Irish passport

[RatatouilleAndFeta]

Has anyone on here , in England with an Irish grandparent applied for one?
Can you let me know where to begin please?

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https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving-country/irish-citizenship/irish-citizenship-through-birth-or-descent/#:~:text=Citizenship%20through%20descent%20from%20Irish,in%20the%20Foreign%20Births%20Register.

Thanks so much 🙏

I got one. The foreign births registration took ages (but they were all locked away in a filing cabinet for a bit over Covid) but then once I got that the passport came through really quickly.

It's a bit annoying that your kids cant get one unless you registered your own birth before they were born.

Thanks. Good to know.

Yeah, it never occurred to me that I'd need Irish citizenship in my lifetime. DD isn't entitled.

So just to clarify, my DH hasn’t registered his birth yet, so our already born kids don’t qualify for one ?

No they don’t. The parent has to be registered as Irish before their children are born, for the children to be eligible

If your DH gets to register because of a grandparent then you have to be registered at the time of your DC's birth to pass it on. There are still some family rights to travel abroad though if you're with an EU family member, I think this extends to kids up to the age of 20 and then other people in your "household", which I'm a bit unclear about - guessing adult kids living away don't count. Probably not that adult kids would want to live abroad with you anyway!

Why is it 'annoying'? Given that the huge surge in applications from British people for Irish passports by descent is in large part due to Brexit, which was voted in by people who wanted to 'take control of our borders', it's ironic that many of those people then get cross that their application for an Irish passport isn't quick and easy, or able to be extended to their children.

I'm not saying this is the case with you, obviously, OP, but I've lost count of the number of times I've met someone who is open about having voted for Brexit on the grounds of immigration control, who in the next breath congratulates themselves on getting an Irish passport. (There's also a big overlap with people who have never had the slightest interest in or knowledge of Ireland before it suited them to get a passport -- I've had to explain to two separate people that NI and Ireland are in fact two different political jurisdictions.)

That’s interesting, they’ve been taking the mickey out of me, saying that they will breeze through EU passport control while I’m in a long queue.

Also DH was begging that he could get the DC Irish passports so that they had the option to work in the EU.

*bragging

@DustyLee123

It depends on 'how' your DH is eligible for Irish citizenship though. The first replies were specific to someone who was eligible for Irish citizenship because they had an Irish grandparent. In that case they're eligible to apply themselves, but any already born children aren't.

You don't say if your DH has an Irish parent or grandparent? If his parent was born in Ireland then he's automatically a citizen I think. (Note the rules are different for those born after 2005). If his parent is an Irish citizen at all your children are eligible. If the link is through his grandoarent it's different.

I want this. Dh's dad was Irish and Dh got his Irish passport 6 or 8 years ago. I want to get ds's. But apparently its complicated and the price has increased to £150?

It's the foreign birth register that's most expensive, I paid €276 2 1/2 years ago. Can't remember what the passport was, but it wasn't as much as that.

Can you tell me simply (cause I've read the page again and my menopausal brain can't process) what paperwork do I need from my mum? She's Irish, I'm not registered but DD would like her Irish passport
Does she need??

1. Grandmothers birth cert
2. Grandmothers wedding cert
3. My birth cert
4. Her birth cert

Do they have to be original copies? Im worried about sending them all together. Any advice gratefully appreciated

I agree with @DramatisPersonae it's not annoying, it's a reasonable line

Any British person can live in ireland, work, claim benefits, access services, vote, there are no issues for British people. So the DFA should imo limit the number of people getting an Irish passport just so that they can live in Spain for example.

An, he had a parent born in Ireland

Why?
We didn't all vote for Brexit.

All nationalities have these rules.

For the UK, if you are British, born to British parents but born abroad, your child won't be British.

Maybe just be glad you're getting a passport from a place you have no connection?

Well you can hardly expect the Irish Dept of Foreign Affairs to consider that. Ah, these British children of descendants of Irish people didn't vote for Brexit so they ought to be able to obtain an Irish passport. Why would that be a consideration?

As a British person you can come to Ireland, live here, work here, same as an Irish person. That is because of the Common Travel Area agreement between Ireland and the Uk. Does Ireland owe the great grandchildren of its emigrants an Irish passport so that they can live in France/Spain?

Exactly. But looks like old habits of not regarding Irelsnd as a sovereign country which sets its own very reasonable rules and processes die hard. Ireland is not some outpost of the UK to be used at will or at no cost to people whose main motivation is to get access to the rest of the European Union..

You would actually quibble at spending 150 on this? I literally cannot wrap my head around this. Would you expect me as an Irish taxpayer to fund this fully then?

I had a Welsh grandmother and applied for a British passport when I lived in the UK. I didn't get one, and i was living in England at the time, and had been for 12 years. I had children with UK passports at the time. I wanted to travel to America all of us with the same passport. I didn't qualify.

So, on reflection I think Irelands rules are lax enough.