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I agree with the benefit cuts for promoting

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Canaryhead · 21/03/2025 14:58

I am on disability and universal credit and I don’t work (which will change when I get the support to some part time work, and I have been in contact with a disability charity). I get points for a physical disability and a cognitive disability. I do have severe mental health issues which I am working on but I don’t claim for it.
So I can see that currently you can score 2 points across a number of categories for needing prompting. And I can see how that relates to mental health, and if you score enough you would then get the full amount of the care component, with the full mobility component if you say you need to have someone with you for your mental health condition (I agree they need someone with them but they shouldn’t be able to use that money to pay for a mobility car in my opinion if they aren’t physically or cognitively disabled) For neurodivergence you would get more than two points as it comes with executive functioning difficulties that have an impact for the majority of the time, harm to yourself and others, so you could argue you're needing supervision and things take longer like for example in processing and tiredness.
if a family and their children are claiming full pip and DLA and associated benefits because they need prompting to do tasks (sorry if I’ve got this wrong and it’s not possible) and are getting thousands for it all combined then I agree that’s so wrong and needs to stop. And I could also see how that allows the family to spend that money on lots of nice things.
people with more expensive disabilities are getting the same rates with more significant costs. I have had to make do with two pairs of leggings from the factory shop that have split apart at the seams and can’t be repaired because of the quality, and I have just been gifted money to buy better quality leggings.
If I am wrong about how I feel towards those that are on full pip for needing prompting, I wouldn’t mind being corrected

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LadyKenya · 23/03/2025 16:35

Nightjar33 · 23/03/2025 16:31

I do know she was working cash in hand.
the info they asked for was NI number.
do you know that info for other people!

No, I can't say that I do. Why would they expect you to know that either? Was their name, address, and clothes size not enough for them?🙄

dialfor · 23/03/2025 16:37

Nightjar33 · 23/03/2025 16:31

I do know she was working cash in hand.
the info they asked for was NI number.
do you know that info for other people!

Why does that make a PIP claim fraudulent though?

dialfor · 23/03/2025 16:37

Nightjar33 · 23/03/2025 16:34

this person claimed she couldn’t work!

That doesn’t form part of the PIP assessment so who did she claim that to?

Canaryhead · 23/03/2025 16:44

Knickknacketty · 23/03/2025 11:53

But not psychosis for example? Random. I think you think you are very factual and reasonable but in fact your thinking is not black and white and logical at all.

I didn’t say anything about psychosis but yes I think that should get benefits too

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Nightjar33 · 23/03/2025 16:44

dialfor · 23/03/2025 16:37

That doesn’t form part of the PIP assessment so who did she claim that to?

She fraudulently claimed several benefits.
the thread is becoming boring now.
I'm entitled to my opinions.
so I’m end my comments.🤪

Canaryhead · 23/03/2025 16:45

Nightjar33 · 23/03/2025 16:44

She fraudulently claimed several benefits.
the thread is becoming boring now.
I'm entitled to my opinions.
so I’m end my comments.🤪

It’s shocking

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LadyKenya · 23/03/2025 16:48

Nightjar33 · 23/03/2025 16:44

She fraudulently claimed several benefits.
the thread is becoming boring now.
I'm entitled to my opinions.
so I’m end my comments.🤪

🥱

verysmellyjelly · 23/03/2025 16:52

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dialfor · 23/03/2025 17:10

Nightjar33 · 23/03/2025 16:44

She fraudulently claimed several benefits.
the thread is becoming boring now.
I'm entitled to my opinions.
so I’m end my comments.🤪

How are we supposed to know you were talking about ‘several benefits’ when the thread is regarding PIP, the whole discussion is about PIP and nobody has mentioned anything else?

