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Still no air filters in schools?

367 replies

wondersun · 26/08/2022 00:03

Is anyone else really hacked off that there are still no air filters in schools??

The kids don’t spread it / don’t get sick from covid nonsense narrative has been replaced with cases are low due to school holidays (so much nicer when covid knew to wait at the school gates!) but the government are still refusing to do something so simple which could make schools safer.

Its like they don’t want to admit it’s worth avoiding repeat covid infections so therefore have to do nothing to stop/slow the thread and risk inevitable questions.

Even if it just slows it - every covid infection is a roll of long covid etc risks - why do they seem so keen to spread it round asap.

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noblegiraffe · 27/08/2022 19:01

People never distinguish between the different teaching unions either. <sigh>

LockAqua · 27/08/2022 19:01

@noblegiraffe

I would be strongly opposed to at least 2 of those measures. Lateral flow testing isn’t available anywhere else, so why on earth should they be offered in schools. It would mean millions of healthy children off school and be a godsend to the hypochondriacs.

DC should never have been wearing masks and the idea they should do so now 3 years into this with the vulnerable having had 4 vaccines is bonkers.

noblegiraffe · 27/08/2022 19:02

Oh, and stop tagging me thanks.

noblegiraffe · 27/08/2022 19:05

Lateral flow testing isn’t available anywhere else, so why on earth should they be offered in schools

I suspect that many people think that it is completely stupid that LFTs aren't available anywhere else, so using the lack as an argument against them in schools isn't the most convincing

DC should never have been wearing masks

The letter asks for updated guidance. The government have introduced masks in schools (in corridors but not in classrooms, in classrooms, then not at all, with bizarre timings) and the guidance on when to introduce measures is bollocks. A rewrite is definitely needed.

BeenToldComputerSaysNo · 27/08/2022 19:07

@noblegiraffe - do you know if they have received a response?

noblegiraffe · 27/08/2022 19:09

You don't need to tag me!

I would hazard a guess as to god no they're too busy writing guidance about toilets.

BeenToldComputerSaysNo · 27/08/2022 19:11

Sorry! Thanks

MajorCarolDanvers · 27/08/2022 19:13

@twinkletoesimnot

*And is that more important than keeping kids as healthy as possible and schools open?

Parents that are already struggling will not want to have to homeschool for a few days if their child's class closes.

Staffing will be under even more pressure now school budgets will also be massively affected by the energy crisis*

Actually yes.

The cost of living crisis is a greater risk than Covid now.

You know things have moved on now, right?

Covid is endemic now. Just like other diseases.

MajorCarolDanvers · 27/08/2022 19:14

I honestly think some people miss the pandemic and want to wallow in it forever.

noblegiraffe · 27/08/2022 19:16

Some people think covid is over and it's not 🤷‍♀️

BeenToldComputerSaysNo · 27/08/2022 19:18

Me too. They're the ones that want to do sod all to help genuinely live with it. It's a bit like another crisis coming along and people refusing to do anything about the cost of living crisis.

LockAqua · 27/08/2022 19:18

Lateral flow testing had a role to play pre-vaccine (in fact, more use of it should have been made imo to keep society and the economy open).

But we cannot and should not be funding testing and staying at home indefinitely for a virus that will not cause serious harm for the vast majority.

We also cannot afford to have DC who are not ill at home again because of positive tests.

noblegiraffe · 27/08/2022 19:21

People trying to pretend that the new normal should just be the old normal are ignoring the fact that attempting to pretend that the old normal is just fine right now is actually causing loads of kids to miss school.

Attendance is well down on pre-covid.

noblegiraffe · 27/08/2022 19:23

We also cannot afford to have DC who are not ill at home again because of positive tests.

The letter, by the way, says access to free tests. Not routine testing.

LockAqua · 27/08/2022 19:25

Which would result in DC of lockdown fanatics and hypochondriacs at home missing school unnecessarily.

noblegiraffe · 27/08/2022 19:32

I can see that you’d prefer schools closing due to staffing shortages or children missing school due to illness rather than considering any measures to limit the spread.

Why are you so in favour of school closures and pupil absence?

BeenToldComputerSaysNo · 27/08/2022 19:33

Struggling with your terminology. When you say 'lockdown fanatic' or 'hypochondriac', are you referring to those who would choose to keep their kids off if positive or something else?

JanglyBeads · 27/08/2022 19:38

What do you mean by endemic, @MajorCarolDanvers ?

LockAqua · 27/08/2022 19:47

@BeenToldComputerSaysNo

I’m referring to those who would be constantly testing their DC even with no symptoms and not ill and looking to keep them off school in the event of a positive test.

Firty · 27/08/2022 19:55

CherryBlossomAutumn · 26/08/2022 01:37

There is an Italian study which showed a big reduction in spread of Covid in the classes with air filters. We have joint paid for filters in two classes at our child’s school.

Its absolutely what we should be doing. And it’s relatively cheap and not intrusive. As part of of an overall strategy of ensuring circulation of fresh air, isolation of cases and masks at the peak of waves. My child got asthma after Covid this year, GP said he’d had loads of kids with bad chest infections after the last wave.

There are countries where all the schools have been fitted with filters and good fresh air ventilation already. We are utterly rubbish and have a blind spot about schools. All driven by opinion based ‘science’ which is just lobbying power denying anything that is sensible regarding Covid.

This.

The government could find the money if they chose to. Google what they spend on defence… Yes defence is important but so is children’s health and education.

noblegiraffe · 27/08/2022 19:55

Why would this fictional parent need a positive test to keep a well kid off school?

Schools don’t ask to see tests, you know.

noblegiraffe · 27/08/2022 19:59

At this point in time, the people who want closed schools and kids at home are the ones who refuse to countenance any possible scheme to lessen covid spread in schools.

remiss · 27/08/2022 20:09

What has actually closed schools in the last year and a half is not the teaching unions but covid.

Would that be the last year and a half where (in Scotland) all windows and doors were open, at least 50% of time was spent outside, children were still bubbled at break and lunch, all teachers were wearing masks, 80-90% of the population was vaccinated, tests were free and readily available, and infectious children were sent home?

Where we basically did everything that list is demanding - at great expense - and it didn't seem to make a jot of difference compared to England who were following the "let it rip" policy?

youkiddingme · 27/08/2022 20:16

LockAqua · 27/08/2022 18:47

@noblegiraffe

Because, as I said, it’s not about air purifiers for the lockdown fanatics. What they want is measures like social distancing and masks to be permanent, and for regular lockdowns.

It was the same with the teaching unions- the measures they were advocating would have in fact meant schools closed for 2 years.

Who are these 'they' advocating for regular lockdowns? The only people I see banding on about it are the ones opposed to considering any kind of precaution which would reduce the impact of Covid. Some of those proposals might be sensible, some not. Nobody is advocating what you are talking about.

noblegiraffe · 27/08/2022 20:21

Do you have the data for Scotland, remiss?

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