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Spending October organising our spends - friendly frugaleers this way!

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ememem84 · 11/10/2018 21:01

New thread because old one is almost full. All welcome. fluffy can you be a doll and please post the helpful threads? X x

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SummerDaize · 12/10/2018 11:28

Quite thanks yes I think that's best. Back to frugality. Grin

WreckTangled · 12/10/2018 11:37

Ewww em!!

Food shop done.

£42 Aldi
£42 Tesco including £25 on an RC truck for ds for Christmas
£20 fuel.

My budget for food and fuel this week is £160 and dh will need fuel (roughly £40) so should be ok.

Meal plan:

Lasagne
5 a day tagine with couscous
Pizza
Macaroni cheese
Dahl
Jacket potatoes and spaghetti hoops
Pasta and sauce

mammynowanauntyIRL · 12/10/2018 11:41

Congratulations em on your new house Grin

ememem84 · 12/10/2018 12:25

T minus 2 hours for go to court behave yourself hand up time. Eeeeeeeek. I’ve got the fear now.

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ChristmasSeacow · 12/10/2018 12:30

Summer that does all sound good, it sounds as though your GP is engaged in a helpful way too. I’d also suggest stepping away from Dr Google and let your GP do the thinking about it all for a bit! I realise we might seem to be a bit bossy, harsh even, but we’ve mostly all been here for a while and consider ourselves friends so we say it like a friend would! Good luck.

Em shocked about the shoes. But also a little bit inspired Wink. Hope the house stuff all goes through okay and you enjoy your champagne.

Jam I’m only doing consultancy work so probably not going to be there long enough to get any nice chats going with people. And sadly the office is not in a part of London that tempts me out at lunchtime (better for the frugalling though Wink). But so far so good and I am enjoying using my brain, that’s for sure! The tube, however... Angry

I have a lotta writing to do... house is also pretty cold today. I’ve wrapped up a bit but think I might still need a blast of heating, though I try to resist during the day. I’ll have some hot soup and see.

Karaoke tonight with my lovely uni friends, unfortunately I’m losing my speaking voice so that doesn’t bode well for my power ballad-ing HmmGrin

Justanothermile · 12/10/2018 12:43

Also summer, maybe just consider the fact that you may want or even HAVE to work again at some point. Paid work, I mean, obviously being at home is work in itself. You are clearly intelligent and had an interesting and useful job. And education. It would be a shame not to get the health issues resolved and have the option at least to return.

£200 deposit for two huge Roman blinds for the bedroom, a job ticked off. I negotiated the same amount reduction in price, so happy with that.

I'm going to list my shoes on eBay from now on.

SummerDaize · 12/10/2018 13:21

Jam Yes I know exactly what you mean. Tbh I thought I'd be fixed by now. I lost four years of sleep and I've now had exactly four years of really sound sleep and recovery. I'm getting impatient to be back to normal now. I'll get on it.

Cagliostro · 12/10/2018 13:43

Aah summer I never realised you didn’t have a diagnosis. The thing with CFS is that it’s a diagnosis of exclusion, so by just assuming that’s what it is, you could be missing something that they should really be testing you for. All sorts of vitamin issues, thyroid (NOT just the basic one) lupus blah blah blah. So it is well worth writing everything down. Unfortunately women especially are often just left with chronic pain and exhaustion 🤔😡 but there are several treatable things that could be causing it if they’d just bloody look. But you have to keep on at them to look.

I know what it’s like though to find it difficult to ask for that help. I was incredibly lucky that the doctor I saw when I first had post viral fatigue was amazing. In fact he wasn’t even a doctor he was a physicians assistant. But he GOT it.

I think although quite meant seeing an OT in terms of the CFS type symptoms (I saw one at St Barts and it was really helpful especially with pacing and work issues), it may be worth asking about when you have your ADOS. My DD was referred to OT when she was diagnosed with autism, and actually I’m considering asking if such a service exists for adults. The thing with your (not quite official but I think they basically already said yes didn’t they?) ASD is that it affects functioning in all aspects of life in quite unexpected ways. And that can have a knock on effect on your energy levels and physical health too. I have mentioned this before I think, but I have read that diagnoses of things like CFS/fibromyalgia are markedly more common in autistic people. We literally cannot cope with the same things that neurotypical people can. For a simple example socialising or even a bit of small talk at the bus stop/school gate is literally physically exhausting whereas others may find it invigorating or just feel a bit “talked out”. When I was still working, if somebody I vaguely knew got on the bus and talked to me I would sometimes literally cry afterwards because that one little extra chat would just send me over the edge into overwhelm and the work shift would be harder to cope with, small talk doesn’t come naturally and the intense thought I have to put into it coupled with the anxiety of whether I said something wrong or interrupted or appeared rude is too much. Sensory issues can mean that we are over sensitive to differences in lighting, sounds etc that others may not even notice, and that state of being overly vigilant is tiring and even painful.

