Triple jabbed and second Covid?

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Is it normal to have Covid again, after being jabbed 3 times? I thought I’d have a strong immunity by now after the first natural infection plus jabs. Is anyone else in the same situation? I’m literally drained and have zero energy. My symptoms are not any of the classic symptoms, but a headache, fatigue and heart palpitations. I’m childishly disappointed by it all. I’ve been signed off work but have no idea what to do with drop offs to school, all the children’s plans too.

The vaccination does not stop transmission, it reduces the seriousness if you catch it

The vaccination and boosters won't stop you getting it, but should lessen the symptoms and severity. I had covid at the end of July. I had a cold at the end of October which was much worse.

I’ve had 4 boosters now and had covid last week. I was poorlier this time around than when I had it after just one booster. Makes no sense 🙄

Covid, just like the flu virus is constantly mutating & changing. You don’t get a cold & complain you had one 10 or 20 years ago?? Most people can expect to get many colds in their lifetime. You can expect to get Covid many times in your lifetime too. It is here to stay. The flu/covid vaccinations might make you immune to certain strains or hopefully make you not have it as bad as you would have done without the vaccination- ie- less likely to be hospitalised or die. But you need regular boosters of these vaccinations because 1) the effectiveness wears off 2) the viruses are changing. If you got Covid 2 years ago it won’t be the same strain of virus if you have Covid now.
There’s a nasty strain of our common cold/flu going around at the moment.
I’ve had Covid 3 times, I’ve had all 4 jabs.

@HermioneWeasley
To be completely honest I vaccinated three times because I didn’t want to pass it to my vulnerable friend and also because I couldn’t see my family abroad if I didn’t have it. I’m not from the vulnerable group. I did have an impression that will reduce transmission. My Covid is probably classed as mild anyway even though I do feel poorly, I’m not anywhere near needing medical help. But I still feel it the same way poorly as when I was sick before vaccination.

@sapphiremoonlight
so does it mean that very soon we’ll be all swamped with sick people again? I’m not eligible for a booster and I imagine many people like me will get sick and spread it soon enough

I did have an impression that will reduce transmission.

Well you certainly weren’t the only one. I read the Pfizer study protocol right at the beginning and yet couldn’t convince anyone that it wasn’t looking at transmission. It was based on very very few symptomatic cases out of thousands, by vaccination status. 8 in one group and less than 200 in the other, out of thousands. That’s all it was based on.

I saw something the other day which ranked degree of protection against infection as follows, from best to worst:

1. Post-infection immunity plus vaccination
2. Post-infection immunity only
3. Vaccination only
4. Neither

I had COVID before I was eligible for vaccination.. I then went on to have the two initial doses, then the booster last October. Caught COVID for the second time in August, I was a similar level of ill, but recovered much more quickly.

Immunity does wane over time, plus the original vaccinations were aimed at the original strain and are not as good at preventing infection with the currently dominant strains. They are, however, still very effective at preventing hospitalisation and death. Plus the vaccine now being used for boosters are bivalent and will protect against current strains as well as the original one.

Based on what I’ve seen, I believe it is worth having a vaccination when offered. Don’t assume it will guarantee you won’t catch Covid - you still might. If you do, you will likely be less ill and bounce back quicker than you otherwise would.

I’m CEV to Covid so have had every vaccine/booster offered. I first tested positive in January this year and barely noticed it. I had it again in September and it affected me much more that time, it took around 3 weeks before I felt well again.

It's just a virus like many others.
We vaccinate, it mutates. We vaccinate again, it mutates again.
Some people have barely any symptoms, some people die.
Just take paracetamol and nurofen and get in with your life, like you would with any virus.
Stay away from CEV people, like you would with any virus.

The 1918 'flu, also known as the Spanish 'Flu, mutated to become the common cold. Despite decades of research, we haven't managed to prevent it.

To be fair everyone said it prevented transmission - this was said multiple times as we had to vaccinate to help prevent spread and new variants. As far as I can telll neither statement was based on much which is a shame as that erodes trust in our institutions

Yes, the press ran with “95% effective at preventing covid” when in fact it that’s not what 95% efficacy meant. Politicians, presidents and prime ministers all declared that it would stop transmission. Anyone who tried to claim otherwise (which was and is the truth) were labelled anti vax conspiracy theorists. Pfizer have since admitted they didn’t test for transmission. I wonder why they didn’t speak up at the time... oh yeah..coz they were warning she’d loads of money from the misinterpretation of their results.

