Ok, I am going to take the plunge and cancel sky. We only really use it for recording and watching recorded rubbish (Eastenders and Neighbours - sad I know)! We do not have an ariel but is it true you can just cancel sky and still get "normal" TV through your dish? I don't mind getting the freesat box (cheap one without record £30 ish) - does that mean you get some better channels? We will just use iplayer on laptop to watch missed episodes of programmes. or is does anyone know of a good box to record with? I don't know much do I! Basically don't want to pay £25 a month anymore! please advise oh clever credit crunchers!!