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No one believes me when I say Dd has it again.

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CA0932017 · 18/01/2022 20:51

Anyone else had 2 bouts of covid in a very short space of time?

Dd tested + middle of December. All of us in the house had it, she was last to get it and wouldn't have known she had it without testing. Totally asymptomatic.

Fast forward and there's an outbreak in her class. At least 20 kids and teacher + was hoping she'd be okay as everyone kept saying she won't get it again.

Did lft's on her last week which were negative.

Woke up with a sore throat, snotty nose on Sunday and very faint line on lft, then stronger Monday. Complaining her eyes and nose hurt but otherwise totally fine.

Rest of us negative so far this time. Me and dp have been boosted since we had it in December.

Anyone else's kids been reinfected so soon?

Everyone keeps telling me I shouldn't have tested her within 90 days and it's just from old infection, yet we are told to lft when we have covid to leave isolation early so it's obvious they can go negative quickly in a lot of cases 🤦‍♀️

So yeah anyone else in the same boat and totally fed up of it?

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LyndaLaHughes · 19/01/2022 06:18

Here is government guidance-

From 11 January in England, people who receive positive lateral flow device (LFD) test results for coronavirus (COVID-19) will be required to self-isolate immediately and won’t be required to take a confirmatory PCR test Lateral flow tests are taken by people who do not have COVID-19 symptoms. Anyone who develops 1 of the 3 main COVID-19 symptoms should stay at home and self-isolate and take a PCR test. They must self-isolate if they get a positive test result, even if they have had a recent negative lateral flow test – these rules have not changed.

cliffdiver · 19/01/2022 06:22

Those saying she shouldn't do LFT within 90 days:

I spoke to T&T yesterday as I'm a close contact of +ve case.

They confirmed that although I recently had COVID (+ve PCR on 30/12) I must 'legally' do LFTs every day for 7 days. DH is also only 3 days out of isolation and must do them!

I questioned the 90 day rule, and they concurred it is a flawed system.

treeflowercat · 19/01/2022 06:32

Pre Omicron, being reinfected with Covid within 90 days was extremely rare and probably meant you had an auto-immune condition. Omicron is sufficiently different to Delta to enable this to happen though.

She almost certainly had Delta in December and Omicron now. That's really unlucky though.

Panicmode1 · 19/01/2022 06:35

DS2 had Covid in Sept and again over Christmas.

We were told by T&T not to test within 90 days, but the school said the rules have changed, and you DO have to test even if you have had it recently. If you Google, the NHS advice says you can have a Covid jab after 30 days; school immunisation team said 12 weeks...by which time they will probably have caught it again!

The system is a total mess....

CA0932017 · 19/01/2022 06:35

Thanks all. I spoke to 119 and they said she did not need a pcr but the school were being funny about parents not doing pcrs so we did one. She's isolating. Hoping that she'll be line free again sat/sun to she can go back school Monday after 7 day isolation. Not holding my breath though, as last month she still had a line up until day 9. Might be the full 10 days again 😪

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Spilltheteaplease · 19/01/2022 06:37

@cliffdiver

Those saying she shouldn't do LFT within 90 days:

I spoke to T&T yesterday as I'm a close contact of +ve case.

They confirmed that although I recently had COVID (+ve PCR on 30/12) I must 'legally' do LFTs every day for 7 days. DH is also only 3 days out of isolation and must do them!

I questioned the 90 day rule, and they concurred it is a flawed system.

The 90 day thing applies to PCR not LFT. You can continue to show positives on PCR well after you've recovered but not with LFT.
CA0932017 · 19/01/2022 06:37

When I booked her a pcr it did ask if you have had covid within 90 days, I selected yes and it still lets you go ahead as she had symptoms - I had to lie about having the main three though - she hasn't got a single one of the main three. Government really need to update that!

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Mindymomo · 19/01/2022 06:41

Op, you are doing exactly the right thing, getting a PCR with new symptoms.

