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Schools still a covid shitshow

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noblegiraffe · 19/03/2022 12:40

"Schools have been forced to send year groups home this week because of "rapidly rising" Covid rates among staff and an inability to find supply teachers, it has emerged.

The removal of the need for Covid testing among staff and pupils was making the situation worse, with some schools now experiencing their worst absence levels of the pandemic, a headteachers' leader told Tes.

Heads warn that some schools are having to send year groups home on a rota or combine class groups in an attempt to protect exam year groups from more disruption."

www.tes.com/magazine/news/general/covid-schools-absence-send-year-groups-home-cases-spike

Some will claim that getting rid of testing would improve the situation, but clearly a situation where lots of teachers are getting ill and requiring a few days off school to recover, regardless of isolation rules, is not 'getting back to normal'.

The teachers that I know who have had covid recently would have required a few days off school despite it being 'mild' even without isolation guidance, even though teachers are well-known for dosing on Lemsip and turning up to school regardless of illness because setting cover work is worse.

Still, the covid catch-up effort has basically fizzled out, and it's looking like zero effort will be made by the government to support children in recovering their education from the impact of absences and lack of teachers.

Exams start in a couple of months for kids who are having an extremely disruptive time. The government has fixed the exam grades so that they will come out with better results than the 2019 cohort, this will basically cover up the impact on educational standards. How this will play out down the line at uni/college/sixth form is anyone's guess.

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Lilaclavenders · 31/03/2022 08:48

There are kids in school who have caught it twice within a month!

That is very unlikely to happen. Very very unlucky!

mistyoak · 31/03/2022 09:25

@Watapalava

Your teachers are undoubtedly dedicated… but their full attendance is most likely sheer LUCK! You cannot choose whether you get ill with Covid. If only! Equally you can’t choose how ill you get, and whether or not you get Long Covid. Teachers are vastly over represented in this group too.

If we want our schools to stay open an teaching then it’s logical to have a better plan than they currently have.

And for those schools and or areas where Covid is rife - just STOP the bloody group singing events FFS!

Tynetime · 31/03/2022 10:24

Well @Watapalava we are having the opposite. My year 13 DD has yet another Teacher off today. These Teachers are not workshy shirkers but unfortunately they have pre existing conditions or are older and are not robots. Several have had COVID. Indeed one of her two Teachers in a subject was a supply and after contracting COVID never came back. That is 4 lessons in a subject lost. The other subject teacher is run ragged trying to make up teo of the lessons but it is a terrible situation .
I would say your children snd their Teachers are very fortunate.

CallmeHendricks · 31/03/2022 10:38

So, @Watapalava, are you alleging that those "committed" teachers have been attending school when Covid positive? It's beyond unlikely that none of them has been affected by this global pandemic that is hitting millions of others, so how could they be attending work as usual otherwise?
Or is your claim nonsense?

Shinyandnew1 · 31/03/2022 10:40

If watapalavas child’s teaching has been wholly unaffected by Covid absence but thousands of other children have, this is hugely unequal.

Lilaclavenders · 31/03/2022 11:09

Our local schools seem to be coping very well, with hardly any absences and certainly no closures of any classes.

It seems much more of a problem on this Covid thread than in real life. In my experience anyway - maybe we're just lucky?!

Lilaclavenders · 31/03/2022 11:11

My dc are in exam years and the schools have been absolutely brilliant in prioritising years 11 and 13. As a parent I'm very pleased and thankful to the teachers and head.

mrshoho · 31/03/2022 11:17

Yes count yourself very lucky @Lilaclavenders. You are insinuating that there is no problem in real life and it is only a problem to those on this thread. Fgs how ignorant. We are not making this up. Did you see the link Noblegiraffe posted wrt what Headteachers are experiencing?

CallmeHendricks · 31/03/2022 11:18

"It seems much more of a problem on this Covid thread than in real life. In my experience anyway - maybe we're just lucky?!"

What are you suggesting? That people on here are lying?

Wizzbangfizz · 31/03/2022 11:47

Strange isn't it @Lilaclavenders I pointed out similar upthread. You would also think it would be on the national news.

Sherrystrull · 31/03/2022 12:12

@Lilaclavenders

Our local schools seem to be coping very well, with hardly any absences and certainly no closures of any classes.

It seems much more of a problem on this Covid thread than in real life. In my experience anyway - maybe we're just lucky?!

I'll repeat what I said earlier. Our school hasn't had to close year groups but the staff are massively stretched and overworked covering to make it look normal for the children.

