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Schools still a covid shitshow

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noblegiraffe · 19/03/2022 12:40

"Schools have been forced to send year groups home this week because of "rapidly rising" Covid rates among staff and an inability to find supply teachers, it has emerged.

The removal of the need for Covid testing among staff and pupils was making the situation worse, with some schools now experiencing their worst absence levels of the pandemic, a headteachers' leader told Tes.

Heads warn that some schools are having to send year groups home on a rota or combine class groups in an attempt to protect exam year groups from more disruption."

www.tes.com/magazine/news/general/covid-schools-absence-send-year-groups-home-cases-spike

Some will claim that getting rid of testing would improve the situation, but clearly a situation where lots of teachers are getting ill and requiring a few days off school to recover, regardless of isolation rules, is not 'getting back to normal'.

The teachers that I know who have had covid recently would have required a few days off school despite it being 'mild' even without isolation guidance, even though teachers are well-known for dosing on Lemsip and turning up to school regardless of illness because setting cover work is worse.

Still, the covid catch-up effort has basically fizzled out, and it's looking like zero effort will be made by the government to support children in recovering their education from the impact of absences and lack of teachers.

Exams start in a couple of months for kids who are having an extremely disruptive time. The government has fixed the exam grades so that they will come out with better results than the 2019 cohort, this will basically cover up the impact on educational standards. How this will play out down the line at uni/college/sixth form is anyone's guess.

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Eyedropeyeflop · 06/04/2022 07:49

I appreciate that. That is why I’ve always said some and not all.

Some very complex issues in the shit show that is Ed, and some very similar going’s on in the structure of healthcare. But I think just blaming all the disruption/general shit show on covid is a smoke screen for the government. Staffing and retention was awful prior to 2020. Kids getting taught by unqualified staff etc etc.

I hear parents now just blaming everything on covid under the illusion it was all fine and dandy prior to 2020.

Piggywaspushed · 06/04/2022 07:52

You are still painting a picture to any lay readers of teaching as an absenteeism profession, reasons aside. This isn't accurate.

MrsHamlet · 06/04/2022 07:56

I appreciate that. That is why I’ve always said some and not all.
See, I don't think you do. Your posts generally take the tone that teachers are always looking for a chance to skive off.

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 06/04/2022 08:06

I agree, @mumsneedwine. Everything suggests there is a problem but the easiest solution for the government is to ignore it and let those at the coal face take the brunt of dealing with the issues they and their policies have caused. And now it’s the Easter holidays so we can all pretend it’s okay (until everyone comes back from sitting on crowded planes with whatever variant is doing the rounds in Austria or Spain).

mrshoho · 06/04/2022 08:10

Most people posting on here are very aware of the issues within schools and our education system that existed pre covid. Your posts are just weird in my mind. If you have such an in depth awareness of how difficult teaching is, why do you dismiss the effects that covid has had/is having on them? Weird?

borntobequiet · 06/04/2022 08:21

Teaching is not an easy job. Like many other difficult jobs, it can affect the mental and physical health of those who do it.
To use this to dismiss Covid as not being a significant extra burden for school staff to bear, to deliberately play down the risks for staff in school during this ongoing pandemic and to imply that some staff might welcome it as an excuse to not go into work is a deliberate attempt to denigrate the whole profession, despite its paucity as any sort of argument for the situation in schools not actually being a Covid shitshow.

herecomesthsun · 06/04/2022 08:26

@Piggywaspushed

You are still painting a picture to any lay readers of teaching as an absenteeism profession, reasons aside. This isn't accurate.
No, our school needs to encourage staff to take time out when ill, rather than the other way round (very conscientious staff who get in at 7 etc)
Piggywaspushed · 06/04/2022 09:04

Many many parents of older children are sufficiently worried about actual Covid to be deeply concerned about the upcoming exam season, and the consequences of few days an absence to their child . The commonsense approach means students either missing exams, or struggling through them feeling unwell. This will be a significantly bigger problem than in a standard exam year when hay fever is the biggest concern...

DanglingMod · 06/04/2022 09:16

And there is a significant possibility of some schools not having enough invigilators to run exams...

mrshoho · 06/04/2022 09:23

Yes I'm a parent of a 15 year old about to sit GCSEs. He had covid at the beginning of February and recovered after a week. He's got a lingering cough and hasn't played basketball or gone to the gym since as he says he's too tired after school. I'm worried about re infection as he is still waiting to get his 2nd vaccine. His mocks results have been ok and his school is doing the best to support y11s with extra lessons but the uncertainty is worrying. I was worried about his high absence rate this year but at his recent parent meeting I was told his is in fact better than the school average. We had the GCSE timetable and his last exam is 23rd
June. Counting down the days!

noblegiraffe · 06/04/2022 09:25

At the same time, Nadhim Zahawi is ignoring letters from the headteachers’ unions begging for support with this