I have major difficulties with something called executive function, I struggle to explain exactly what that means but basically I just can’t manage daily life like other people can, I can’t keep on top of anything and even habits like brushing my hair are not and never will be habits, they all take immense thought and willpower and alarms set on my phone because if I don’t then they just don’t occur to me and even when I do I still think “in a minute” and then I DON’T and then I realise I’ve not done it for days. I am chaotic and that is exhausting in itself.

For example making dinner. It takes me an hour or more to make a basic 15 minute pasta sauce. The coordination required to heat things up at the right time so nothing burns, to cut the stuff needed to be cooked first, to be careful enough not to cut or burn myself, to remember to put peelings in the bin so I still have space, to actually put pasta on, to not put the pan at the edge of the counter and knock it off, to not walk away to ask the kids something and then forget it’s cooking at all, let alone to remember to get the kids to clear the table of stuff I’ve put down and forgotten about earlier in the day, so that it’s done before dinner is finished rather than letting the cooked food start to go cold. I never manage the last one. Honestly doesn’t matter how many times I make the same sauce (and actually I do make quite tasty food) it will always be like that. I can’t “just do it” without wearing myself out and pretty much being useless the rest of the evening. If I can remember to even get the Caglets to take the plates out after I consider it a win.

And yet taking charge of the Caglets’ education and getting work done with them feels like a walk in the park. I’m loving it, and I’m doing well at it, I think, organising their projects and ensuring their progress, it’s lovely. I can teach piano and maths really well and I am, believe it or not - because the above makes me sound like a total imbecile - quite clever, I got top exam results blah blah blah. But daily life? Running a home? Epic. Fucking. Fail.

Sorry, I’m not even entirely sure why I wrote all that to be honest and sorry for boring you all 😳 and it is absolutely not written for sympathy either. But I hope you will get something out of it summer as I wonder if you struggle with some of the same stuff I do, and that may help you understand why you are not coping as well as you “should” be. That is NOT to say you don’t need some more physical stuff ruling out though, so please do keep on at the GP, and writing an activity diary is an excellent idea.💐 Because although he said it may be anxiety it’s not necessarily “feeling anxious” and I wonder if it’s more like “finding things difficult that most people find easy”. Because that sums up pretty much my entire life and it is why I am (a) so bloody tired and (b) extremely lacking in self esteem. Although the latter was helped when I was diagnosed because she said, for an autistic person you’re actually completely normal! 😂 But anyway I thought I’d say it all, however difficult it was to write 😳 because sometimes when you grow up that way you don’t actually know that it counts as “a difficulty” because of course it is all you have ever known. When I was diagnosed with CFS the professor asked me if I ever felt anxious and I said no. It was only later that I realised I have felt anxious my entire life and that is why I didn’t know. Panic is my baseline emotion.

ANYWAY. I am also enjoying the discussion about getting shit done. I need to channel some Frugaleer power! I completely agree with quite (I think that’s who said it 😳) about working smart not hard. This is what I need to actually corner DH to have a discussion about. Things need to get more efficient round here. Definitely making progress since the move (eg bigger kitchen ➡️ more batch cooking ➡️ less buying takeaway etc) but a long way to go. Unfortunately he is a jump in and do stuff person and I am a planner, I have to be because of all the issues I listed above - and the former is great for many things (eg he moved the living room around the other day when I would’ve just left it and I am really glad it’s done ❤️!) but the latter is needed to overhaul general day to day routines etc and I really need his help to get that all set up. That will have a knock on effect to frugality and all that stuff.

SummerDaize · 12/10/2018 14:13

Thanks so much for putting all of that into words Cag. Yes I know exactly what you mean. The effort of just living is like pushing a bus up a hill sometimes, and for me a lot of that is just because my eyes can't properly process moving images. Watching telly for me is like walking on a tight rope above a 100 foot drop. What idiot was it that introduced ds to minecraft?

It's this sensory stuff that's hardest for me, and ironically, the difficulty of putting it all into words for the GP, because this stuff just isn't discussed in normal life so the words aren't there.

I think the ASD test will help, because I have tried to explain the physical symptoms to my GP but they are so unusual that he didn't believe me. I even took a popular science book in to show him, in which my actual situation was published by a scientist colleague alongside the experience of three others, and he still didn't believe me.

Maybe I should make a list of the ASD-type challenges that I have and take them to the ASD test? If the tester wrote them down in the report and confirmed that other people have had similar experiences, then it might come over better from her? She said my struggles are absolutely standard.

