If you could go back in time, would you still get the jab?

[Quweenie]

If you could go back in time, would you still get the Covid jab?

I don’t really care if you’re vaccinated or not, but I’m interested if people would go back and change their decision?

100%. Can you think of a reason why not?

Because vaccines such as polio and diphtheria actually worked and eradicated these diseases in countries with a good inoculation rate. To my knowledge I don't think the covid vaccine has done the same in countries with a high vaccination rate and that's why this vaccine is different for me personally.

The way I look at it is each to their own, my sister has been vaccinated and I don't have issues with it or judge her and she doesn't have a problem with me not having it because it's our own personal choice.

Yep.
Had all 4.
Not had covid to my knowledge.

Yes. As many have stated.

On the “my unvaccinated friends had mild covid, but my vaccinated friends had worse symptoms”.

Here is how science can help:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2797418

Lots of people (c 1200) as opposed to you and your (maybe 30?) friends. A scientific methodology used to collect and analyse the data. Peer reviewed to check all is in order. And the results - vaccinated people had significantly milder infection and lower viral loads than their unvacc’ed peers.

And there are more studies. That’s the thing about covid - the participant pool is HUGE. The more people involved in these and other studies, the more sure we can be of the results.

But the truth is- many people don’t want to inform themselves. Distrust of science has become a justification for doing what you want to do. Its very worrisome.

Absolutely not.

Not sure... I had really bad side effects after each jab and Covid floored me when I did get it.. 3 injections later.

Most people seeing your link are not going to be educated enough in that area to have a clue what it is on about. It is aimed at medical professionals, not the lay person.

If I am looking online for medical information either to give to my GP for investigation, or to put my mind at rest... it is not stuff that you need a degree to read and understand.

I personally cannot think of a reason why I would, retrospectively, choose not to have the vaccine. I personally think that the vaccine (on a population basis not an individual one) is the reason that we are where we are. I wasn't being antagonistic and I think we're all entitled to our opinions.

It doesn’t take a degree in public health to work out what this means. I ve bonded the important parts for you.

“In this prospective cohort study that included 1199 participants with SARS-CoV-2 infection, receipt of 2 or 3 mRNA vaccine doses before Delta infections and 3 mRNA vaccine doses before Omicron infections was significantly associated with milder COVID-19 (less frequently symptomatic, febrile, or medically attended or shorter duration of illness) compared with being unvaccinated.”

And as I mentioned there are sources that specifically take studies like this and put them in easy to understand language (The Conversation). And to be honest… If you are making really important decisions like deciding to be unvaccinated during pregnancy, then you should try and inform yourself with science!

Absolutely. But do make sure it is trustworthy. Peer reviewed scientific studies are trustworthy. Some random article that looks like it comes from a news site but actually is just some mis information spinning site is not.

As I have said before, The Conversation is a great site for translating reputable research.

Is still gobbly goop to me.
I am also not pregnant, so no idea where you got that from.

For example

theconversation.com/amp/five-reasons-why-young-people-should-get-a-covid-booster-vaccine-189411

The research is hyperlinked. You can click on it to have a look at the data in more depth (if you want to). It is written by academic/scientific experts. And it’s written in easy to understand language. It really isn’t hard to inform yourself, if you want to!

Nope, not a chance. Dh had tachycardia and arrhythmia so stopped after two. I felt pressured into a third. Not a chance another is going in my arm. HCP in the family had none, refused to give their children and advised us not to. Wished we’d had their guts and refused instead of following like sheep.

Because vaccines such as polio and diphtheria actually worked and eradicated these diseases in countries with a good inoculation rate. To my knowledge I don't think the covid vaccine has done the same in countries with a high vaccination rate and that's why this vaccine is different for me personally.

I think it took about 30 years to eradicate polio from when the vaccine was first introduced.

It doesn’t happen over night but I think we’ve done pretty well to manage covid, considering it is spread through non-direct contact in the air and so obviously much harder to control than other illnesses.

A major part of this is because so many people have had the vaccination.

If lots of people get a vaccination within a certain time frame then herd immunity kicks in and the disease can be eradicated, like polio is.
But if people stop having the polio vaccination then it can return.
Obviously if it mutates, then that is much harder to eradicate, especially if animals also carry it.

I have had 3 Pfizer and 2 Moderna vaccines and an Influenza jab. I had no reaction to any of them, so Yes I woulddefinitely have them!

Not talking to you specifically. There has been more than one person on this thread justifying vaccine hesitancy during pregnancy.

Look - whatever source you use to inform your decisions, just make sure it’s based on empirical studies. There is a huge amount of mis information out there.

My "source" is my own needle phobia. No papers about that, funnily enough.

But we can't always make decisions based on studies

my decision to have the first two was pure fear of repercussions for not having it.

my pregnant friend was aware of the empirical studies, but the coroner confirmed her father died as a direct result of the vax. That's a very tough spot to be in and at some point, you will go with your feelings.

like people who took the jab to go on holiday. Or in Scotland and Wales, they went as far as vax status needed for big events.

No, not a chance. Had retinal bleeding and loss of vision in one eye 5 days after the first and only jab. Didn't link the 2 until after a visit to the eye consultant.
The royal college of opthalmology issued a warning to its members to be on the lookout for an increase in retinal problems.
Not something you are told, but the official info is there if you look.

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@XenoBitch

"There is actually another option…. Actual empirical studies. Science. The study of large cohorts of persons to understand the virus, how it effects us, how it responds to vaccination etc etc etc."

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There is actually another option...
Data analysis that shows what sections of society were most likely to die or get hospitalised or get seriously ill.

Science tells us the genome of the virus, how it transmits, tracks mutations and ultimately helped develop the jab. All jolly useful stuff I think we can all agree on.

But data analysis shows us the probability of risk, which clearly indicated age and BMI and vaccination status.

Yes, all five; and I'll be getting any offered in future.

Hmmm. Interesting first post.

100% would.

Yes I would, and boosters too.