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No isolation when covid positive in March

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Whathefisgoingon · 30/01/2022 18:19

I just cannot get my head around this.

As far as I know, no other country has announced this.

For two years they’ve told us that it’s dangerous and now they’re prepared to send me to work directly next to someone infected with covid?

I had always believed it should be more socially acceptable to simply stay home when sick, as too many feel forced in to work with flu etc, but this takes the biscuit.

I understand we need to find a way to get back to some kind of normal but this seems extreme.

Will this really happen in less than 2 months!?

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Spudina · 30/01/2022 22:51

@AnEpisodeOfEastenders but my patients are CEV. They have blood cancers and the research shows they don’t have great responses to the vaccines because of their impaired immune systems. A lot of them are still not seeing anyone or doing anything as they are too frightened. They have lived this way for two years. And this plan is just throwing them under the bus frankly.

Tealightsandd · 30/01/2022 22:51

so they haven't cottoned on to sharing test pics or re-using same ones for multiple pictures?

Plus ca change.

Criminals breaking safety regulations and putting other people at risk is as old as time.

No different to when someone with several points on their licence is caught on camera speeding and gets a partner, spouse, or friend to take the blame.

Crime happens. Doesn't make it right.

Merriwicks · 30/01/2022 22:53

@Seriouslymole

Ok - this has made me really rethink things because I am very Iaissez-faire about Covid and will be delighted to see the end of mask wearing, testing and isolation, am thoroughly against legally required vaccination etc - however, if I had a 0.4 % chance of shitting myself I would absolutely probably invest in incontinence pants. Now I don’t know what to think about my view of Covid.
Lol thanks for this, in a thread of fighting and making me quite sad, you made me laugh out loud.
ShallWeTalkAboutBruno · 30/01/2022 22:53

@Tealightsandd

so they haven't cottoned on to sharing test pics or re-using same ones for multiple pictures?

Plus ca change.

Criminals breaking safety regulations and putting other people at risk is as old as time.

No different to when someone with several points on their licence is caught on camera speeding and gets a partner, spouse, or friend to take the blame.

Crime happens. Doesn't make it right.

Faking a lateral flow picture is a criminal offence? Wow, I didn’t realise, can you point me to the legislation?
PinkPiranha11 · 30/01/2022 22:54

Good. About time. Denmark are doing this, am sure other sensible Scandi countries will follow. Covid made me desperately want to live in Sweden, their approach was great and their outcomes no worse than ours.

Tealightsandd · 30/01/2022 22:56

[quote Spudina]@AnEpisodeOfEastenders but my patients are CEV. They have blood cancers and the research shows they don’t have great responses to the vaccines because of their impaired immune systems. A lot of them are still not seeing anyone or doing anything as they are too frightened. They have lived this way for two years. And this plan is just throwing them under the bus frankly.[/quote]
I mean, even putting aside the issue of self isolation, all this talk of 'opening up'.

Hmmm, yeah well one would think people might want to embrace simple and easy mitigations - that would make this more possible. Masks and good ventilation. But there you go.

Newbabynewhouse · 30/01/2022 22:56

@WineGetsMeThroughIt

If you were told you had a 0.4% chance of shitting your pants this year, would you wear a nappy and stay home for the rest of your life? No. You'd suck if up and accept that you had a 99.6% chance of being perfectly fine and go on with the rest of your life

Good point however, I'd risk shitting my pants as its not the same as dying...

AnEpisodeOfEastenders · 30/01/2022 22:57

[quote Spudina]@AnEpisodeOfEastenders but my patients are CEV. They have blood cancers and the research shows they don’t have great responses to the vaccines because of their impaired immune systems. A lot of them are still not seeing anyone or doing anything as they are too frightened. They have lived this way for two years. And this plan is just throwing them under the bus frankly.[/quote]
Or you could just lock them away forever then?? Sooner or later life needs to go on.

Toddlerteaplease · 30/01/2022 22:57

It's about time. Though I suspect for those of us in healthcare the rules won't change for a loooong time yet.

Tealightsandd · 30/01/2022 22:58

@PinkPiranha11

Good. About time. Denmark are doing this, am sure other sensible Scandi countries will follow. Covid made me desperately want to live in Sweden, their approach was great and their outcomes no worse than ours.
Sweden. That would be the country where 50% of the population live alone. Yeah. That makes a massive difference when it comes to being able to self isolate and/or socially distance.
Toddlerteaplease · 30/01/2022 22:59

Isolating for me is far far worse than actual covid. When I got it pre vaccine, I was glad I'd not shielded as I've had worse colds. My mental health would have been wrecked for nothing.

XpressoMartini · 30/01/2022 23:04

@Spudina Then I believe your patients will just continue not seeing anyone or doing anything, as they have been doing for the past two years, at least during their treatment The end of isolation won’t change anything for them. However it will make a big difference for the vast majority of the population.

KurtWilde · 30/01/2022 23:08

@Toddlerteaplease

Isolating for me is far far worse than actual covid. When I got it pre vaccine, I was glad I'd not shielded as I've had worse colds. My mental health would have been wrecked for nothing.
I keep getting told off for saying this Grin

Maybe that will end now too!

