation overrides the constitution,

Helen McEntee was repetitious, she just repeated the same words over again.

I don't feel she debated well, she couldn't move away script

DanielGault · 06/03/2024 22:51

Dublincailin · 06/03/2024 22:51

No legislation overrides the constitution,

Helen McEntee was repetitious, she just repeated the same words over again.

I don't feel she debated well, she couldn't move away script

Nothing new there.

Dublincailin · 06/03/2024 22:54

But she is not the right person to trot out.

VoteNONO · 06/03/2024 22:54

Why can't they just put women who work in & outside the home in the constitution?

Insert words rather than completely remove women from the constitution? Why can't mothers, fathers & guardians be put in?

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/03/2024 22:55

I can't believe Norma's finish. We provide secondary education too even though it's only primary guaranteed in the constitution.

DanielGault · 06/03/2024 22:57

Dublincailin · 06/03/2024 22:54

But she is not the right person to trot out.

I remember seeing her talking about the riots in Dublin and she was brutal. No redeeming features from a PR or political point of view. I suppose she just inherited the family business, she's not necessarily actually good at it.

DanielGault · 06/03/2024 22:58

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/03/2024 22:55

I can't believe Norma's finish. We provide secondary education too even though it's only primary guaranteed in the constitution.

And the big 'gotcha' head on her!

VoteNONO · 06/03/2024 22:59

Whether you like Peadar or not he is an excellent debater.

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