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Schools still a covid shitshow

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noblegiraffe · 19/03/2022 12:40

"Schools have been forced to send year groups home this week because of "rapidly rising" Covid rates among staff and an inability to find supply teachers, it has emerged.

The removal of the need for Covid testing among staff and pupils was making the situation worse, with some schools now experiencing their worst absence levels of the pandemic, a headteachers' leader told Tes.

Heads warn that some schools are having to send year groups home on a rota or combine class groups in an attempt to protect exam year groups from more disruption."

www.tes.com/magazine/news/general/covid-schools-absence-send-year-groups-home-cases-spike

Some will claim that getting rid of testing would improve the situation, but clearly a situation where lots of teachers are getting ill and requiring a few days off school to recover, regardless of isolation rules, is not 'getting back to normal'.

The teachers that I know who have had covid recently would have required a few days off school despite it being 'mild' even without isolation guidance, even though teachers are well-known for dosing on Lemsip and turning up to school regardless of illness because setting cover work is worse.

Still, the covid catch-up effort has basically fizzled out, and it's looking like zero effort will be made by the government to support children in recovering their education from the impact of absences and lack of teachers.

Exams start in a couple of months for kids who are having an extremely disruptive time. The government has fixed the exam grades so that they will come out with better results than the 2019 cohort, this will basically cover up the impact on educational standards. How this will play out down the line at uni/college/sixth form is anyone's guess.

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DanglingMod · 31/03/2022 17:14

True story.

Feenie · 31/03/2022 17:22

my kids are year 11 and 10 and haven't had a single teacher off this year. They seem determined to come in to school come what may and i'm grateful for such committed teachers. The school even took them skiing to France at Feb half term (comprehensive in Liverpool before anyone things its private). Some schools seem way more capable of getting on with it than others it seems!

This has got to be wind up. I refuse to believe anyone is really this thick.

Watapalava · 31/03/2022 17:51

I guess it’s more down to attitudes and testing

In my work we are tested 3x a week

No one does it because none of us want to stay off work

Those who’ve had it haven’t been that ill where they’d need to be off

Many of us likely have it and are working unknowingly but again no disruption because we don’t test even tho we are advised to

Some people like looking for covid

Some people take the piss and want to stay at home

I don’t believe all these teacher absences are due to serious illness given they must or should be triple vax by now

It doesn’t fit the narrative of what’s happening nationwide with other adults

The ones in my work who test are the ones still terrified of covid. Seems so odd that most people now are mildly ill yet teachers are strangely on death door the way you lot carry on!

OnceuponaRainbow18 · 31/03/2022 17:54

@Watapalava

As a teacher I test regularly, not to miss school, but as my mum is ECV for 3 reasons, so as I’m around so much covid I test before I see her each week, I will not stop testing as I want to protect my mum. It’s got nothing to do with wanting to miss work. When I was off with covid from school I felt ok so was working from home, just not teaching in person

noblegiraffe · 31/03/2022 17:56

It doesn’t fit the narrative of what’s happening nationwide with other adults

But does fit the ONS data that shows that education staff are far more likely to be infected than other sectors. Data on infection rates, not testing.

Data that you keep ignoring for some weird reason to instead go off on ill-informed and totally unevidenced meanderings about how superior you are.

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Chase22 · 31/03/2022 17:57

I’m triple vaxxed, no health issues, in my forties.

Omicron put me in bed for a week, left me fatigued for a month and I lost about five pounds.

Piggywaspushed · 31/03/2022 18:04

The narrative of what's happening nationwide with other adults is that hospitalisations have risen.

CallmeHendricks · 31/03/2022 18:07

@Watapalava, Are you going out of your way to offend here?

Gingerwarthog · 31/03/2022 18:34

No Watapalava

I guess it's down to viral load and how many people you are in contact with.

I guess you are unaware that some teachers were at death's door - as over 570 educators in the UK had died of Covid as of 2021. (TES 25th January 2021).

I guess some of us don't have the luxury of being blasé about this.

toomuchlaundry · 31/03/2022 18:47

Many schools in our area were lucky with COVID for most of the pandemic. Absolutely buggered now!

I’m not a teacher and have no particular narrative, but I can truthfully say my DS is currently at home doing remote provision and will be now until the Easter Holidays as the sixth form has closed due to lack of staff.