The thread isn’t boring, quite the opposite, if you stick around you might learn something. Or carry on and throw your toys out of the pram and remain ignorant

Canaryhead · 23/03/2025 17:19

I don’t want this thread to involve passive aggressive responses/ inflammatory comments

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PhilippaGeorgiou · 23/03/2025 18:48

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PhilippaGeorgiou · 23/03/2025 18:49

Canaryhead · 23/03/2025 17:19

I don’t want this thread to involve passive aggressive responses/ inflammatory comments

You don't get to control what is said on a thread that you started which was wildly offensive to many people.

Canaryhead · 23/03/2025 18:50

PhilippaGeorgiou · 23/03/2025 18:49

You don't get to control what is said on a thread that you started which was wildly offensive to many people.

That’s a ridiculous argument. You can’t justify being inflammatory deliberately, just because I mistakenly (probably due to my autism) wrote a post that came across the wrong way

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PhilippaGeorgiou · 23/03/2025 18:58

Canaryhead · 23/03/2025 18:50

That’s a ridiculous argument. You can’t justify being inflammatory deliberately, just because I mistakenly (probably due to my autism) wrote a post that came across the wrong way

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It said what it said. You may not have meant to say that, but you did. So it is not ridiculous at all. Nobody is being deliberately inflammatory. And I did suggest to you that since your accidentally inflammatory post had caused such upset and offense, you asked MNHQ to delete the thread. You ignored that. So please don't tell me that you didn't understand how offensive your comments were to people because you have now agreed that they were and you understand why. But you are continuing the thread. Why? You are the OP. MNHQ will delete it if you ask. Job done. You now understand, you say, why your comments were so upsetting...

Canaryhead · 23/03/2025 19:06

PhilippaGeorgiou · 23/03/2025 18:58

It said what it said. You may not have meant to say that, but you did. So it is not ridiculous at all. Nobody is being deliberately inflammatory. And I did suggest to you that since your accidentally inflammatory post had caused such upset and offense, you asked MNHQ to delete the thread. You ignored that. So please don't tell me that you didn't understand how offensive your comments were to people because you have now agreed that they were and you understand why. But you are continuing the thread. Why? You are the OP. MNHQ will delete it if you ask. Job done. You now understand, you say, why your comments were so upsetting...

MNHQ don’t delete threads that could be informative. I also don’t want the thread to be removed. The thread remaining is no reflection of how I feel about offending someone, I still feel sorry for the way I came across which I didn’t intend as what I said was taken the wrong way.
I know you’re angry, I can feel it in your comments. But you need to control it and stop trying to incite fights with others

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PhilippaGeorgiou · 23/03/2025 21:11

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PhilippaGeorgiou · 23/03/2025 21:15

I am reporting this whole thread again - for the second time. It is clear that some posters here see every single comment they disagree with as a personal attack whilkst attacking everyone else. It is doing no favours to anyone.

LadyKenya · 23/03/2025 21:16

This thread should have been pulled from when it first started imo.

Locutus2000 · 24/03/2025 16:54

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WeylandYutani · 24/03/2025 21:52

OP, I am confused. You posted in a different part of this site about how worried you were about the cuts and being made to work. Yet here you are agreeing with the proposals.

Canaryhead · 24/03/2025 21:56

WeylandYutani · 24/03/2025 21:52

OP, I am confused. You posted in a different part of this site about how worried you were about the cuts and being made to work. Yet here you are agreeing with the proposals.

I only agreed with the removing of the prompting criteria which has been pointed out isn’t happening anyway. I also changed my mind about my opinion

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WeylandYutani · 24/03/2025 21:58

Canaryhead · 24/03/2025 21:56

I only agreed with the removing of the prompting criteria which has been pointed out isn’t happening anyway. I also changed my mind about my opinion

Ah ok. Sorry if I offended you. It is a worrying time right now. But the proposals are a green paper. Just floating ideas at this point and there is so much push back that I don't think the vast majority of it will happen anyway.

Normallynumb · 25/03/2025 12:16

More details, including the “ impact statement” which they hadn’t even done before proposing these changes announced tomorrow at 12.30