End of isolation

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Boris Johnson has indicated the requirement to isolate after a positive Covid test will be scrapped at the end of this month. All I can say is about time too! Let's get back to life.

@Nidan2Sandan

It's hard to isolate 24/7 without support to enable that

BINGO! Yes, you're right. It is hard to isolate without support and yet we are asking people up and down the country, many of whom arent even unwell, to do just that!!!

Glad to see you've just cottoned on as to why the isolation system now has to end, as its doing more harm than good.

For what 10 days? I'm talking 2 years and from the looks of it, for a lot longer yet

That's the difference!

Ten days with no pay

Kids to feed etc

I am scared tbh.

I am scared of long covid (too many poeple affected so much so that BUSINESSES are starting to say it's an issue)

I am worried that it will mean HCW who are contagious with covid will end up treating very vulnerable patients (chemo patients etc...)

I am worried that people will be pushed to go baclk to work asap 'because its just a cold' when for a lot of people it isn't (and then they take months and months to actually recover).

Basically, I think it hasnt been thought through.

@Nidan2Sandan

It's hard to isolate 24/7 without support to enable that

BINGO! Yes, you're right. It is hard to isolate without support and yet we are asking people up and down the country, many of whom arent even unwell, to do just that!!!

Glad to see you've just cottoned on as to why the isolation system now has to end, as its doing more harm than good.

What you are saying though is that our system is utter rubbish and we can't cope with itbrather than there is no need to have some self isolation period on a health pov.

There are two different things.

But yes our system is crap. Like it always is when it comes to support people that need some help (Im thinking disabiokity benefits etc etc). It's just that now that veeryone can be affected by it and is suffering as a result, it suddenly becomes unacceptable.
I would have preferred to see the £1b wasted in unusable PPE that have lined tory pockets to be used to support workers that needed to self isolate tbh.

Isn’t there an Omicron B and if you’ve had A you can still get B. And viral load in schools will be high as many pupils aren’t vaccinated

For what 10 days? I'm talking 2 years confused and from the looks of it, for a lot longer yet

Do you mean you’ve been staying home even when restrictions were in place and /or cases were low?

What would you need to happen to change this - what stage are you waiting for

I’m pretty torn if I’m honest. I’ll be glad to get back to some more normality.

However I like to travel and my selfish concern is that due to this strategy other countries will require expensive tests and quarantine before they let me in.

Also, I feel sad for the huge numbers of vulnerable people we are condemning to long term isolation. People on here complain about how difficult it is to isolate for ten days as a reason why isolation should be scrapped but give no thought to the vulnerable who have effectively lived like this for two years.

I’m not sure what the answer is really. It’s a difficult one.

I would have preferred to see the £1b wasted in unusable PPE that have lined tory pockets to be used to support workers that needed to self isolate tbh

I expect most of us would, TheApex, but as you suggested yourself here's no profit to be made out of simply giving the money to those most in need

However I like to travel and my selfish concern is that due to this strategy other countries will require expensive tests and quarantine before they let me in.

I wonder if it'll make much difference. This is evidently the direction of travel in Europe, we aren't the first and won't be the last. Countries that place a lot of reliance on European tourism will probably respond to this.

I don't doubt that some countries will maintain strict requirements for UK residents or bar us altogether, but as Omicron has been everywhere in the UK even while we've had isolation, that alone would likely deter more worried countries from letting us in without strict measures.

@Puzzledandpissedoff

I would have preferred to see the £1b wasted in unusable PPE that have lined tory pockets to be used to support workers that needed to self isolate tbh

I expect most of us would, TheApex, but as you suggested yourself here's no profit to be made out of simply giving the money to those most in need

Well I dont think I am asking even that much tbh. Just doing things legally would have been nice.

And stopping with the constant lies.
Like avoiding telling us how the UK government is doing so much, is amazing at supporting workers and whatnot when it actually isn't compare to other EU countries.

We have lower cases than many countries in Europe so even with this it isn’t likely to affect travel

Also, I feel sad for the huge numbers of vulnerable people we are condemning to long term isolation. People on here complain about how difficult it is to isolate for ten days as a reason why isolation should be scrapped but give no thought to the vulnerable who have effectively lived like this for two years.

