If you could go back in time, would you still get the jab?

[Quweenie]

If you could go back in time, would you still get the Covid jab?

I don’t really care if you’re vaccinated or not, but I’m interested if people would go back and change their decision?

Thanks for the warning, are you okay now?

No it triggered a serious autoimmune disease in me that will trouble me all my life. I wanted the vaccine so badly and was just hugely unlucky.

Yes. Why not? It gives immunity for a wee while.

I'm not planning on getting another one until the immunity lasts years rather than weeks.

Yes, despite being low risk when I finally got Covid I was really ill and now have long Covid. Without the vaccine I suspect I'd've been hospitalised.

Yes. I have had four covid vaccines. The Moderna one gave me headaches but I had no side effects with the others.
I know one person who has refused the latest round of boosters because he found the side effects with the earlier vaccinations to be quite unpleasant. He has had covid multiple times and has long covid and COPD.

@toocold54

"I think it took about 30 years to eradicate polio from when the vaccine was first introduced.

It doesn’t happen over night but I think we’ve done pretty well to manage covid, considering it is spread through non-direct contact in the air and so obviously much harder to control than other illnesses.

A major part of this is because so many people have had the vaccination.

If lots of people get a vaccination within a certain time frame then herd immunity kicks in and the disease can be eradicated, like polio is.
But if people stop having the polio vaccination then it can return.
Obviously if it mutates, then that is much harder to eradicate, especially if animals also carry "

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The polio virus and vaccination is a completely different virus class (Class: Pisoniviricetes) to Covid ((coronavirus of which there are 7 variants, four of which are in the form of common colds).

No matter how many people get the Covid jab you will never ever eradicate the Covid virus because the jab doesn't stop you getting covid or passing it on but reduces the severity of symptoms. So it keeps on circulating and mutating just like the cold virus does.

Conversely the polio vaccine in the majority of cases stops you getting polio so if you vaccinate enough people then you could in theory eradicate the virus as has happened with smallpox. Although not fully eradicated there were only 6 cases of polio in the world during 2021. Smallpox on the other hand has been completely eradicated and the virus only exists in labs removing the need for further vaccinations.

Think of the Covid jab like the flu jab which needs to be updated every year to deal with mutations in the flu virus.

You are correct in that the covid jab has helped in managing it but equally so has natural resistance acquired by so many people getting Covid.

Of course and I will have every booster offered as soon as I can

This is v clear and helpful. Thx!

@stargirl1701

"'m not planning on getting another one until the immunity lasts years rather than weeks."

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Sorry but that's simply not going to happen with this virus.

Think of it like the flu jab which reduces the severity of the symptoms when you do get flu but doesn't prevent you catching the flu or passing it on. The covid jab does not give you immunity but the effectiveness of each jab declines from a peak of two weeks after the jab to about (depending on the individual) 270 days whereupon it's minimal and you are about the same as someone who didn't have the jab.

Equally like the flu jab it needs to be updated every year to cover mutations.

I will give this a good read, thank you. I do worry that we can't know of long term effects, if any, in the children born when their mother had the vaccine in pregnancy as its too early. That being said I am always keen to read studies. I find this to be a difficult choice personally.

I've had something similar happen. I only had the vaccine because my dad nagged me.

Didn't have any jabs. Have had covid. Mild. Every day thank the lord I did not put that crap into my body. Seriously.

The whole situation was coercive. Those conditions existed. If i wanted to travel or not lie to relatives, had to have vaccn. So... I don't regret it. But I only got jabs because other people wanted me to. I never did it for myself.

I now have a strong aversion to getting flu shot because of the coercion to get C19 jabs.

Yes, fine now thank you, but still having regular check-ups.

Yes. Fine now thank you, but still having regular check-ups.

Glad you're okay.

I fully agree with you on the coercion point and that still rankles me. But please please don't let that discourage you from having the flu jab which is really worth getting for under 16s and over 40s.

No

I 💯 get that. And I can see your reasoning. But I think the idea that this is an “experimental” vaccine is not strictly accurate. Society has been working with vaccine technology for a long time, and mRNA vaccs for decades.

The only advice I’d give is weigh up the pros and cons carefully. Make sure the things you are reading have integrity (not mis information and not randomers -inc me - on mn).

All you want is the best for your baby. You are frightened of the risk posed by the vaccine. But there is risk to you and your baby involved in getting covid unvaccinated. Just make sure you know what these risks are.

Good luck and enjoy your pregnancy.

@MrsRR1

amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/oct/05/pregnant-women-not-taking-vaccine

That’s a bit old now. And we know more now (as far as I can see all the evidence points to getting covid is riskier than vaccine). But it clear and balanced I think.

Why the fuck would I not?

Thank you. And thank you for responding without judgement. Its refreshing to not be called all sorts of names and be helped with useful information. I appreciate it

@MrsRR1
@BeardyButton

"Thank you. And thank you for responding without judgement. Its refreshing to not be called all sorts of names and be helped with useful information. I appreciate it"

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This is getting all far too civilised, reasonable, rational and polite for a Covid related thread 😀

I was just correcting you that the vaccine doesn’t actually contain the virus.

@MrsRR1 I'm also pregnant and unsure whether to get the covid jab! I have had three before, and the booster knocked me for six and was worse than when I got covid 6 months later. I decided after that that I wouldn't have another one but now I'm 18 weeks pregnant and unsure. I had the flu jab for the first time at 12 weeks and felt no symptoms of that at all.

I expressed concerns to three health care professionals now (anecdotal worries from pregnant friends who had the jab) and expected them to really push it but they didn't at all and just gave me a leaflet - they didn't seem particularly bothered either way.

I've seen that covid is most dangerous during the third trimester so I think I might get it after my 20 week scan so that I have max protection but I'll discuss it with them again beforehand. My fiancé is against me having it as he doesn't trust it, but it isn't his decision 🤷🏻‍♀️