The Friendly Frugaleers Keep on Chatting (and having babies!)

[WreckTangled]

New thread, everyone welcome!

I did actually come 4th female, that bit wasn't a joke.

I love Zo-flora and have never used bleach on my granite surfaces. I subscribe to the 'too much hygiene ain't a good thing' too. It would have been hard to do so anyway, my DC spent a lot of their childhood playing at the farm. They are robust. No way to prove or disprove and link of course.

Zo-flora easily bought at Poundland etc.

Well done Need

Will no one think of the bunnies?

Amazing what early parenthood drives you to need :o

And well done on race result!

I should think about the subject much more, but if you try to find out exactly which company owns what company and who ultimately tests on what, it's like a minefield.

That's an excuse though really, I should, but I don't is my honest answer.

I know. I'm glad the internet simply wasn't really accessible when my DC were small. It might have made me trust my instincts more I guess. I sound old....

Thanks, yep a pork scratching advent calendar is a thing btw!

Gonna bank my cheque tomorrow, helps one of my goals re frugality no end this month.

I was hoping instinct would carry me through this time TBH but I feel like I'm floundering more than ever this time round :( hormones probably not helping today though. At least I will see MW tomorrow although not sure if they'll be hurrying us through as it's a clinic slot rather than home visit?!

Can't believe she isn't even 4 days old yet.

Sorry Cag I absolutely didn't mean that as a snarky comment. I think it read that way. I kind of meant there's so much info and stuff out there today. You read one thing. Then you read another. Both different advice. And all you want to do is the best for your DC. Sorry Cag, if I came over any other way. xx

cag you're doing so well. Is she fretful and trying to feed, or just sleeping off being born? I literally fed mine when they cried for milk. Sometimes this was all the time, and sometimes I would pace about feeling like I'd burst waiting for them to wake up. I never fed at set intervals, which made my mum just about explode! As a 70's mum she bf, but only ever 4 hours, no inbetweens! It simply wasn't allowed I tried to ask her who would have known, my mum does not break the rules

Huge job done today. The base of our new shed is laid in breeze blocks. I'm so pleased. Plus we have a fire of all the rotten wood going. It feels like I'm actually making progress out there.

Will buy some zoflora. So do I put a splosh in the mop bucket etc with it?

I put a gammon joint in the slow cooker, was rushing so I added a pot of the carrot soup from the other day, we shall see...

I didn't read your comment as snarky need at all. There is a mass of conflicting info out there now. I had dodgy dial up (remember that?) and no google when I had dd1. Very well done on your run, that's a good prize too!

Lonely I want to get out and do more gardening this winter. I think I'm going to aim for an hour a day or something, and try to get our herbaceous border straightened out. I might need some warmer clothes though. Your shed base sounds fantastic.

Oh I know that my lovely don't worry! I do understand what you mean. Internet was definitely a Bad Thing when it came to the pregnancy and birth - I struggled sooo much more this time round simply because I am more aware of everything than I was when I had the other two. Just reading things on MN etc that stuck with me and made me panic. I am grateful for the internet today though as I had lots of experienced people to advise instantly when I wasn't able to see a MW (no clots today thankfully so haven't needed to return to hospital).

The BFing issue has really thrown me though. You know the stupid thing is... when DS was a baby I trained as a peer supporter! I used to know all this stuff, and help other mums with the same struggles. Then we lost funding, life moved on and now I don't remember a thing, and it's not easy like I thought it should be given how it was with DS. I know it's the hormone crash happening but in this moment I feel like a total failure as I wasn't expecting to find this so hard.

Ta-da!

That's amazing carving Wreck! The font is just perfect for the words.

Sorry to hear it's hard Cag. It reminds me of a lady who came to an LLL meeting when I was there with ds and she said it was her third child and she was a qualified bf councillor and she still couldn't get dc3 to latch on. It's clearly just not an easy thing to do. Hang in there. It's definitely worth doing it.

We printed out a stencil (thanks google!)

cag, thanks love. You are doing brill. Just proves they are all so individual aren't they? I think you've lots of knowledge and are a natural mum anyway actually. It's super early days.

lonely thanks. I've already emailed the coach moaning I'm not happy with my time and and pacing and blah blah etc, more volume, more speed, blah blah. It was a decent prize, I've had less generous ones in my time more often actually

Bloody amazing wrecked, they are so hard to carve too. Mine is tomorrow's job. DH is fearing pumpkin soup.

