All Covid rules to be scrapped at end of the month!

[Cheekypeach]

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My colleagues used to come into work with sickness bugs while they were still throwing up every few hours!

And we all know the mums who dose their really poorly children up with Calpol before school so they don’t get sent home.

One boy came to DD’s birthday party after having been sick all night (‘oh he’s fine now’). Two days later, six out of her ten guests were ill with D&V.

Attitudes really do need to change. It has never been ok to go out and about and merrily mingle with others while you’re ill with a contagious virus. I was hoping Covid would make people more aware and it would become the norm to protect others. From reading this thread, sadly that doesn’t seem to be the case.

@BonnesVacances I’m sorry about your DD. The thing is, whilst I care about the vulnerable, I care about my own family more. I care about my DC having to miss nursery, isolate and have a stick shoved up her nose when she doesn’t have a clue what’s going on for every little cough and cold she gets. I care that for her whole life all she’s seen are people in masks when out, and that there’s still some family she hasn’t been able to meet yet. I care that I will lose my job and ability to provide for her if I keep having to take time off whenever she has a cold waiting for test results.

I don’t think it’s selfish to want normality for my family and to care about my family more. If it were, I could easily turn this around and say it is selfish for people to want others to continually have their lives disrupted and livelihoods ruined to protect their own family. That is putting their family first. Everyone will do that as it’s human nature.

That’s absolutely vile @Schulte

Someone came to my child’s 1st birthday (just a little at home thing) and gave us all d&v. Had to call an ambulance for our 1 year old who I think was choking on her sick, absolutely terrifying. She wasn’t breathing. She was ok thank goodness and did a massive puke up whilst the paramedic was here, but some people are so beyond stupid and selfish aren’t they.

I don’t think ‘life is going back to normal’ btw. Lots of places will insist on keeping some restrictions, and quite right too. The pandemic isn’t over just because Boris says so.

It seems to be the isolation that everyone is pleased to be getting rid of. Treating Covid like other infectious diseases. That was always going to be the outcome once we had vaccines.

The thing I don't agree with is stopping mask use in hospitals and GPs. People who work in these places and other patients should be protected in places where highly infectious people are being/seeking treated.

So what was the point of fucking the economy into the ground and causing multiple mental health issues if we can now just let it rip through the population? Please don't say 'vaccines' because this shit continued long after there were vaccines.

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I feel for the vulnerable but covid isn't the only disease out there that could affect them. People vulnerable to covid are also potentially vulnerable to flu, sickness bugs, chicken pox, colds. Covid is part of life now and I'm sorry for people who don't feel safe with that but it's not going away.

It seems a typically 'gung-ho' ploy by the Govt, not currently backed up by the science (from what I've read). And rather precipitous. They could have waited until the warmer weather arrives, surely?

Indeed. With a bit of luck karma will do its thing and those who don't give a shit about the vulnerable will become one themselves one day

Am I reading this correctly? You're wishing long-term illness on people who are pleased that restrictions are ending?

Indeed. With a bit of luck karma will do its thing and those who don't give a shit about the vulnerable will become one themselves one day

This is a disgusting comment to wish illness on people.

Not great if you or someone you love is CEV though.
Virus could still mutate into something more dangerous again too

@SparkleTwinkle101

It's scary for those of us who are vulnerable especially loosing the comfort that those in their most infectious wouldn't be spreading covid around an unventilated office. It's also putting pressure on those who actually do get sick to still come into work even if they are feeling too unwell to do so

The thing is, they were out spreading it anyway, because so many people who has Omincron didn't realise, or they couldn't afford to isolate. Tim Spector estimates the number of infections were over double that of the number of people isolating.

I get that it seems a bit scary initially to suddenly stop isolating but it does have to stop at some point it's not sustainable at all to keep doing this indefinitely. So genuinely if not now, when? We will never have zero covid, ever, its an unobtainable objective, so now seems as good a time as any.

