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Friend telling me its all 'propaganda bullshit' as I'm spending day 6 in bed so poorly with it

85 replies

Kara198 · 03/01/2022 23:37

Honestly... how do you deal you deal them.
She's a close friend so I can't just cut her out but she seems to have been brainwashed by her partner and his family. One of these "omg you got the vaccine, you bought into the MSM propaganda. How embarrassing 😳 " types.
Does my bloody head in.
I've just spent my 6th day in bed with covid and have been really really poorly.
All she cares about is why I went for a pcr test when I got a positive LF. Why did I see the need to "prolong the BS" when I knew I had it.
I'm double vaccinated and she keeps saying I've proved her theory that they're a waste of time, and she then lists all the people she knows that have recently had covid and breezed through it, unvaccinated.
I'm finding it hard to articulate anything back and to be fair, I don't really have an argument relating to the vaccine! Me and my 2 close friends were all double jabbed and currently are all in the same state with it

What do I say to make her shut up 😪 how deal with it when friends have such opposing views?

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Thewiseoneincognito · 04/01/2022 09:37

Call me cynical but your OP reads like a Covid denier pretending to be someone ill with Covid despite having had the vaccines. I’m guessing I’m most potentially wrong in that assumption but these anti vaxxers are a real piece of work so nothing is beyond them in their commitment to the ‘cause’.

Either way your friend and their DP sound deranged and a pair of dix, do not engage with them it’s a mental illness.

Mol1628 · 04/01/2022 09:40

@CockneySpanner

Unfortunately she will say something that will be too far for you and you’ll cut her off then - may not be today or in a month or a year but it’ll happen. I had 10 years of my anti vaxx friend’s conspiracy theories then she said something so insulting that couldn’t be taken back. Sorry, OP. Once down that road, unless something drastic or devastating happens to them to change their views you’ll always be the ‘sheeple’ to them.
This is sadly true in my case. I’ve lost my sister to it but I just can’t forgive her. And my reason for cutting her out is that she’s getting worse and worse over time.
BoudecaBains · 04/01/2022 09:45

Tell her your phones isn’t working properly so if she’d like to come round and explain it all to you in person then that would be fine. If she could excuse the coughing.

AliceA2021 · 04/01/2022 09:45

She's not your friend @Kara198 she an idiot and you keep allowing her to insult you to your face and you do nothing about it.

elelel · 04/01/2022 09:48

She's a close friend so I can't just cut her out

Of course you can.

What do I say to make her shut up 😪**

Nothing. Stop engaging.

how deal with it when friends have such opposing views?

Opposing views are fine within friendship. Your problem is your friend is an idiot. Why would you want to be friends with them anywayConfused

Kittykelly123 · 04/01/2022 09:53

Well you sound like a prick - I am double jabbed, I am Covid positive right now - symptoms developed on Christmas Day. My LFT did not become positive until about 11pm on 26th Dec with very faint line. DH following day. PCR confirmed Covid and children positive too. Just did another LFT and still showing as positive. We are all fine and probably would have been without vax. Government said protection wanes after 10 weeks so will not have booster. If people are really that ill they won’t be posting- that is a fact. I don’t deny Covid and understand some people get very sick and those people will not be making mumsnet threads.

BigWoollyJumpers · 04/01/2022 09:58

We are all fine and probably would have been without vax

Yes, probably, but not definitely, as illustrated by so many in ICU who "wished they had got a vaccination".

BigWoollyJumpers · 04/01/2022 10:01

OP - I am afraid I cut out a friend entirely early on in 2021. My DM and her husband had just died in a care home, on the same day. I saw her at school a month or so after, and rather than being supportive, she berated me for believing they had died of Covid, because they were old, so what did I expect. She lectured me for a good half hour, until my DD came out of school, and we left. She later sent me an apology text, and said she was sorry my parents had died. I never replied, and haven't spoken to her since.

Everly18 · 04/01/2022 10:06

You should invite her round, she can test her theory out for herself. 😊

DontTellThemYourNamePike · 04/01/2022 10:09

Oh, here we go. The 'if you were so ill you couldn't even flicker your eyelids' brigade. I had the mother of all flu's in 2018 and still managed to have a bit of a moan on Facebook. It was definitely flu - you know, real flu, confirmed by a doctor, not that oul fake flu🙄 I was very ill and the effects lasted for months.