CA0932017 · 19/01/2022 06:48

@Mindymomo

Op, you are doing exactly the right thing, getting a PCR with new symptoms.
It came back positive. Lft line is stronger now too. Was very faint on Sunday. Was kinda hoping lft was false positive and pcr would be negative. Again, people keep saying well you shouldn't have tested, I rang 119 for advice before we did the pcr and they said it's almost definitely a new infection given circumstance.. she's had contact with 20+ Kids in her class that have tested positive, plus the teacher! Was really hoping she would miss it.

I have a friend who's kids had covid in October, she honestly thinks her kids can't get it right until the 90 days is up - which must be getting close anyway. She's sent her kids with all sorts of symptoms since as 'can't test within 90 days'. She thinks their immune.

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rrhuth · 19/01/2022 07:00

@CA0932017

When I booked her a pcr it did ask if you have had covid within 90 days, I selected yes and it still lets you go ahead as she had symptoms - I had to lie about having the main three though - she hasn't got a single one of the main three. Government really need to update that!
Repeat infections are not included in the daily figures - something that should be changed really as there are so many now.

I hope your DD stays OK and has mild symptoms.

needmoreshinys · 19/01/2022 07:10

OP

Ignore everything, everyone on the internet says and ask your school want they need to prove it and do that.

The rules changed at least once while DS was in isolation and I got told so many different thing, I just went with what the school needed

Staryflight445 · 19/01/2022 07:15

@NewMum0305 if you have symptoms you still need a PCR.
Only Asymptomatic cases of covid with positive LFT do not require PCR.

And someone else is correct, you shouldn’t PCR again within 90 days.

stingofthebutterfly · 19/01/2022 07:27

My husband's colleague has got it for the third time in a few months. My mum had it twice in 3 months at the beginning of the pandemic before there were tests and vaccinations, and the media was saying it was almost impossible for reinfection to occur. I knew they were talking rubbish.

BaggaTDoubleTroubleDoubleG · 19/01/2022 07:29

We all have tested positive on LFTs and not had a follow up PCR. We do have symptoms of illness but not any of the main 3 Covid symptoms listed - cough/temperature/loss of smell & taste. Instead we have headaches, sore throats and runny noses. Track and Trace said no need for PCR.

SmashingBIouse · 19/01/2022 07:34

As an aside...

Me and DH had covid way back at the end of February/beginning of March 2020. We were ill for about a week, got better for about ten days, then got ill again, but worse. Altogether we were quite ill for about a month (though DH wasn't fully well for about two months).

When more became known about Covid it was accepted that a feature of it (that first strain at least) was feeling better for a while, then becoming ill again.

When I've heard of people testing positive in a very short space of time after their last infection (and I've heard it a lot), I wonder if it could be this? Perhaps it's a throwback to the first variant present in Omicron?

Spilltheteaplease · 19/01/2022 07:34

@CA0932017

When I booked her a pcr it did ask if you have had covid within 90 days, I selected yes and it still lets you go ahead as she had symptoms - I had to lie about having the main three though - she hasn't got a single one of the main three. Government really need to update that!
It's crazy isn't it, it hasn't really been those 3 symptoms for ages and ages. Most people I know had other symptoms first too, including a severe headache for lots.
knittingaddict · 19/01/2022 08:01

@Bobholll

No she doesn’t *@LadyFannyButton* - you don’t need a PCR is you test positive on a LF. That was introduced last week.
If you have symptoms you need to test with a pcr.
MerryPoppings · 19/01/2022 08:20

@SmashingBIouse

As an aside...

Me and DH had covid way back at the end of February/beginning of March 2020. We were ill for about a week, got better for about ten days, then got ill again, but worse. Altogether we were quite ill for about a month (though DH wasn't fully well for about two months).

When more became known about Covid it was accepted that a feature of it (that first strain at least) was feeling better for a while, then becoming ill again.

When I've heard of people testing positive in a very short space of time after their last infection (and I've heard it a lot), I wonder if it could be this? Perhaps it's a throwback to the first variant present in Omicron?

