What is going on with food prices??

[londongirl12]

A 500g packet of mince in Aldi is now over £5!! What on earth is going on???

So £200ph are not forthcoming then? (sigh) Such a shame, have to work.

Your language and aggression are doing a vegetarian idea a disservice btw.

You are talking bollocks.

A typical portion of grain + legume has around 10g of protein and all the essential amino acids.

You’re making specious arguments - but I think what I would say is “if you’re able perhaps consider an allotment” ?

But that’s just me. Not in the habit of telling strangers what to do.

I'm loving how tetchy we've all got about food prices 🤣

Also allotments, unlike PP’s garden, require travel time and expense to reach. My closest are a twenty minute drive away or an hour and a half by bus,

🤷‍♀️ https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1155/2018/1675369

Surely the research was also funded by meat industry.

I’ve started making my own bread now. No kneading, very easy and very cheap. Obviously not on a work day though as, though labour light, the proving takes a good part of the day.

Perhaps because I grew up in the 60's/70's when meat was very expensive - chicken extremely expensive, so most of the plate was vegetables with just one or two slices of meat - beef cut so wafer thin that you could read a book through it . So that's the serving sizes Im used to. A half a chicken ( nearly ) per person to me , is excessive

My great aunt Pat would take the left over bit of beef from Sunday dinner - and Im talking what most people would call a generous slice , put it through the mincer and would make TWO ( seriously Im not joking ) plate pies for the dinner on the Monday - more pastry and gravy then meat, but it filled hungry tums and she made the most beautiful pastry

Back then Dad turned half the garden over to veg , and had a greenhouse Courgettes weren't a thing back then, marrows - ruddy marrows ( I hated them ) were the veg of the summer along with tomatoes and cucumbers. We had cauliflowers and cabbages, carrots and parsnips and sprouts in the winter months

Why are you being wilfully ignorant? Veggies dont eat kilos of kale. They eat things like tofu and tempeh which are high protein (all 9 amino acids) and nutrient dense. It's not rocket science - east Asian cultures have been living like this for centuries.

Let's look at lentils for example, per 100g

https://tools.myfooddata.com/protein-calculator/172421/100g/1/1

Methionine - 11% of RDI so you would have to eat 1kg of lentil per day to have a healthy intake.

Who's talking bollocks 🤷‍♀️

It wasn't, but diabetes usually arises because Indians eat too many carbs: rice and wheat in particular. Cut that down as we have, and it can be a very healthy diet. 5 chappatis at every meal: diabetes. 2 chappatis a day with daal and veg: fine.

Just as a Western diet can be healthy if you don't overdo the meat. I can drag out tons of studies to show growing rates of cancer in the West because of the over reliance on UPF. Again: meat 3 times a day: cancer. Meat once a day: fine.

Does that make sense?

All while the supermarkets make millions (and even billions in some cases) in profit. There is some blame for the likes of Aldi and Tesco who claim to be trying to help….

Tbh, protein isn't a problem for most people, unless you're building really serious muscle. People are much more likely to be lacking iron and vitamins.

I wouldn’t notice on a roast if you slice it fairly thin
add potatoes, as many types of veg as you can, stuffing, some big Yorkshires, gravy
apple crumble and custard after

but the meat isn’t a main part of a meal for me, I love the side bits

But that's not how real people eat, is it? You have a variety of nutrient rich meals throughout the day. Typical day for me might be scrambled tofu on wholemeal toast for breakfast, nuts for snack, 5 bean chilli for lunch, lentil curry with rice for dinner, soy yoghurt for dessert. Protein, fibre, vits and minerals. Variety is key when it comes to nutrition.

I also cook this way and can make a chicken, boned at home, last for three meals (2 people). If you get a 3.50 chicken in Lidl then each protein portion is just over 50 pence. Deboning a chicken is not my favourite pastime but ...

Well yes. I can. I'd rather not obviously but £14 is two bottles of wine or two jars of coffee. And oil lasts a lot longer than either of those in our household!

For the love of god why is it so many MN participants are unable to exchange in a difference of opinion without becoming offensive to those who don’t agree with them, not be able to accept that not everyone feels like you, point blank refuse to even listen to a reasonable counter view.

Im going to assume we’re all grown adults? If so perhaps, you know- GROW UP!

Walmart don't own Asda anymore it is owned by the Issa brothers, one of whom has lost all interest apparently, I know a few people who work at our local Asda and all of them say the same thing that as a company Asda are really struggling, real staff problems (lack of staff) dirty shops, price increases which is across the board with all supermarkets but Asda used to pride itself on it's prices.

Why is it that if someone calls out Tommy Robinson then automatically they must be some militant far left extremist?

… local waiting list for us is about 6 years 🥲

UPF and meat in general are not equivalent surely? And hardly anyone eats meat three times a day, full English is not a norm these days I think? No need to muddle the subjects too much.

What is being aggressively promoted now is not stopping eating meat three times a day, but stopping it completely because it's bad for the planet.

Why?

The price rises are shocking though. I merrily thought we were doing OK as when I first went on maternity leave (in 2017) we cut right back on our food spending to live on a reduced income and never really changed our habits once I returned to work.

We've just been doing all of the usual tricks. I will always pad mince dishes out with lentils, beans or oats so it goes twice as far, we eat mainly vegetarian meals, bulk meat dishes out with vegetables and we have at least two nights a week where we have very cheap dinners.... usually jacket potatoes, soup or egg on toast.

But it hasn't helped protect us from the price rises and certainly this year I've become increasingly shocked at the cost of our supermarket shop. It really is crazy now.

We do grow some of our own fruit and vegetables but more as a hobby than a cost saving measure. With the weather the way it is though it can be really unreliable. I am normally overrun with courgettes. I still have sliced courgette in the freezer from last summer. But this year with such a dry spring and summer we barely got any. Potatoes and tomatoes were OK but rhubarb wasn't as good as usual either. I still think it can be worth doing, but not if you expect it to save you money.

For the PP that asked, I stuck a couple of rhubarb plants in the flower bed years ago. They take 2 years before you can pick them but then should last for decades. You can grow potatoes really easily in tubs or supermarket bags for life on the patio. Tomatoes are normally simple, as are things like dwarf french beans (again in pots.) It is a nice thing to do with the children, I like sending DDs out to the garden to pick some beans to have with dinner. But it doesn't mean that we're saving any more money on our food shop.

People always merrily say "get an allotment." I've been on the waiting list for an allotment in our area for 4 years and am only halfway up the list!

Yeah it's £3.50 in Tesco too (for 500g)