Yep.
It always looks wonderful when you are not one of those people who are CV.

I dont think I am asking even that much tbh. Just doing things legally would have been nice
And stopping with the constant lies

A nice thought indeed, but unfortunately they're politicians and this kind of goes with the territory

Haven't many commenters here worked in zero hour contract jobs, or ones with no sick pay, or ones where you're under immense pressure not to take time off?

It would be bad enough if this was condemning CV people to isolation. It's even worse than that because it's condemning them to potential long-term illness or death. Because how many people can afford to isolate indefinitely? They'll have to go into unsafe workplaces.

The way to solve this is for government to support anyone with Covid for the time they have to isolate. That way cases fall, and, most importantly, long Covid cases fall.
This is so short-sighted. Already there are well over a million people who can't work because of long Covid complications. That number will soar once isolation is restricted.

I love how a tiny minority are calling the rest of us selfish for being happy we're getting back to normal.

"unfortunately they're politicians and this kind of goes with the territory"

This is something we have to stop accepting, too.
Not all politicians lie. Quite a lot of them genuinely go into it to help. None of the current cabinet fall into that category. But saying "they're all the same" isn't helpful.

1. Because it's not true.
2. It stops us holding them to account.

There are better politicians out there. There are better parties. We can do something, we can reward the people who aren't sociopaths by voting every time and by voting with a lot of care, and tactically.

Very unlikely to get Omicron twice...

I very much hope that’s true. But I think that may be just wishful thinking unless people can back up with data? I thought they just don’t know.

Already there are well over a million people who can't work because of long Covid complications
And benefits are getting harder to access

@DoctorSnortles

Fucking marvellous. Schools will continue to be great fun to work in. All the folk who talk about how 'the poor children have suffered enough' let's see how you like it when teaching staff drop like flies and your precious moppets are back to remote learning.

This

@ItsSnowJokes

Let's see how many people who get seriously ill from something other than covid feel when their heathcare professionals are treating them with covid, no ppe etc....... I wouldn't want me or a loved one of mine to be having surgery or chemo with a covid positive Dr would you? Midwife delivering your baby is covid positive would you care?

You or a loved one may not be vulnerable now but who knows what the future holds?

And this

Fucking marvellous. Schools will continue to be great fun to work in. All the folk who talk about how 'the poor children have suffered enough' let's see how you like it when teaching staff drop like flies and your precious moppets are back to remote learning.

This is unlikely

I wonder how many severely immune suppressed / immune compromised teachers there actually are? It’s “only” 0.5 million of the adult population. I don’t think we can make one policy for the small number of teachers. I’m only mentioning teachers because it always get raised on these threads.

Within that 0.5 million people, some people will be way more vulnerable than others. We know, for example, blood cancers put people at significant risk. My condition has seen me admitted to ICU numerous times. I decompensate very quickly due to poor reserves. I know others with my condition who’ve never even been in hospital. Therefore, I absolutely don’t expect different treatment or a blanket rule for me.

I am concerned for my own health but I’m always concerned. I’ll just make sure I’ve got a good mask and that I act quickly if I do think I have Covid.

*For what 10 days? I'm talking 2 yearsand from the looks of it, for a lot longer yet

That's the difference!*

Why only 2 years? If you're vulnerable to covid, you're vulnerable to everything and should have been isolating before covid was a "thing".

And let me get this straight, just because it sucks for you, it should suck for everyone? People should not get paid for 10 days because you want them to feel as bad as you have had to?

Seems a very selfish attitude to have tbh.

Almost everyone I know who's had covid recently has been actually ill for a week or more (and no, they are not skiving - some of them are self-employed people whose business has lost quite a bit of money when they were unable to work for two weeks). More covid positive people out and about will just lead to more cases. It is definitely not true that everyone just has a bit of a sniffle or is asymptomatic. We can just as well start allowing kids with D&V to go to school, as we no longer care about illness.

Absolutely brilliant news. Scrap all restrictions and policy and get on with life living with covid.