Definitely not the case with my DC. Mildly ill the first time. Completely recovered for 6 weeks with negative LFTs. Then became ill (sore throat, lost voice, very tired, no appetite) and tested strongly positive on LFT, confirmed by PCR.

No way that was the same infection.

LadyFannyButton · 19/01/2022 08:23

@Bobholll

No she doesn’t *@LadyFannyButton* - you don’t need a PCR is you test positive on a LF. That was introduced last week.
@Bobholll if you read the rules that were introduced last week it says

“There are some exceptions to this approach and certain groups will still require a confirmatory PCR following a positive LFD result:”
“LFD tests are to be used by people without COVID-19 symptoms. Anyone who has one of the core symptoms of COVID-19 – a high temperature, a new, continuous cough or a loss or change to your sense of smell or taste – should self-isolate and take a PCR test. They must self-isolate if they get a positive test result, even if they have had a recent negative lateral flow test – these rules have not changed.”
www.gov.uk/government/news/people-with-a-positive-lateral-flow-test-no-longer-required-to-take-confirmatory-pcr-test

www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/testing/get-tested-for-coronavirus/

Although the symptoms for omicron are far more than the 3 main symptoms the Gov.U.K. Still bang on about, but that’s a separate issue.

blackcurrantjam · 19/01/2022 08:52

Yep. Kids had it Oct/Nov, I didn't. Now we all have it. Positive pcrs. Only plausible explanation is delta then this one is Omicron.

CA0932017 · 19/01/2022 09:02

Thanks all. I'm just a very frustrated anxious mother right now! Not over the illness as such as was mild in December and barely any symptoms for Dd this time but very stressed. Gone from having covid in December and it taking over a week for us all to catch so nearly 3 weeks of isolation in this house, a crappy Christmas, back to school but extreme anxiety from DS after so long off, major outbreak at the school and gone back to bubbles, now we have covid in the house again. DS has some up with a dodgy stomach so likely he could have it - we didn't have any gastric symptoms last time around but most of the kids in DS's class with it have sickness or the poops. I need some normality in my life. I don't drink I'm I feel
Like I need a drink or three 😅🤛🤦‍♀️

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Staryflight445 · 19/01/2022 09:38

It astounds me that people think this way of life is better than homeschooling for them for a month or so.
I have such an anxious little girl after she caught covid last month at school, the situation is ridiculous and I’m seeing more and more parents remove their children from this situation.

@CA0932017

CA0932017 · 19/01/2022 10:00

@Staryflight445

It astounds me that people think this way of life is better than homeschooling for them for a month or so. I have such an anxious little girl after she caught covid last month at school, the situation is ridiculous and I’m seeing more and more parents remove their children from this situation.

@CA0932017

My son has been so anxious after having covid in December, isolating, then Christmas (which is overwhelming for him) then going back to school and back to bubbles etc at school and testing us again! He's so anxious but in our case he's better off in school, periods off school aren't good as he struggles majorly when he gets back. He went school during the last lockdown.. hoping DS has not got covid though, he's got an upset tummy and I intend to test him (testing him isn't easy mine). It could be something else, who knows...
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changingstages · 19/01/2022 10:14

we're in the same boat. She was really unwell with it last time so while I'm trying to be all breezy and cheerful to her I feel sick with worry.

She's positive on LFT (having tested negative loads already this month as she was a close contact several times) today and while she's unwell, it's not with any of the main three symptoms so no PCR. Which feels kind of weird, but there we go.

CA0932017 · 19/01/2022 10:24

@changingstages

we're in the same boat. She was really unwell with it last time so while I'm trying to be all breezy and cheerful to her I feel sick with worry.

She's positive on LFT (having tested negative loads already this month as she was a close contact several times) today and while she's unwell, it's not with any of the main three symptoms so no PCR. Which feels kind of weird, but there we go.

Hope she's not as badly affected this time 💕 Dd has none of the main three either. Sore throat, snotty, sore nose (not from the snot, she says it hurts inside her nose maybe like sinus pain) & eyes sore!
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