@hestershaw1

Thebpoint being is if the risk of contracting covid in your town was 25% with 50 % infectious people isolating if no one is isolating the risk is double. Then when it spreads like crazy and rather then double the numbers are infected to previous week the risk doubles again and so on

Omicron is less deadly than the flu.

@Skilovingmama

So what was the point of fucking the economy into the ground and causing multiple mental health issues if we can now just let it rip through the population? Please don't say 'vaccines' because this shit continued long after there were vaccines.

Vaccines, reliable understanding of the severity of Omicron, widespread natural immunity and anti-viral drugs for the CEV. Vaccines are good enough for most of the population, but until the people for whom they weren't good enough had access to drugs to bring their risk down as well it wasn't reasonable to open up.

I think it's a fair point that the risk of Covid no longer justifies the draconian measure of legal quarantine enforced with criminal sanctions. But leaping from that to "it's over hurrah!" as the media has done is unreasonable. We still need guidelines, and to take them seriously.

@wellbythebloodyhell

How about after the CEV children have had both doses of vaccines. 5 to 11 yr old can now have this a few have had first dose many are due first dose this month. 2nd dose and protection should have been done by all by end of april or early May. Surely after 2 years an extra 2 months would have been doable to protect the bloody children.

People sure are happy ro use children as a reason to stop restrictions bit i guess actually bunerably to covid children are disposible

@cheekypeach

Source?

And no I won’t be testing my toddler again unless there is some kind of exceptional need to do so. Having someone hold her down while she screams as I shove a plastic stick up her nose every few weeks has been hideous, to the point where she becomes hysterical just driving past the testing site.

There have always been vulnerable people, it’s for them to assess their risks individually and mitigate them, not for the whole of society to live under restrictions.

@Cheekypeach

Omicron is less deadly than the flu.

Citation needed. The sources I trust say that it's about twice as lethal for the well-vaccinated UK population if you catch it, plus, crucially, about five times as infectious. mobile.twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1488084585527324672

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www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/01/covid-really-deadly-flu-omicron-came-along/

@Overthebow

Indeed. With a bit of luck karma will do its thing and those who don't give a shit about the vulnerable will become one themselves one day

This is a disgusting comment to wish illness on people.

On a thread of well yeah the vulnerable but so what, that's the comment you pick up on?

But if it's disgusting that I wish illness and karma on those who don't care if others are permanently disabled by catching an illness which they could help prevent by wearing a mask and not deliberately passing on a harmful virus, so be it. Really couldn't give a shit tbh.

I genuinely would like to hear what vulnerable people would prefer instead? I can't claim to walk in your shoes, I've got no health conditions and have not even had covid. What would your ideal 'normal' look like now?

I do appreciate that it's not fair, but I can't envisage how life and the economy can go on much longer with current restrictions.

As an aide though, I wonder if covid will have the positive effect of having all of us think more about 'others'. We've all had to change our actions radically to protect the vulnerable for 2 years, so perhaps going forward we'll start to think more about the disabled, blind, hearing impaired, those with learning disabilities, any of the vulnerable groups that we've as a society largely overlooked the practical needs of thus far. (Just as an example, tube stations are obviously a nightmare for wheelchair users, but they work for the majority and they're useful so it's generally accepted that we just 🤷🏼‍♀️ and carry on and wheelchair users must make a different plan for themselves).

I don't think it is a cause for celebration and gloating, which is just nasty for people who are vulnerable and scared. I do think overall it is the right decision. I know people who are vulnerable who have ruined their lives over the last 2 years, got covid anyway, and now wish they hadn't bothered (post-vaccination at least, I think it was different in the early days). My own son caught covid early and was pretty much asymptomatic. But the restrictions put in during the pandemic have ruined his mental health. Possibly for good. The law of unintended consequences is strong , and restrictions do all kind of harm. Super Freakonomics covers this subject very well.