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please critic my budget and give ideas, what would you do??

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Pinkfemme1 · 12/07/2024 13:42

I'd love some advice about my situation.
I'm a single mum with 2 school age kids, who I have full time
My current yearly salary is 50k, I get child benefit and some hit and miss child maintenance of around £150 a month (he is self-employed, it's impossible to challenge that)
After taxes and pension contributions I have around £3100 a month
£140 k left to pay on mortgage, house worth around £300k, so around £160k in equity. Where I live (Leeds) I could in theory get a house for that price (160k), but it would mean moving to a much less desirable area, smaller house, away from support network and kids' school.
However I currently pay almost £900 in mortgage a month and then
council tax £120
electricity and gas £230
phone £17
car inc £65
petrol £100
food £300-400
cat food, vet etc. £100
kids afterschool activities £95
water £50
tv licence £14
life insurance £73
kids ISA £50
internet £26
If I ever want to go out by myself, I have to include babysitting costs. Recently just went to a friend for tea, that cost me £35 (babysitting plus a bottle of prosecco), just to go to play badmintno is around £25 (babysitting plus the fee)..
and then there are other costs like repairs, car tax, professional membership fee, other things that seem to come up a lot. Looking at my statements it's some cosmetics, some days out with kids, some babysitting fees, and then repairs mostly.
I never seem to have any money left at the end of the month, I literary have around £200 in savings, can't afford to take kids on holidays or anything, except for camping.
I've also started a side hustle and had to buy a few things for that before it makes money, but this just means more work. my kids want my attention, but i have little energy left for anything.

I'm a bit burnt out with it all and not sure what's best to do. Any advice would be welcome!!

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Pinkfemme1 · 12/07/2024 17:28

Bjorkdidit · 12/07/2024 17:21

ill look at the passes, but my kids are fans of the trampoline parks, aqua parks, skate parks, ice skating, movies etc so it’s hard to get them to get excited about stately homes

The NT properties etc are good for running around outside, sometimes have bike tracks (eg Nostell Priory) climbing equipment etc. No need to actually go in any houses for it to be worthwhile.

I know you can get cinema passes that make regular trips cheaper, do any of the other places have memberships? Look on the websites, social media or Groupon to see if it's possible to do anything cheaper than full price.

i think I need to stop getting as many gifts for people

Definitely stop buying gifts for anyone other than your DC and use the money saved to pay for babysitting/dates/nights out with friends.

The gifts thing is hard at times, people give me gifts for different favours and then I do in return. There are teacher gifts now for all the school and not school teachers scouts, music teachers, language teachers, coaches. My ex is not interested in any of this. Everyone else seems to be giving gifts and money to everyone. I don’t want to feel like the poor single mum one, that people need to feel pity for 😢

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Pinkfemme1 · 12/07/2024 17:30

Floralnomad · 12/07/2024 17:26

I live in the south east and we are well insulated so that may help . Don’t move , a few more years and the children will be old enough to be doing their own thing more and you will get your evenings back . If you have a garden you could always do a weekend barbecue with friends but ask people to bring a pudding / salad / side / bottle as a way of socialising .

Yeah, I’m not great at asking people to bring stuff, usually overcompensating by spending too much. People then cancel at times and I think wow I’ve just spent a £100 I don’t have and they don’t even come 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

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MrsBobtonTrent · 12/07/2024 17:31

Pinkfemme1 · 12/07/2024 17:16

I’m not even paying any arrears, I want to know how do people manage not too pay as much. I think maybe it’s the size of the house and the tumble dryer/ dishwasher etc. Unless someone is stilling out electricity lol
thank you, I wish there was a grandma I could ask, but there isn’t.
i think I need to stop getting as many gifts for people

Definitely cut out the gifts. Small token gifts only. Make it clear in advance. Anyone who is only friends with you because of gifts needs to buzz off.

Gas/electric - there are loads of useful threads here and resources elsewhere to get a grip on energy usage. A good start is to unplug everything until the meter stops going round. Then plug in the essentials (fridge/freezer) and gradually the rest of it as necessary. Anything that gets hot or moves will devour electric. Make sure you don’t have an immersion left on (or a random switch in the back of a cupboard that you don’t really know what it does). If the meter is still climbing with everything off, check again. We’ve had electric stolen off us before (once deliberately and once by a plug socket next door being on our loop from a botched house conversion into flats). But it’s more likely to be an immersion heater or something.

But even if you halve your energy use, it’s not going to make an overwhelming difference. I would focus on the £860 excess and reducing childcare/babysitting costs and general expenses.

parietal · 12/07/2024 17:38

Teachers and coaches etc don't need gifts. A nice card is much better.

Pinkfemme1 · 12/07/2024 17:38

MrsBobtonTrent · 12/07/2024 17:31

Definitely cut out the gifts. Small token gifts only. Make it clear in advance. Anyone who is only friends with you because of gifts needs to buzz off.