Those pumpkins look amazing Wreck. I'm rubbish at art things.

£1.50 big roasting tin in wilko, reduced from £5 free c&c My le creuset ceramic roaster has a crack in it & I darent put it in a hot oven. The wilko one will probably outlast it.

Those pumpkin carving kits will be pennies soon.

Cag be kind to yourself, you are doing so well and bfing a newborn is no mean feat.

Wow Wreck very impressive. We haven't done ours yet, tomos I guess.

Dd is home and has been really grown up about the dog, she understands that it wasn't the right one for us but that doesn't mean there won't ever be the right one. I feel more relaxed already that the dog has gone which shows it was the right decision, I think when she was here I was constantly on guard for her needing the toilet or weeing somewhere. Will miss her sweet face though, hopefully will get to pop in and see her from time to time.

I'm looking forward to a better nights kip tonight.

Amazing pumpkins! Really put ours to shame.
NSD. Yay!

Hi everyone, been AWOL with sickness all weekend really. The new drug is helping a bit and I am managing to keep some food and drink down now but still vomiting a few times a day...so far today the things I've eaten that have stayed down have been a cup-a-soup, a few crisps, and two pieces of toasted fruit loaf with marge. I am permanently starving hungry and my tummy hurts from the hunger and the muscles ache from the violent retching . I am not toooo bad if I sit perfectly still but as soon as I move I vomit, e.g. every time I go to the bathroom I vomit. So clearly work tomorrow is not going to happen - it's my last day I can self-certify so need to call up and arrange a sick note. I'm going to ask the GP to recommend I can work from home as I think I can manage that - our work is all based on our special work-laptops so if I had it at home and could sit perfectly still all day in one place (which I'm mostly doing anyway atm) I could work, just puke in the bin next to me when I need to. Shall I tell my manager on the phone when I call in sick that I'm pregnant or just wait for him to get the sick note? Going to get that to say it's pregnancy related, this could go on for weeks and I'm better protected with it being pregnancy-related I guess.

Gave in and told my mam over the phone today, she wasn't super shocked really and said my nan and auntie had both been saying that already when they found out I was sick . I asked her not to tell my brother or sister yet but then she was talking dead loud on the phone so they may have overheard anyway . I thought I would feel better telling her but if anything it made me more anxious as she started telling me all the things I should be doing which got me irritated and anxious although I know she means well :/

Girlie Sorry to hear it didn't work out with the dog but better to make the decision that's best for you all as early as possible really. Glad to hear DD is dealing with it ok, she sounds very mature.

Cag I'm sure you are doing brilliantly, try not to beat yourself up . Breastfeeding can be super hard for people, I guess all babies are different too.

Wreck Love the pumpkins!!

Need Well done on the race!

I’ve done nothing but feed ds all afternoon. Bf seems to soothe him and his temp has gone down s bit. He’s still cranky though. Doesn’t want to be put down.

Roast chicken dinner. Yum.

cag you’re doing so well xx

need woo 4th! Well done!

wreck ace pumpkins. I always want to carve one but we’ve no windows which overlook the roadside. So no one will see. Booo when I have a house.

Annoyingly I have a sore throat. And a bit of a headache. And my teeth hurt (a sure fire sign of a cold for me).

I’m hoping I get some sleep tonight. Ds and I are meant to be going to baby reflexology tomorrow. But if he’s no better I don’t think we’ll be going. No point trying to do something calming etc if he’s screaming...not fair on him if he’s unwell and absolutely not fair on the other people.

Wll its been a shit day
Got sent home early -I feel as if my MH has dropped off a cliff .
Horrible feelings of paranoia and overwhelming anxiety .
Have I said something wrong on here ?
Im really scared and DH isnt here

Oh no pink!

No you haven't said anything wrong on here at all lovely. Is there anything that's triggered this extra anxiety?

Meadow poor you! Yes tell your manager you’ll feel better (mentally at least!) for doing it.**

Pink poor you, you definitely haven’t done anything wrong.* Have you been prescribed beta blockers? If so take one they really do help those awful physical pangs. When I was bad I used to just go to bed but I remember not being able to do anything because my heart was pounding so much. Lots of us here have anxiety and it’s horrible. When will dh be home? We can keep you company until then.*

Pink Sorry to hear you are feeling so bad . We are here to keep you company while your DH is out if you need it, but if you are in urgent need of someone to talk to, you can call the Samaritans on 116 123, they are very good and I have used them a few times myself in the past.