Coronavirus in ROI/NI part 2

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Following on from the other thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/craicnet/3834552-Coronavirus-in-Ireland-N-Ireland?pg=40&order=

I know it was introduced and processed very quickly, but I agree that the tax and other rules need to be clarified. It sounds too good to be true, at the same time it is needed.

I think the tax issues only apply to the wage subsidy scheme rather than the €350 corona payment scheme

www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/q-a-making-sense-of-the-covid-19-temporary-wage-subsidy-1.4231708?mode=amp

If you have to pay back social welfare they usually let you pay back €5 per week if you ask

My local TD shared yesterday that both the 350 payment and the wage subsidy scheme are taxable.

For my dp, he is on the wage subsidy scheme. This is paid to him by his employer each week along with a little top up so is being taxed there and then by the payroll team, as his usual wages would be. If this is the way others are being paid the wage subsidy scheme, then the amounts hitting peoples bank accounts will be after tax has been paid.

For the 350 payment, a large number of people shouldn't be affected by it being taxable.
Eg if you usually earn 200 per week when working:
Gross pay for the year 10,400

Tax @ 20% 2080
Tax credits 3300
Tax due Nil

So an increase in payment from their normal wage of 200 to 350 for 6 weeks would have this effect:
Gross pay for the year 11,300
Tax @ 20% 2,260
Tax credits 3,300
Tax due Nil

I dont think it will amount to large tax bill's/ or any tax bill for most. it had also been agreed that this would be reviewed after the year end, and next years tax credits can be reduced by the amount so the under payment would be collected over 52 weeks.

Just to add, the TD didn't state that any overpayments (due to receiving more from SW than your normal wage) would have to be repaid. I actually thought they said the opposite a few weeks ago - as it was an emergency payment and had to be paid quickly, they paid out the 350 without means testing and would not be re collected. I dont think SW have the capacity to go back checking through all the payments to see if people were over/under paid.
Whereas with the tax, revenue always check for under/overpayments so its just part of their normal duties to include this as a taxable payment.

@Dk20 The way your husband is getting his is the way I am getting mine, through the payroll so they seem to be taxing it.
That's reassuring to read.
Raining here today, I left my almost dry stuff on the line lastnight thinking it wouldn't rain and they'd be fully dry this morning. Should've known better.

Just seen the revised graph taking the dates into account and we’ve peaked. Hope the trend continues. Brilliant to see.

@barbararara that's great, where did you see it?

graph

I saw the graph today too, it would be amazing if it's true that the peak has passed.

What would be a total miracle would be the Irish Times article on the study in California which suggests that cases are 50 to 85% higher than were thought!

Dr Holohan was very calm and reassuring on the late late

Wasn't the poem "My Sister Is Not A Statistic" read out on the Late Late, accompanied by images so moving and powerful.
I first heard the lady speak of her wonderful sister and read her poem on Joe Duffy.

Schools could reopen one day a week before the Summer apparently, I dont see that happening but you never know I suppose.
I wouldnt mind working one day a week at all, I'd prefer more than one day a week but it's better than nothing I suppose.

How would that work Iblinkedandiamold ?
Different classes on different days ?
Or all in together on the one day ?

I have no idea. It might just be for leaving certs maybe. It probably wont happen anyway, they are just kicking around ideas I'd say. They also said schools, not childcare facilities.

They also might lift the 2k rule which means I might be able to go see the bluebells in the forest nearby but more than 2k away. I used to take that for granted you know.

What's the point in one day a week? Unless it's a fifth of each class on each day (and teachers every day). It's bonkers; leave it until September, except possibly getting LC students in for a few grind type, get used to writing using a pen, sort of classes.

I dont know @NewAccountForCorona, it's all just speculating at the moment, we wont know anything for sure until the new announcement is made. If they do open I would say it will only be for L.C students to get them ready for exams.
Basically though we wont know for sure until May.

I would like to see the 2 k rule lifted; I want to visit my mum and sit across the garden from her (and dig up some plants from her garden). They need their grass cut too; if my dad does it he's likely to have a heart attack.

I would too, I'd like to see my son, try and sort things out, although I'd say that would still be too far to go. I'd be happy to go and see the bluebells.

I’m up north, so excuse my ignorance but I have a question about the 2k rule.

Are y’all mapping out routes from your house to figure out exactly how far you’re allowed to walk? I have some very close friends in Dublin but they live right on the Phoenix Park so can walk there without worrying about the distance.

I think if we had such a rule up here I would be on mapmyrun working out every single route I could take that would keep me within the 2k limit.

I think for primary schools they would be open 5 days but with one fifth of each class in each day.
For secondary schools it would make more sense to have LC students in each day but split in to smaller groups.

For pupils who have resource teaching they might be able to go in more often because they have 1 to 1 time anyway.

@LightACandleHoney there was an app/website that showed where you could go within the 2k. I cant remember what it was called, I got a link through WhatsApp and it was all over Facebook too.

blinked, hang in there. My son hated me for ten years; we are now back talking and he even (reluctantly) admitted I wasn't a shit mother, and he now recognises that I did what I thought was best at the time.

I found that short but frequent unemotional messages were best. I never ask any questions, never criticise anything, never get too effusive or enthusiastic, and gradually he is becoming more communicative. True, sometimes I don't hear from him for a month or more, and he definitely won't do any sort of video chat, but I feel a lot better about it than I did a couple of years ago. Baby steps and all that!