I do not think the teachers are lazy or have done anything different to schools that have had no staff off in the last few weeks. Maybe because our area got off lightly before we are being hit harder now.

Watapalava · 31/03/2022 19:39

Would that January date be before single vax never mind triple!!!

I never said noble that teachers didn’t get it

Many professions are more at risk or getting it

I’m disputing the observation here that teachers seem to suffer more than what society is seeing generally

As for hospital admissions - 1 in 8 have covid in society so obv that translates to 1 in 8 people in hospital also having covid not actually in for covid

cantkeepawayforever · 31/03/2022 19:45

1 in 8 have covid in society so obv that translates to 1 in 8 people in hospital also having covid not actually in for covid

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60913637 has a useful graph showing with / for Covid admissions, which clearly shows a recent increase in admissions for Covid.

Many professions are more at risk or getting it
Are you sure? I understand that the data shows that school staff are disproportionately infected, compared with other professions and jobs?

phlebasconsidered · 31/03/2022 19:46

If some schools seem to be coping well it is because the staff that are in are run ragged. Today I was in at 6.45 to sort my classwork out. Normally i'd be in at 7 15 but because we have soany staff off I am doing breakfast club which means I have to get in earlier to prepare.

At break I did a duty because our one TA between 3 classes is off. I've done 3 this week. I squeezed in a wee while they were taking their coats off.

At lunch I did catch up sessions for those kids that have been off. And had a wee and a cup of soup.

After school I did SATS catch up for an hour, then marked, then planned for the class that has no teacher tomorrow in my key stage. I will do their duty tomorrow as well and manage the supply if they can get one. If they can't I will either end up with splitting classes and teaching a mixed class of 45 or a TA from a different keystage will have to be taken from them.

Then I had a meeting with the governors where I explained the impact covid has had on staff. I got home at 7.

It is utterly shit.

walksen · 31/03/2022 20:08

"yet teachers are strangely on death door the way you lot carry on"

Oh stop with the hysteria and hyperbole.

OnceuponaRainbow18 · 31/03/2022 20:12

@phlebasconsidered

You need to say no, you’re being totally taken advantage of, and by doing all this extra work it isn’t helping anyone. They’ll have to close year groups rather than kill off the staff they have left.

Don’t do it, it’s not worth risking your own mental and physical health.

Lilaclavenders · 31/03/2022 20:24

The narrative of what's happening nationwide with other adults is that hospitalisations have risen.

I read on bbc that currently more than half of all hospital admissions of covid cases are actually not DUE to covid..!

CallmeHendricks · 31/03/2022 20:26

I'd like to know if @watapalava acknowledges Phleba's commitment.

MrsHamlet · 31/03/2022 20:27

I read on bbc that currently more than half of all hospital admissions of covid cases are actually not DUE to covid..!
My friend who is in hospital with covid is there because she is in remission and she now needs IV medication because of the covid she caught at work. In school. That's DUE to covid.

Lilaclavenders · 31/03/2022 20:30

Yes, then your friend is one of those in hospital DUE to covid. But more than 50% of all admissions are apparently for other health problems (and those patients happen to also test positive).

Hope your friend recovers quickly,

CallmeHendricks · 31/03/2022 20:32

And medics (e.g. Dr Hillary Jones on GMB) have said that "with" vs "of" Covid is an unhelpful distinction, as there are many people whose existing health conditions, otherwise well-managed, have been adversely affected by Covid, as with MrsHamlet's friend above. They are just as worthy of mention as everyone else as, all other things being equal, they lead "normal" lives.

MrsHamlet · 31/03/2022 20:32

Me too.
I'm sure if she'd been more committed, she'd be teaching from her hospital bed.

CallmeHendricks · 31/03/2022 20:33

"But more than 50% of all admissions are apparently for other health problems (and those patients happen to also test positive)."
Do you have a direct link to where that distinction is made?

CallmeHendricks · 31/03/2022 20:33

Not that I think it matters. Anyone in hospital WITH Covid is still a risk to staff and other patients.

Wizzbangfizz · 31/03/2022 20:34

@noblegiraffe I work in the media so have a fair idea how it works and how and why things are covered. I don't buy the narrative being pedalled on here that there is a great government led cover up Hmm

toomuchlaundry · 31/03/2022 20:36

The media were great at showing misleading photos about schools throughout the pandemic.

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