Triple jabbed and second Covid?

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Is it normal to have Covid again, after being jabbed 3 times? I thought I’d have a strong immunity by now after the first natural infection plus jabs. Is anyone else in the same situation? I’m literally drained and have zero energy. My symptoms are not any of the classic symptoms, but a headache, fatigue and heart palpitations. I’m childishly disappointed by it all. I’ve been signed off work but have no idea what to do with drop offs to school, all the children’s plans too.

There were lots of posts at the time discussing whether the vaccine gave sterilising immunity (stopped transmission) and of course we now know it doesn't, though it does provide some reduction

The key think is reduction in hospital admissions - in unvaccinated population it was about 9-10%, after vaccination it was under 2%, with later variants in a vaccinated population it was getting down towards 1% (not checked recently to see if that's up to date). The big drop was because of vaccination, not because of characteristics of variant (which could change either way).

Hospitalisation percentages were (and are) based on an assumed number of vaccinated/unvaccinated in the population, and an varying definitions of “vaccinated”. They are certainly not reliable.

For real?
I’ve had no vaccines and had covid twice. First time was before there were any vaccines and I admit it was not pleasant. Second time it was a sore throat.
All my colleagues have had all their vaccines and boosters and have had multiple, terrible bouts of covid (and some pretty weird vaccine side effects including quite severe hair loss). They all say the same as you....grateful they have had the vaccines. There’s a mass assumption that without being vaccinated everyone would have had it worse, but MOST people who have caught covid even before the vaccine rollout just had mild symptoms!

Also had covid mildly once despite being unvaccinated. I know vaccinated people who've had it mildly, and some who've been horribly ill. I don't think we can really say either way that it's made any difference on an individual level as there's no way of proving otherwise. The point is it should always have been personal choice and the pressure and coercion into having it, based on what we now know are pretty tenuous claims about protecting others, was pretty appalling.

I've had three jabs and had covid for the second time in October (frustratingly a week before my booked booster).

Fundamentally we're never going to stop transmission any more than we can stop the common cold.

Vaccinations will help reduce severity for the most vulnerable and treatments will get better as medics get more experience with it but it's here to stay.

Times have certainly changed on here, you'd have been crucified for admitting to being unvaxxed a year ago.

An about turn in The Washington Post from Leanna Wen MD who at one point felt the unvaccinated should not be allowed to leave their homes.

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/12/18/military-vaccine-mandate-covid-natural-immunity/

"One Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study found that vaccinated people who never had covid were at least three times as likely to be infected as unvaccinated people with prior infection. And a Lancet study found that those who were vaccinated but never had covid were four times as likely to have severe illness resulting in hospitalization or death compared to the unvaccinated who recovered from it.

Protection from natural immunity also wanes at a slower rate than from vaccination. A recent large Israeli study published in the New England Journal of Medicine compared two groups of people: one that had been vaccinated and never had covid before, and another that never received vaccines but had recently recovered from covid. The results are striking: Two months after their shots, members of the first group had twice the number of infections as the second. And after six months, the first group’s infection rate was nearly three times higher than the second’s."

You should read the responses to the article. Oh my life!

People have short memories, it was definitely claimed that the vaccine would prevent transmission by gov, medics & media. A complete and utter lie. Biden even said the vaccine would stop transmission and you won’t get Covid if you take the vaccine.

Who would they have had mandates and covid passes all over the world if the vaccine didn't supposedly prevent transmission?

*Why not who.

Good question, start thinking!

Good question! Start thinking!

We knew pretty early on that it reduced, but did not prevent, transmission.

(People became less ill, lower viral load, lower transmission)

The hospitalisation rate fell from about 9% to around 2%, and they needed that to happen so health services didn't break

No we did not! There is a record by many politicians saying that it does stop transmission. It’s a fact. They said that and many people got a jab believing this notion.
you want have one- have it, never in a history we were forced to have a medical intervention on a scale we have seen over last 2 years

The problem is that there is some evidence linking Covid T Cell dysfunction.publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/150/Supplement%203/S63/189963/Profound-Dysregulation-of-T-cell-Homeostasis-and

Sorry, I can’t find any articles written in Layman’s terms.

*covid to T cell dysfunction

Exactly. Why were unvaxxed banned from visiting their dying relatives in care homes and why were unvaxxed staff sacked?

@Roselilly36 I think it is a case of them being scared of where their minds might take them contemplating that things aren't what they seem.

@curiouslycinnamon what nonsense.reduce severity for SOME, but for the stark majority, Covid was something they'd not suffer much from regardless. And so many more are asymptomatic anyways, so how would 4 vaccines reduce the severity for people HAVE NO SYMPTOMS. You are regurgitating these these statistic that come from models. Let's face it, Sage's models were far from accurate at any given point in time during the pandemic.
The amount of projected reduction is not absolute.

My husband got it four weeks after his third jab. I was double jabbed and got it at the same time. Same course of illness for both of us.

"I've been jabbed 4 times, and caught Covid 4 times, and was so ill that I cannot imagine what it would have been like if I wasn't"

This is one of the most frightening statements that we see on here.

The vast majority of people pre vaccines got over Covid. Why are we forgetting this? If you have been vaccinated for something and get seriously ill from the virus it is supposed to protect you from, it should be assumed that the vaccine itself didn't actually provide the protection it was supposed to. Not that it stopped you from even more serious illness. How could you possibly predict how ill you would have become? It behaves differently with everyone.

Even I myself was wary of unvaccinated people for a short while because I believed that they were still spreading it. That idea came mostly from this forum, because of how vilified they were. Selfish, non compliant disease spreaders who were not allowed to travel or socialise. How bloody sad!

No rhyme or reason to Covid. First time was before vaccinations were offered to my age group. I wasn’t I’ll but lost sense of smell and taste for six months.

three vaccinations down I caught it again. Like a mild cold, no illness.

Just had a fourth vaccine, hoping that will see me through the winter combined with my last virus.

Trouble is, with most vaccinations it stops us getting whatever.
The covid one does not do this.

I think this will take years for it to sink in with people

Another anomoly.
We dont vacciante for a cold - which is a virus.
But we do vaccinte for covid -which is a virus.

Confusing.