StripyHorse · 30/01/2022 23:10

[quote Daisy829]@Waxonwaxoff0 I’m in exactly the same situation as you. 3 of us have tested positive in the house so I’ve had to close my business (childcare) for nearly 2 weeks and we’ve all had minimal symptoms. I’ve had worse colds. I realise for some it’s very serious and I’m not wanting to take away from that but for the majority, we should be able to continue as normal.

I can’t afford to take more time off unpaid & im fairly sure the government can’t afford to continue with all the self isolation grants and funding the tests. Apparently we are one of the only countries to encourage testing without symptoms. It’s like we are looking for trouble. No wonder our cases are showing high compared to others.[/quote]
Because the government is not prepared to support mitigations. Masks, improved ventilation etc to limit transmission would make it less necessary to test so frequently.

Instead, the govt placed their hopes on 'Operation Moonshot' with testing doing the heavy lifting. They don't see it as their problem if people loose out

Tealightsandd · 30/01/2022 23:11

[quote XpressoMartini]@Spudina Then I believe your patients will just continue not seeing anyone or doing anything, as they have been doing for the past two years, at least during their treatment The end of isolation won’t change anything for them. However it will make a big difference for the vast majority of the population.[/quote]
@Spudina Remember, mental health and empathy matters... except, apparently, for the millions of CV.

Not sure, though, how cancer patients (and other underlying conditions) will be able to not see anyone. What with their need for hospital appointments... Not to mention for many, their full-time jobs Hmm

MajorCarolDanvers · 30/01/2022 23:13

Vaccines and mutations mean that for most people it will be a bad cold.

Time to move on with living again.

Tealightsandd · 30/01/2022 23:14

@StripyHorse is right

Daisy829 · 30/01/2022 23:14

@StripyHorse yes that’s an excellent point. They could have spent 2 years and some of the funds theyve on sorting out schools, care homes & hospitals to make them safer

Tealightsandd · 30/01/2022 23:17

@MajorCarolDanvers

Vaccines and mutations mean that for most people it will be a bad cold.

Time to move on with living again.

You must let the medical and scientific experts know this.

I mean, perhaps - hopefully - in the future. But that is not a future we have not yet reached. Could be months, might be years.

Right now it's just as likely that the next mutation will be more, not less, dangerous. Particularly whilst we still have so much of the world still unvaccinated.

Pixxie7 · 30/01/2022 23:19

LondonQueen@ not for everyone otherwise we wouldn’t be seeing people hospitalised. Also there are still some very vulnerable people who getting Covid could have a detrimental effect on their health.

Tealightsandd · 30/01/2022 23:21

In the future, we will have more of the world vaccinated. And better knowledge of what is for now a still new and evolving disease. And wider availability of the new drug treatments.

But we're not there yet.

Hence the need to 'live with it. Which means simple and easy basic infection control mitigations that allow the economy to keep going. Masks, vaccine passes, good ventilation. That's what sensible countries are doing anyway.

XpressoMartini · 30/01/2022 23:21

I also think many people are carrying on with their life despite testing positive (not to mention those who don’t test). My kids told me many of their friends still came to school this January despite testing positive (teenagers in exam years not keen on missing school days). I don’t blame them.

Two very vulnerable people in my family got it recently (one ill, the other one close to 100 year old), they had very mild symptoms, no more than a very mild cold for 48 hours. I had it at the same time - we caught it from the same person - and I was very unwell for two weeks despite being fit, healthy and 50 years younger (and vaccinated too).

These two vulnerable family members have decided since the start of the pandemic to continue living as normal and seeing their loved ones as they know that they don’t have many years left and want to make the most of it.

I think anyone can make their own risk assessment vulnerable or not and decide if they want to shield but time has come we lift these blanket restrictions.

TheWaterNokk · 30/01/2022 23:22

Covid is rife in my child’s nursery class right now. Two of the kids she plays with have tested positive this weekend. I haven’t tested her.

She has no symptoms. I have the week from hell coming up this week. Basically spending four days on zoom meetings to finalise a large acquisition. My daughter is three. I can’t look after her at home. It’s not safe. I have no back up.

Chances are she doesn’t have covid (because she had it within the last three months) but this week in particular I am not going looking for it.

MarshaBradyo · 30/01/2022 23:23

Masks, vaccine passes, good ventilation. That's what sensible countries are doing anyway.

It’s not helping much with case numbers anyway - see Germany, France

They will peak higher then fall

MaybeHeIsMyCat · 30/01/2022 23:29

[quote XpressoMartini]@Spudina Then I believe your patients will just continue not seeing anyone or doing anything, as they have been doing for the past two years, at least during their treatment The end of isolation won’t change anything for them. However it will make a big difference for the vast majority of the population.[/quote]
Jobs? Doctors appointments, hospital appointments, picking up an emergency prescription as you can't get it delivered...
some of us work full time! There isn't a magic pot of money if you are CEV, I'm unwell enough to have had 4 vaccines, have rescue meds plus priority PCR at home, and be advised to shield still

Can't get critical illness cover or life insurance as I didn't have it when I was diagnosed (my diagnosis it's classed as a critical illness)
Not entitled to PIP or any benefits. Live alone so have to work FT to pay the mortgage

Thankfully my boss is sensible and wants me to stay working from home and I have a job that means I'm able to do that, even if incredibly isolating. If I didn't have a job I could WFH I would be absolutely screwed