What welfare cuts do you think Sunak is about to announce in budget?

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It's been reported that Richi Sunak said there will be tax cuts in the budget before the election and then more after the election so people who work hard will gain more and the government will curb spending on welfare. So, what welfare cuts do you think he is planning? I wonder whether he will reduce the triple lock on pensions to a double lock. Will he make single parents with DC over 7 work more hours to get UC top up. So maybe make them work 20 or even 25 hours. Do you think the £300 CoL payments will stop, as inflation is now much lower? I'm not advocating for these cuts just curious to what they could be. Can anyone think of others they might implement? Also which tax cuts could he be thinking of introducing? Threshold going up from £12,500 to £13k or inheritance tax go up a bit?

If they cut disability benefits then there is going to be a lot of blood on their hands.
People just can’t cope with being constantly demonised because of their disabilities anymore. I have cut everything to the wire, there isn’t anything else left to cut. Not sure where the magical jobs with RAR for disabled people are going to come from??

The people hoping that benefits will be cut have presumably fallen for lies in places like the Murdoch press and from the governments policy on creating division. UK benefits are already particularly poor in comparison to similar countries (and poorer countries tbh) and have been cut to the bone. They are already leading to people dying.

If Rishi really wanted to reduce the economic cost of people being out of work he should have listened to the information he was given about us being in the middle of a mass disabling event and that this would have economic repercussions. He decided that this wasn’t worth bothering with and has gone for ignoring it while victimising the disabled. I’ve no doubt that if pressed on this he won’t remember anything the cruel twat.

Surely it wouldnt be PIP that would have a reform, it would be LCW (limited capability for work) which is about 140per month ontop of UC. I can see that being scrapped before PIP even gets looked at.

And yeah, probably inheritance tax.

The thing with the triple lock on pensions it will push more pensioner into paying tax so while it sounds like pensioners are 'getting' more then others actually more are getting less now they have to pay tax.

I personally am grateful my mum was able to keep the house my parents had after they divorced as it has allowed her to be able to buy a bungalow outright as they would be no way she would be able to afford to live if she had to pay rent. As her state pension and private pension is only around £18500.



What is the £4680 a year you are referring to please ?

People only get that £140 if they were awarded LCW prior to 2017. They don't get it for a new award of LCW now. LCWRA is worth almost an extra £400 on top of basic UC and a lot more if you can do some work as you also get a work allowance if you don't already get it for another reason like having kids on your claim. So yes they are likely to try to reduce the numbers on LCW and LCWRA on UC.

Oh well, that’s alright then.

Tried to upload the graphic showing the drop in the ocean that benefit fraud is, compared to benefits unclaimed. Both are absolutely tiny still compared to tax avoided, evaded and uncollected.

@Katypp I had no workplace pension in my jobs. Worked in childcare/nurseries. You could arrange your own private pension, but the employer did not contribute.

NC for this.
Unpopular opinion but I think the gov are right look at disability benefits and for clarity I have a DC who is awarded DLA for multiple disabilities.

I am unable to claim carers or uc due to joint earnings.

However, I see those that do and realise just how much you are entitled to a month (dla, carers, housing benefit, uc, disabled child element and then also gov grants ) - it is more than I am paid working as much as I can whilst caring for DC.

Honestly, I know who the idiot is and that's me! It pays more to claim than to work.

@Babyroobs that's what happened to me. I get lcwra and work two days a week. I also get top rate pip for both elements so equivalent to working full time. Benefits agency were really supportive with me returning to work even part time. It's been a blessing for my mental health as well as my physical.

Sickness and disability without a doubt.

I can see them making harder to get disability benefits if you could do some work even if it's not the job you once did - an acquaintance (father of a friend of my kids) hasn't work since the 90's because of a workplace injury, then he got a lifetime award - except he could work, just not on a building site, this sort of thing needs to stop.

It can add up to very large amounts but I think the government would make themselves very unpopular if they started cutting from families with disabled children.

I'm surprised he got a lifetime award. Maybe they will look at lifetime awards where a person will be assessed against the current indicators eg can they cook a simple meal, can they read, can they shower/bathe themselves etc.

They were a thing when l started work in 86.

Only open to senior management though, not a lowly scrubber like myself. This was true for the ten years k worked before having a baby. In 3 different companies.

The disabled will face the worst of the cuts. Those with with mobility issues who struggle to leave the house already face having their benefits cut by £4,680 per year. It is likely that we will see further cuts in this area

l can’t leave the house independently. What are you talking about? I’m not currently facing any benefit cut.

There's nothing they can do to win the next election so they can do the unthinkable.

There has been a lot of talk about disability benefits recently, therefore I think that they will make changes to the criteria to continue to qualify for disability benefits and introduce sanctions to those who do not comply.

However as it is likely that the Conservatives will not be in power for long, any changes could be reversed almost immediately by the next incoming government.

He obviously thinks that most who are signed off are faking it, as he said "In the last decade, that system hasn't been reformed at all and you have seen the number of people who are signed-off has tripled. Now do I think our country is three times sicker than it was a decade ago? The answer is no."

SSP is already ridiculously low and not enough to live off, plus how long can you claim it for? I didn't think that claiming disability benefits was the same as being signed off?

SSP can be claimed for 28 weeks and can be topped up from the start by Universal credit if you need help with rent etc or have kids to support.
Claiming disability benefits is nothing to do with being able to work or not. many people claim them and work full time.

I would fall off my chair with astonishment if they did anything whatsoever about the triple lock - unfortunately. The UK now well and truly a gerontocracy.

SSP is incredibly low. I know it can be topped up by UC, but that can take months to come through and anyone on minimum wage without children is un like to be eligible fir UC top up anyway.
DP nad I have both worked in low paid jobs when we really should have been off sick. In one case I was going to the toilets at work periodically to throw up. But we just could not manage on SSP.

He won't do anything other than tinker because he knows they're not in for much longer. He's just marking time now. It's not like he had some grand fucking vision of how he wanted the country to be.