What is going on with food prices??

[londongirl12]

A 500g packet of mince in Aldi is now over £5!! What on earth is going on???

Only using 9 out of 241 studies identified is fairly typical of systemic reviews as you apply pre-determined criteria to the papers. In this case papers were excluded for not looking at the relationship between meat consumption and cognition or unclear experimental design. There very limited details of the studies included though. But the biggest flaw in terms of support PPs argument for eating half a chicken at a sitting vs 100g of chicken is this study principally looked at meat vs no-meat diets not a decent amount of meat vs a lot more meat.

A quick google is telling me herbs, spices, lemon juice, salt, pepper. Can’t see anything I wouldn’t add to my own chicken dishes at home 🤷‍♀️

@Ubertomusic happy to analyse any more "research" you have found on the matter babe :)

Current scientific consensus is clear less meat in our diets is better for us and the planet.

I've been vegetarian since I was 5 - I am a normal healthy adult - see how anecdotes mean fuck all!

I also don't believe for one second you are a neuroscientist or you wouldn't have sent that absolute joke of an article in as "proof" of your woowoo beliefs.

I’d love (genuinely) advice on what you do to set this up if your only windows with a sill are at back of house and badly lit and you have issues with neighbourhood cats outdoors.

I’d love to do a bit of salad, herbs, broccoli, cauliflower, potatoes and anything super easy. We have a 1 x 2m bed in the garden and could do some tubs on the patio easily enough. I am short of time but could probably spare a couple of hours in the week and a couple each weekend.

Someone who knows what they are doing please suggest what would be a good & simple way to start?

Agree. But there is no point in compiling an executive brief of all available research for an internet thread.

I just find the current brainwashing dangerous for children.

Agree, learning about it is very very easy, esp with google at people's fingertips.

I have a friend whose daughter has PKU. She is otherwise a healthy growing girl. Diet is a nightmare as it is so restricted but she eats just 4g of protein a day and that is sufficient for her growth. That is less protein than in a couple of slices of normal bread.

Oh I see, you're ideological.

It's fine, £200p/h and I'll do this for you.

The chicken itself 🤦‍♀️

Surely going to Nando's is a treat (if that floats your boat), so what I eat in a restaurant is certainly not how I eat at home.

Interesting. I haven’t eaten meat for 40 years and work as an academic. My son has never eaten meat and has a Cambridge First. Happy to be outliers in this study.

It's really odd all these people claiming we need meat to stay healthy.

Been veggie all my life. So has my family. All healthy and slim. Millions of veggie or low meat cultures in the world. Most far healthier than the British.

None of us are anaemic because we know how to get iron from veggies, eggs and lentils. Of course most people in the UK dont want to eat this way. That's fine. But please don't claim children need meat.
Cognitive ability? Please? My entire Indian vegetarian culture chock a block with highly educated doctors, engineers and lawyers. Nearly every Silicon Valley CEO is veggie!

It's not about protein per se though, you can get protein from lentils etc. It's more about some amino acids.

I always worry someone thinks we are shoplifting when DH uses scan and shop in M&S 🤣. You scan the items and pay on your phone so it isn't obvious to a casual onlooker that you've already paid as you merrily stroll out of the shop without going to the tills.

@Ubertomusic no babe - you just know the evidence isn't out there to support your bs so you are going to pretend you are vastly above providing evidence for you claims - and as a "real scientist" you would obviously know the onus is on the person who makes the claim to provide the evidence...

I'm not "ideologically vegetarian" - I just think meat is gross so I stopped eating it :)

I will go with overarching scientific consensus over the ramblings of an internet "scientist" who refuses to provide decent proof.

Green brainwashing? Gets a grip.

It’s amazing how many people manage to be fit and healthy and long lived in a veggie diet. meat isn’t required or essential, although some meat can be part of an environmentally aware and caring diet. Weight deficiency isn’t exactly a uk problem

I’m a physicist by the way so I think that counts as scientific and able to analyse data. I think physics trumps neuroscience because we have a broader viewpoint of whole systems as well as the ability to look at the tiny detail - neuroscience is really just a branch of physics

The meat industry likes to fund studies to ‘show’ that vegetarians are malnourished.

Getting all 9 essential amino acids from a variety of non-meat sources is very easy.

As a PP said, anecdotes are f*ck all. Or does it not apply to anecdotes supporting the vegetarian ideas? 😁

East Asians are often vegetarian or vegan, plenty of them are in academia obviously, there is nothing new in this.

Using Nandos as a guide for healthy eating is bizarre

That too! Just pointing out that eating half a chicken at Nandos isn't some sign of rampant greed because they're actually quite small chickens.

If consuming kilos of plants is easy for you, then yes.

With all due respect, you are doing something wrong if it's costing you that much. Make your own compost. Save seeds each year. Don't buy plug plants.

@SoggyArse some people genuinely don’t have the space to do this…making compost etc. and others have neither the space or time! For me it’s the time! I’m not complaining about food prices so I don’t feel the need but I literally don’t have the time in my week to grow a full garden! Nor do I have the space for a greenhouse etc.

I hope it's no secret for you that every single study is funded by some interested bodies?