Gas/electric - there are loads of useful threads here and resources elsewhere to get a grip on energy usage. A good start is to unplug everything until the meter stops going round. Then plug in the essentials (fridge/freezer) and gradually the rest of it as necessary. Anything that gets hot or moves will devour electric. Make sure you don’t have an immersion left on (or a random switch in the back of a cupboard that you don’t really know what it does). If the meter is still climbing with everything off, check again. We’ve had electric stolen off us before (once deliberately and once by a plug socket next door being on our loop from a botched house conversion into flats). But it’s more likely to be an immersion heater or something.

But even if you halve your energy use, it’s not going to make an overwhelming difference. I would focus on the £860 excess and reducing childcare/babysitting costs and general expenses.

That’s really good advice. I use air purifiers, would they take a lot of electricity?

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MrsBobtonTrent · 12/07/2024 17:44

parietal · 12/07/2024 17:38

Teachers and coaches etc don't need gifts. A nice card is much better.

This. Buy/make a card. If you are worried about appearances, no one will know whether there is a fifty pound note in the envelope. And how gauche would the recipient be if they started bad mouthing you for only giving a card.

I used to work in schools nearly 20 years ago and I still haven’t bought a mug since.

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 12/07/2024 17:46

Is there a good friend in the same boat that you could maybe swap an evening a month with for babysitting?

WiseMenSayNothing · 12/07/2024 17:48

I think maybe it’s the size of the house and the tumble dryer/ dishwasher etc.

3 bed detached. 3 adults -dishwasher on every day but only on eco setting.
Oven on loads as I bake quite a bit and cook from scratch.
Washer on sometimes 2/3 times a day, at least one load most days, most washes on at 30 degrees. I refuse to use the TD, I hang on racks & radiator racks and I occasionally run the dehumidifier.
House is freezing, suspended floors, but we wear think socks, sit under blankets/throws, have an extra duvet on etc in winter. I don’t have the heating above 18 degrees, down to 15 at night. My Direct debit is £155 per month for gas & electricity all year round and I went into last winter £800 in credit so I didn’t have my DD increase.

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 12/07/2024 17:50

And could you look at a Merlin annual pass? If there are Merlin attractions near you. It's roughly £30 a month for 3 for you which I appreciate isn't cheap but if you managed to go twice or three times a month to Alton Towers, Legoland, Chessington, Thorpe Park, Cadbury World, the Sea Life centre or whatever is close by you'd save on entry to the other stuff so in the long run might be cheaper.

MrsBobtonTrent · 12/07/2024 17:52

Pinkfemme1 · 12/07/2024 17:38

That’s really good advice. I use air purifiers, would they take a lot of electricity?

I don’t know. We have two dehumidifiers and one uses a lot more electric than the other. The rubbish one gets quite warm when (rarely!) in use. Google your model to find the energy usage.

Drizzlethru · 12/07/2024 17:52

Tricky, only thing I can suggest is that when your cat is no longer to not get another cat due to costs. Not that helpful but cat costs more. Month than you spend on your children’s activities,

Pausing ISA savings might be an option for childre. We don’t save for children as rather they have what they need now and can’t afford now and to give hem a lump sum when older sadly.

can you find cheaper life insurance?

Pinkfemme1 · 12/07/2024 17:53

MrsBobtonTrent · 12/07/2024 17:44

This. Buy/make a card. If you are worried about appearances, no one will know whether there is a fifty pound note in the envelope. And how gauche would the recipient be if they started bad mouthing you for only giving a card.

I used to work in schools nearly 20 years ago and I still haven’t bought a mug since.

Good points!!

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Pinkfemme1 · 12/07/2024 17:55

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 12/07/2024 17:46

Is there a good friend in the same boat that you could maybe swap an evening a month with for babysitting?

I have friends who have them for sleepovers when needed, which is really good, also my babysitter is only £6 an hr as it’s a friend, but it still all adds up. I need to probably try and tap in to the sleepovers exchanges more

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Inspirationfailure · 12/07/2024 17:55

Cut out the presents and don’t waste money on fancy meals. You can easily stretch out something like spag bol to feed another person or two with lots more pasta, a handful of lentils, a bit of grated veg - probably less than £1; certainly not £100.
Your electricity looks super high, even looking at that octopus screenshot.

Marmite27 · 12/07/2024 17:56

Bjorkdidit · 12/07/2024 15:21

Comments below

However I currently pay almost £900 in mortgage a month Has this increased for the new higher rates or is this something else you need to cope with?

council tax £120 - I assume that this is with single person discount?

electricity and gas £230 - you could possibly reduce this by being careful, depending on the size of your house

phone £17 - you could half this

car inc £65 - make sure you shop around
petrol £100
food £300-400 - are you sure this is what you spend? Is this all food, eg takeaways, lunches, coffees etc

cat food, vet etc. £100 - sounds like a lot, how many cats?

kids afterschool activities £95

water £50 - metered or rates? Might it be cheaper on a meter?

tv licence £14 - do you actually need this? If you don't watch live TV or BBC iplayer, you don't need it.

life insurance £73 - this sounds like quite a lot, but I assume that it's to provide for DC if something happens to you.

kids ISA £50 - might have to reduce this, if things are really tight

internet £26 - probably can't reduce this by much

The above comes to around £2240, which leaves nearly £900 unaccounted for. I know you say what some of this goes on, but definitely worth going through all your accounts to look if there's any areas where spending can be reduced.