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4522721-Is-Nadhim-Zahawi-as-incompetent-as-Sir-Gavin-Williamson

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mrshoho · 06/04/2022 09:48

Thank you for sharing that letter. All parents should read it. Would anyone blame school leaders for wanting to step down given what's been continually dumped on them. Are we going to end up with schools being led by people with limited (or no) teaching experience? Is this what the Tory vision for schools looks like?

hiredandsqueak · 06/04/2022 09:52

@Gingerwarthog I think that might be dependent on LA's as special schools in our LA closed to all children. The only provision our LA made for those children were weekly checking in phone calls. Friends with children with PMLD had no support and none of the therapies either. A friend had to force the LA to provide the Physiotherapy through independent providers at home whilst her child's school was closed even so her child missed months of input which had a detrimental effect on health. My dd was one of the lucky ones as her independent specialist school only closed for two weeks whilst they worked out how to accommodate the children safely.

BeenToldComputerSaysNo · 06/04/2022 16:11

Teachers, kids, education. All too dispensable. At least that's the message I get from govt.

Tynetime · 06/04/2022 16:51

@cantkeepawayforever yes put Doctors have for last 14 days said only speak to us if urgent as they are so short staffed. It is not as if they are seeing many people anyway as you rarely make it past triage before being fobbed off

Gingerwarthog · 06/04/2022 17:26

@hiredandsqueak
Sorry to hear your friend had that experience.
It's the last thing anyone in our school would want for a parent.

hiredandsqueak · 06/04/2022 17:58

@gingerwarthog It was criminal but not the schools' fault it was LA directive. They didn't consider needs at all, I was in the bizarre situation of having weekly check in phone calls by dint of dd having a specialist school named on her EHCP where she was in school full time (as were every other child in her school whose parent wanted them there)

Gingerwarthog · 06/04/2022 18:13

@hiredandsqueak
I don't understand why an LA would make that decision as Government direction was clear that children with EHCPs should be able to attend.
I understand that some rotas would be necessary to limit risk or accommodate for staff illness/ isolating due to health conditions though.

hiredandsqueak · 06/04/2022 18:24

Our LA are a law unto themselves, certainly they ignore their statutory duty at every given opportunity. Children with EHCP's in mainstream didn't automatically get school places either, the LA seemed completely oblivious to Government direction.

As I said dd went to school (out of County) but she was one of very few among many families I know who received any provision. The generic special schools closed even before lockdown was announced around here.

Gingerwarthog · 06/04/2022 18:47

Really sorry to hear that. A whole different thread could be on the shameful experiences if parents battling to get an appropriate education for their child with additional needs. Thanks

Itisasecret · 06/04/2022 20:50

I’ll always be shocked at the posters on here. So happy to sacrifice their own children’s health so they could post on MN all day.

Right now, the HSA are urgently investigating a sudden rise of liver damage in children. They are asking parents to be vigilant and keep an eye out for jaundice. People were happy to let their children go in to schools, unprotected with no care for how many times they caught Covid. How many times has the “it’s swept through so it will be ok” has been proven wrong.

Maybe those chickens are coming home to roost. I can never forgive this government for for what they’ve done to the children. At every turn they have been the one making sacrifices.

OnceuponaRainbow18 · 06/04/2022 20:53

@Itisasecret

People were happy to let their children go in to schools, unprotected with no care for how many times they caught Covid. How many times has the “it’s swept through so it will be ok” has been proven wrong.

I wouldn’t say happy but realistically what’s the other option?

noblegiraffe · 06/04/2022 21:13

The government could have put in place proper funding for proper ventilation, which we know helps stop the spread? I mean, people, are talking now about how awful it is to be cold in your own home because you can't afford to put the heating on and yet children have been shivering in classrooms all winter because there was no funding for extra heating and the windows were open.

They could have not arsed up the vaccine roll-out to 12-15 year olds - it cut down on transmission in secondary schools but could have protected more kids and sooner. And primary kids have only just been offered the vaccine - a bit late now they've just all had covid so can't have it.

The govt could also keep testing in place.

There were and are options beyond the shitshow.

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Itisasecret · 06/04/2022 21:24

[quote OnceuponaRainbow18]@Itisasecret

People were happy to let their children go in to schools, unprotected with no care for how many times they caught Covid. How many times has the “it’s swept through so it will be ok” has been proven wrong.

I wouldn’t say happy but realistically what’s the other option?[/quote]
That’s not a serious question surely? There are many options, many. N0 one gave a shit as long as their children weren’t in their own house. Parents turned a blind eye for the most part. Not all, many did.

OnceuponaRainbow18 · 06/04/2022 21:26

@Itisasecret

It is, as clearly changes weren’t going to be made, so we just keep them home indefinitely?

I worked throughout so my kids had to go in anyway but it’s unrealistic to think we were happy sending them in, especially during the first lockdown when we didn’t know much about it and I was jealous of my friends who could keep their kids homes safe.