Your friend @Kara198 is not a friend, whatever you may think. A friend would keep their opinions to themselves and ask if you need anything. A friend would show some compassion. Their personal views would not override their concern for you. My eldest was very unwell with Covid and my lovely Covid denying SIL didn't even ask how her nephew was - not even out of concern for DP, who was worried about our child. She was too busy telling us to WAKE UP. We can't be arsed with her anymore.

Hope you're feeling better soonThanks

DontTellThemYourNamePike · 04/01/2022 10:17

That's awful @BigWoollyJumpers. Those afterthought condolences (by text!) really were too little too late. Sorry for your loss.

Blubells · 04/01/2022 10:21

I actually don't believe the op.

Mol1628 · 04/01/2022 10:23

It’s upsetting how many relationships have been ruined by this.

What is it that’s causing it? It can’t just be about differing views? Why are people that don’t believe in Covid being horrible to family members over it?

Kshhuxnxk · 04/01/2022 10:25

@Kittykelly123

If you are so sick how can you message on mumsnet? I don’t mean to be harsh but I have had flu before (actual flu when it was a actual thing) before COVID-19 and I could not even drink and have never felt so bad in all my life. There is no way I would have been even able to talk to a friend let alone message and start mumsnet threads. I don’t think people really know what being in bed I’ll is nowadays. I am fully vaccinated before you class me as being an anti-vaxxer. I will say though that people not jabbed have a point and it could turn out that they are right and the vaccine is bad. For all those saying the vaccine saved me and I would have been worse without it- that is not based on evidence and the protection wanes so you probably would have been the same. I am currently Covid positive (DH + children too) and have been fine. Will not get a booster
That sums it up for me!
Orchidflower1 · 04/01/2022 10:25

Firstly @Kara198 I hope you feel better soon.

You either never mention it between you again or ditch her. They are honestly the only two options.

Blubells · 04/01/2022 10:26

Why are people that don’t believe in Covid being horrible to family members over it?

Or why are people who do believe in Covid horrible to family members (who choose not to be vaccinated) equally horrible?

Probably because they're not able to accept different viewpoints and respect each other. Simple!

JSL52 · 04/01/2022 10:26

What does she think is wrong with you?

Mol1628 · 04/01/2022 10:34

@Blubells

Why are people that don’t believe in Covid being horrible to family members over it?

Or why are people who do believe in Covid horrible to family members (who choose not to be vaccinated) equally horrible?

Probably because they're not able to accept different viewpoints and respect each other. Simple!

Very true. It’s sad.
DdraigGoch · 04/01/2022 10:35

What do I say to make her shut up

I'd suggest inviting her over, then making sure that you cough over her. Got to be cruel to be kind...

MrsSkylerWhite · 04/01/2022 10:37

Presumably, you and your double vaxxed friend didn’t have boosters?

Sorry you’re feeling so rough. Ignore her.

GiantHaystacks2021 · 04/01/2022 10:38

You can't argue with crazy.
Crazies love an argument and they hate being ignored.

Ignore.
Consider ditching her.

Cocogreen · 04/01/2022 10:44

I couldn't have anyone that stupid, not to mention insensitive and thoughtless in my life.
I'd block and ghost them without any hesitation.
Hope you feel better soon.

newusername2009 · 04/01/2022 10:46

@Scautish

Just show her these two graphs - if she has any intelligence at all she will see the massive positive impact of vaccines. Science has saved tens of thousands of deaths. Your friend is a fuckwit.
Or it has mutated to a less dangerous form and so less people are hospitalised and seriously ill / dying.
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Kara198 · 04/01/2022 11:51

Morning all. I've just woken from an epic 10 hour sleep
Thanks for all the advice and sorry to hear that so many others have had this with friends/family.
She asked how I was at the start when it was just the classic covid symptoms (cough/no taste or smell/headache etc). I had a lot of her telling me to just trust my immune system. After that the questions on how I was stopped and then the questions came relating to why I felt the need to go for a pcr 'out of interest' and digs about how the vaccine is a waste of time. Even this morning she's posted 3 rant threads on FB, one of them showing a positive LFT but done as a meme saying "you have a cold".
For those asking, my booster was booked for last week whilst I was off work, obviously couldn't go.

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Kara198 · 04/01/2022 11:53

And @kittykelly123 not really sure what you want me to say I'm afraid. I'm on day 7 and coming out the other side.
I've had to have a lot of interaction with 111 as I've been very poorly and have developed vertigo. Not eaten for a week, extremely low blood pressure , unable to do anything 'routine'. But thankfully getting better.

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