When I went to hospital for an appointment I wasn't aware of staff shortages or the impact of covid as all the staff were professional and helpful. The same goes for schools.

Hummmmming · 31/03/2022 12:17

My sons secondary has year 7, 8 and 9 on a rotating 1 day at home rota from now until Easter this means next week my 11 year old will be at home for 2 days out of 5, I work in FE in my area we have had to cancel 24 sessions of teaching today as I have 6 staff off sick. I can only see this getting worse as no testing will result in more infections in schools and colleges.

Shinyandnew1 · 31/03/2022 12:25

@Wizzbangfizz

Strange isn't it *@Lilaclavenders* I pointed out similar upthread. You would also think it would be on the national news.
It’s almost as if the national news was in the pocket of the government, isn’t it?
BustopherPonsonbyJones · 31/03/2022 13:00

I am not being facetious but if you genuinely have no staff absences in your schools, I really hope your areas are being investigated. I would like this to be true as it would suggest there is a way out of the issues we are facing - no schools I know (and I have a lot of teacher friends around the country) have faced anything but disaster mode this academic year. That’s a mix of primary and secondary; state and private too.

I know that the authorities (not quite sure who I’m talking about here so I’ll use a general term) do take an interest in outliers and anomalies. We had lots of cases at one point in the pandemic and reinfections in the area went through the roof. When I mentioned this on the Covid boards, I had some very sneery responses asking if we were being investigated. We were! I hope @Lilaclavenders and @Watapalava’s areas are also being scrutinised as it really would be amazing to have zero cases of Covid and no disruption again.

CallmeHendricks · 31/03/2022 13:23

What I suspect is that some schools are just putting a lot into masking the issues they're facing. The most pressing issue is to get adults in front of classes, whoever those adults might be. Sometimes the children will be aware of it, but many will not notice is as being particularly out-of-the-ordinary.
Of course, what this masks from most parents (and children) is the knock-on effect on 1:1 provision, interventions, planning and management time, all of which suffer as well but aren't so immediately visible.
Teachers on here have been explaining these issues for a long time now. How about taking their word for it instead of trying to discredit them by implying they're workshy and only keen to take unnecessary time off school?

noblegiraffe · 31/03/2022 14:07

@Wizzbangfizz

Strange isn't it *@Lilaclavenders* I pointed out similar upthread. You would also think it would be on the national news.
Someone really hasn't been paying attention to what makes the news or not, or considered why.

I wonder why the press would fail to highlight the thousands of students being sent home or receiving an inadequate education due to lack of teaching staff when instead they could talk about how 'covid is over'.

It's a bit of a contrast to last summer when there was lots of airtime being given to the number of students missing school because the agenda in that case was 'get rid of close contact isolation'.

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Walkaround · 31/03/2022 14:50

@Lilaclavenders

There are kids in school who have caught it twice within a month!

That is very unlikely to happen. Very very unlucky!

Not that unlikely - omicron sub-variants BA1 and BA2 are different enough that you can catch the latter pretty soon after having had the former. Seems to be quite an issue in pre-schools in our area, more than in the primaries or secondaries. www.news-medical.net/news/20220224/Omicron-BA-2-reinfections-can-occur-shortly-following-BA1-infection.aspx
TooManyPlatesInMotion · 31/03/2022 15:52

Primary schools in my bit of London are also in chaos and have been fr a while. Ye still we are putting kids and teachers through Sats. Sad

OnceuponaRainbow18 · 31/03/2022 16:35

@Lilaclavenders

We’ve got teachers getting it this week who had it 5 weeks ago

twinkletoesimnot · 31/03/2022 16:36

My dd's school has had to close tomorrow.
They are down to one normal teacher. (Out of 4)
The head has tested positive this afternoon.

CallmeHendricks · 31/03/2022 16:37

Twice in one term, @OnceuponaRainbow18?

Not very "committed" of them! Wink

mrshoho · 31/03/2022 16:51

Suspect they were partying no doubt. Careless teachers 🤭

Sherrystrull · 31/03/2022 16:58

I don't think medical staff, or care home staff, or supermarket staff or Police officers are careless or not committed if they catch covid. It beggars belief that there are people who think this.

DanglingMod · 31/03/2022 16:59

We've lots of students, their primary siblings and parents, and staff who've had it twice since Christmas. It's very feasible.

BeenToldComputerSaysNo · 31/03/2022 17:00

If only they'd exercised some personal responsibility. Wink