I'm very glad that you are here. Everything that you say always makes sense to me. Other people's advice sounds like they are saying "Well why don't you just go and do the impossible, as we have told you a dozen times before. It's not hard, just do it."

Fluffycloudland77 · 12/10/2018 14:15

That sounds easy to fix Cag, you do the meal plan and shopping & he cooks and portions it up for the freezer. Homebargains do 5 plastic tubs for 59p, if you stand them on the long edge you can fit loads in the freezer. All the funs in the planning after all. You're logistics, he's execution.

Em We had a tall freezer and it was really good. There was no problem de-frosting it like the chest ones and small kids cant fall in.

I like the idea of re-placing just the glass in double glazed windows to make them triple glazed.

QuiteFabULousDahling · 12/10/2018 14:25

Food shop done £50.45
Steak,sweet pot and salad tonight .
M&S Indian meal deal tomorrow .
Fruit was from M&S -looks lovely and 6 figs in the 2 for £4 deal plus a big box of british plums.
Aaah Eugenie looked lovely .
Andrew and Fergie have done a great job,they both seem lovely .
CagI spend all day smiling and listening to people and literally shut down when I get home .Its like my brain is full so GO AWAY !Grin

SummerDaize · 12/10/2018 14:27

Cag We could take it offlist maybe? I'd love to chat more if you have time.

Cagliostro · 12/10/2018 14:34

Definitely sounds like writing stuff down is the way to go then summer maybe do a full diary for the week with all issues that crop up etc.

Haha quite yup sometimes when DH gets home from work and is all chatty I really want to tell him to shut up as it hurts my brain! I used to actually when it was the other way round (when I first got ill I was working and he was SAHD) I was just like NOOOO no more talking! 😅

Forgot to say I think Joe is my fave so far and Danny because red dwarf! But I never tend to have really strong feelings on any of them until later in the series.

Are the tubs microwaveable fluff as what I really want is to be able to just shove it in and reheat. Not that we have a home bargains 😭

SummerDaize · 12/10/2018 14:37

A full diary for a week is a wizard idea Cag. I'll do that.

I'm going to really enjoy this...

Fluffycloudland77 · 12/10/2018 14:55

Microwaveable & dishwasher proof.

ememem84 · 12/10/2018 14:59

Done. And done. We are homeowners again.

Spending October organising our spends - friendly frugaleers this way!
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Fluffycloudland77 · 12/10/2018 15:07

Congratulations Em.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/credit_crunch/2270347-Frugal-January-everyone-welcome Useful threads are in the op of this thread.

WreckTangled · 12/10/2018 15:09

Only one key em?!

Had a lovely lunch that my step mum paid for. Tomato and pesto orzo with halloumi. Yum.

Wolfcub · 12/10/2018 15:09

Congratulations Em

Justanothermile · 12/10/2018 15:25

Brilliant news Em.

Do you plan on moving in gradually or in one shot?

Yum, Halloumi.

QuiteFabULousDahling · 12/10/2018 15:30

Yay!! What a relief for you em
So so happy for you 😍

ememem84 · 12/10/2018 15:40

Yes just the one key. It’s ok. Locks being changed tomorrow. They might have left other keys inside.

The relief. The relief is amazing. Knowing we’ve finally got there.

I’m not dissing at all dissing renters. Here it makes no sense to rent. We’d pay less for a mortgage than we would rent. £1500pcm mortgage vs £2500 rent for a 3 bed house.... it’s a no brainier

We’re going up tonight to have a look. Then will move in at some point over the next few weeks. There’s not much to do. But need to get things organised. And want to make sure boss is back before I take any time off.

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Cagliostro · 12/10/2018 17:04

Squeeeee em congratulations! So so happy for you 😍 a new house and home for your family 😍

Wow that’s a crazy disparity between rent and mortgage 😱 I know it can be a huge difference here. Although didn’t they say on shop well for less the other week that the family were better off continuing to rent?! That really surprised me.

I need to try orzo. Does it taste just like normal pasta?

Thanks fluff if I can stock up on cheap tubs that would make a big difference.

Wolfcub · 12/10/2018 18:48

£5 donation to springer charity

kitkat6 · 12/10/2018 18:54

em congrats on the house.
fluffy I am with halifax I must find the option for the cheques that would save me so much time! Do I keep the cheques or post them?
cag orzo is great tastes like pasta but I tend to use it as a rice replacement usually is a risotto as don't need to faff about stirring for what seems like hours (20 minutes)
for tubs I got a load from amazon that are for meal prep and also have compartments so can put mash in one bit, veg and then main meal bit in another.

Food Prep containers
More expensive but ours are on their 3rd year