*earning shed loads.
Autocorrect fail.

I’ve had four jabs and got covid again since fourth jab. I feel similar to you with my symptoms. I’m just assuming without the jabs we would feel much worse.

I thought the jabs did stop transmission. We then had Alpha, Delta and Omicron.

We'll said - can we now all agree that vaccine passports etc were completely unnecessary and brought in purely as a political experiment. If it doesn't stop transmission we should all be left alone to make our own choices and the government should be held to account for forcing draconian policies on people and sacking care workers who refused to be vaccinated. The government knew the vaccine had not been tested for transmission so should not have been telling us all so forcefully that it stopped 95% of transmissions.

Why? I've had no jabs. Had COVID once, no symptoms and haven't had it since. Massively upped my intake of vitamin D in the winter months. That was the only change I made. Those around me who've had the jab seem to be coming down with all sorts. I'm not happy about that - they are my friends and family and a couple now have heart problems which they didn't have before. It's all anecdotal I know but that's all we have to go on as the government and pharmaceutical companies are so corrupt.

It doesn't stop you getting or spreading it unfortunately. I had covid pre vax and after my third jab. I don't see the need personally for me in having any more covid vaccines. If I had known at the time how soon they wear off I wouldn't have had any. I'm not anti vax at all. Just seems a bit pointless that I likely had Delta as caught it in Kent and was totally fine. Its now compared to cold so if delta didn't me, we'll I think I'm not going to die of covid going forward. Last I had it we as a family spread it pretty well as the lft tests only worked five days into being ill

There was for a long time a bright yellow box on the NHS website that said that they didn't know if it prevented transmission. Does anyone else remember it?
Though that flies in the face of vaccine mandates for NHS workers that were only dropped March this year.

Anyway, I've had it 2, possibly 3 times. Xmas last year and then summer this year. Xmas last year I could continue as normal and was still able to continue to look after my parent ( who I caught it from). Summer this year I wouldn't have even thought to test as the symptoms were that of a sniffle.

The time there's the question mark on -xmas 2019, I was in and out of bed for about 3 weeks as symptoms came and went and took a further month at least to feel back to strength.q Of course we haven't had any definitive answer about whether it was circulating then.

There's loads we can do to ensure we're as fit and well as possible and loads that we can do to support our immune system. I'm so surprised at the lack of public messaging about it.
I think we need to pick a strategy and give it time to play out. I'm putting my eggs in the basket of those doctors that have success supporting people in reversing diabetes, reducing inflammation within the body, improving gut health and as a side effect reducing obesity. Two of those conditions are among the most at risk groups, so for me, doctors who are involved in this field also have a vested interest in understanding what can improve our chances with covid. Others may lean towards plant based etc...With any approach, eating less processed food and getting plenty of daylight and exercise is going to pay dividends anyway, even if the approach isn't optimal.
Taking additional supplements is going to help to augment our diet IF we're deficient.

They weren't tested for that but hoped it would. If fewer people catch it and the symptoms are less severe and don't last as long then logically it would on a population level. That little yellow box and the fact that they hung on to restrictions for so long suggests they either they didn't have enough data or knew it was much less effective at that than the public believed.

I don't watch live TV or listen to the radioso I was surprised that the local radio that was on in the hairdresser's was still pushing the vaccine for preventing transmission to colleagues family etc...
One of the ads was about having it for our mates. Maybe they just lack budget to provide more up to date information

I don't think they ever said it would PREVENT transmission... it was always that it would REDUCE transmission. Very different.

Surely it's clear to see that vaccination is working to reduce the impact of covid on society. For those who have still caught it/been ill with it, if you hadn't been vaccinated you could have been much more ill, needed hospitalisation, or worse. You'll never know. And whether you were more ill the first vs sevond time or pre/post vaccine is irrelevant (as in you'll never know how ill you would have been if you hadn't had the vaccine). But each of our vaccinations has played a role in getting us back to a way of life similar to 2019, so that has to be a good thing.

ReviewingTheSituation · Today 13:43
I don't think they ever said it would PREVENT transmission... it was always that it would REDUCE transmission. Very different.

No, the press, the politicians, the prime minister and presidents all on camera saying it prevented transmission.
I watched this recently and it made my blood boil with disgust:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=8MfUPyQug8k

To add, I had covid in March 2000 and was very unwell, though not as bad as some doses of flu I’d had in the past. I had covid again two years later and it was no more than a very sore throat. No vaccines.