For days out, can you get annual passes or memberships on rotation, eg National Trust one year, English Heritage the next, depending on what's available nearby so you can have days out without huge cost (obviously take a picnic, food at attractions is usually expensive, poor quality and at the end of a long queue, so worth avoiding for more than financial reasons).

Leeds has a dearth of close NT properties.

The closest are:
Nostell Priory
Fountains Abbey
Wentbridge Castle Gardens
Brimham Rocks

OP if none of these are close or appeal to you, don’t pay £8.60 a month for NT membership!

Puffinfoot · 12/07/2024 17:59

Yes, the thing that stood out for me was the gas and electricity. I have a large four bed detached house and 2 adult sons, one of whom loves a really long shower and the other who has a very powerful gaming computer on (almost) 24/7, but pay a lot less than that.

Pinkfemme1 · 12/07/2024 17:59

WiseMenSayNothing · 12/07/2024 17:48

I think maybe it’s the size of the house and the tumble dryer/ dishwasher etc.

3 bed detached. 3 adults -dishwasher on every day but only on eco setting.
Oven on loads as I bake quite a bit and cook from scratch.
Washer on sometimes 2/3 times a day, at least one load most days, most washes on at 30 degrees. I refuse to use the TD, I hang on racks & radiator racks and I occasionally run the dehumidifier.
House is freezing, suspended floors, but we wear think socks, sit under blankets/throws, have an extra duvet on etc in winter. I don’t have the heating above 18 degrees, down to 15 at night. My Direct debit is £155 per month for gas & electricity all year round and I went into last winter £800 in credit so I didn’t have my DD increase.

It’s quite a lot of effort, for sitting in a freezing house. It’s depressing we have to be in these situations

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Pinkfemme1 · 12/07/2024 18:00

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 12/07/2024 17:50

And could you look at a Merlin annual pass? If there are Merlin attractions near you. It's roughly £30 a month for 3 for you which I appreciate isn't cheap but if you managed to go twice or three times a month to Alton Towers, Legoland, Chessington, Thorpe Park, Cadbury World, the Sea Life centre or whatever is close by you'd save on entry to the other stuff so in the long run might be cheaper.

I’ll have a look at that

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Bumbletown · 12/07/2024 18:00

Have you spoken to octopus about how much you’re paying? Is your account in credit? It looks like your direct debit is a lot higher than you’re using. They recently cut ours from £230 a month to £130 a month because we were building up so much credit. This is a 4 bed house, 3 kids, I love my tumble dryer…

Spacecrispsnack · 12/07/2024 18:00

I’d ditch the kids isas, and save that in your own name. Have some really cheap meals in your meal plan, a beans on toast night and a jacket potato night really helps the weekly budget.

And don’t give in to the kids on snacks etc. The people I know with £££ spare are the people who don’t buy stuff like that all the time, and trampoline parks etc would be a 2-3 times a year treat.

Pinkfemme1 · 12/07/2024 18:01

MrsBobtonTrent · 12/07/2024 17:52

I don’t know. We have two dehumidifiers and one uses a lot more electric than the other. The rubbish one gets quite warm when (rarely!) in use. Google your model to find the energy usage.

Thank you, I will

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Puffinfoot · 12/07/2024 18:02

Don't do the gifts, no one really wants them anyway.

I thinknwhen DC are young you have to find ways of socialising with them, you can't be paying for a babysitter on a regular basis. Also don't be afraid to ask friends. I'd do a one off evening babysitting for almost anyone.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 12/07/2024 18:02

Gas and electric is very high, for comparison mine is £88 a month (single parent with one teen dd.)

Life insurance also very high, mine is £23 a month.

£900 is a lot for your mortgage but I'm guessing this will go down if interest rates improve.

Car insurance also quite high, I pay mine annually rather than monthly as it's cheaper.

WiseMenSayNothing · 12/07/2024 18:03

It’s quite a lot of effort, for sitting in a freezing house. It’s depressing we have to be in these situations

It is. Very depressing. But I don’t earn anywhere near your salary, I’m very low band NHS, so barely above NLW, and couldn’t dream of having my heating on higher and actually being warm.

Pinkfemme1 · 12/07/2024 18:03

Spacecrispsnack · 12/07/2024 18:00

I’d ditch the kids isas, and save that in your own name. Have some really cheap meals in your meal plan, a beans on toast night and a jacket potato night really helps the weekly budget.

And don’t give in to the kids on snacks etc. The people I know with £££ spare are the people who don’t buy stuff like that all the time, and trampoline parks etc would be a 2-3 times a year treat.

Thank you!! I agree. My kids seems to think that not buying packaged crisps is child neglect. They have pocket money as well, which I didn’t add that they waste on ice lollies and Haribos mostly 🤦‍♀️

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