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Friend telling me its all 'propaganda bullshit' as I'm spending day 6 in bed so poorly with it

85 replies

Kara198 · 03/01/2022 23:37

Honestly... how do you deal you deal them.
She's a close friend so I can't just cut her out but she seems to have been brainwashed by her partner and his family. One of these "omg you got the vaccine, you bought into the MSM propaganda. How embarrassing 😳 " types.
Does my bloody head in.
I've just spent my 6th day in bed with covid and have been really really poorly.
All she cares about is why I went for a pcr test when I got a positive LF. Why did I see the need to "prolong the BS" when I knew I had it.
I'm double vaccinated and she keeps saying I've proved her theory that they're a waste of time, and she then lists all the people she knows that have recently had covid and breezed through it, unvaccinated.
I'm finding it hard to articulate anything back and to be fair, I don't really have an argument relating to the vaccine! Me and my 2 close friends were all double jabbed and currently are all in the same state with it

What do I say to make her shut up 😪 how deal with it when friends have such opposing views?

OP posts:
bcc89 · 04/01/2022 06:57

I wouldn't continue this friendship, simple.

echt · 04/01/2022 07:17

Seriously? Bin her her off.

Anyone who would address the ill in a crowing way is worth zero.

Think about it:

Cancer - bet you wish you hadn't smoked. It's no different in essence.

pompomsgalore · 04/01/2022 07:22

Phase her out. You have very different views on important issues. Yes friends can have differing views but you need to align on the big things.

colourmebladd · 04/01/2022 07:24

If you hadn’t had the vaccine you’d be a lot worse!

mustbetheseasonofthebitch · 04/01/2022 07:35

That's not a friend.

magicstar1 · 04/01/2022 07:44

I have three friends whose families are unvaccinated. We’re double jabbed and have the booster. I told them that we don’t agree so we’re not going to discuss it, or we’ll fall out. It’s been fine so far - a little bit of biting my tongue but that’s all. When it’s all over we’ll be glad to still be friends.

CaptainChannel · 04/01/2022 07:44

Something like 'let's agree to disagree'. Then don't engage in any more conversation about it. Either don't message her back or change the subject. I know someone like this, unbelievably her (35 year old brother) spent 10 days in hospital with it severely ill, and yet she still peddles out this shit.

underneaththeash · 04/01/2022 07:48

You have to tell her to shut up (politely). I have a similar friend, like most of the people who fall down the conspiracy theory hole, she's not good at critical thinking and has mental health problems.

I just had to tell her straight that I didn't agree with her and wasn't interested in discussing it and if our friendship was to survive we needed to not talk about it.

Bluntness100 · 04/01/2022 07:53

Just tell her you don’t wish to discuss it. I have a loose friend who is an anti vaxxer and the only way through it is not to discuss it. There is no sensible discussion to be had. She has some wild views, from thinking David Icke is an oracle and reptilian people roam the earth, to 5g causing the virus to it not being real and bill gates is microchipping us all. When in her company the only solution is not to discuss it.

MimiBaker · 04/01/2022 07:54

Don't discuss it with her, if she brings it up change the subject or tell her you'll have to agree to disagree. You can't argue with stupid.

FlipFlops4Me · 04/01/2022 08:13

@Tillymintpolo

You need to tell her straight - fuck off
This!
Mol1628 · 04/01/2022 08:15

I feel I should add that in my situation, saying we won’t discuss it didn’t work. She just had a superior I’m right you’re wrong attitude and treat us like we were part of the problem, whilst being very pally with her new anti vax mates. It’s very hurtful. Long story short we’ve had to cut ties with her.

gamerchick · 04/01/2022 08:19

Is she actually visiting you to prove her words or is it from the safety of behind a keyboard?

Justwingingit2005 · 04/01/2022 08:20

DH and I were hit quite badly with covid in Oct. In bed and a week etc. A friend of mine said oh how's your cold. I've kept her at arms length since.

Longdistance · 04/01/2022 08:30

Yes, invite her around for coffee and a hug. See if she takes you up on the offer.

Itsseweasy · 04/01/2022 08:49

I’m not really understanding why you’d want to be friends with someone like that, but irrespective of that, you just need to calmly explain that the vaccine does not stop you catching it, what it can do is lessen the symptoms when you do.
So someone who may have ended up in hospital without the vaccine may only have it as a cold.
What doesn’t she understand about that?! She’s an idiot.

Mol1628 · 04/01/2022 08:57

Be careful about inviting her over for coffee and a hug! She will likely take you up on it and think you’re agreeing with her. Often these people are totally deluded!

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 04/01/2022 09:10

A friend of mine kept going on a about masks

One day we were out for coffee and she started on again and eventually i said if she didnt stop i was done and would walk out…i did have to walk out but she has stopped talking to me about it

Id tell her that if she keeps on then you can’t be friends moving forward and keep to it….she doesn’t sound like much of a friend anyway.

Hope you feel better soon 💐

takingmytimeonmyride · 04/01/2022 09:18

Has she actually asked how you are? Shown any concern for you?

One of my friends had the same thing. Mentioned she had covid and some other friend went on a rant about how it was just flu rebranded blah blah.

I called her out asking why she hadn't even asked my friend how she was feeling, didn't wish her a speedy recovery, didn't congratulate her on her new job that she'd also mentioned. Nope, it had to be a rant about her agenda. Which just proved she's not a friend and she doesn't care.

So if she hasn't asked after you, offered to help with shopping etc dump her, she's not a friend.

Shedmistress · 04/01/2022 09:24

So she'd rather you were sicker and potentially on a life saving ventilator or worse than have the vaccine?

That's not a friend.

CockneySpanner · 04/01/2022 09:27

Unfortunately she will say something that will be too far for you and you’ll cut her off then - may not be today or in a month or a year but it’ll happen. I had 10 years of my anti vaxx friend’s conspiracy theories then she said something so insulting that couldn’t be taken back. Sorry, OP. Once down that road, unless something drastic or devastating happens to them to change their views you’ll always be the ‘sheeple’ to them.

Blubells · 04/01/2022 09:28

She's a close friend so I can't just cut her out

That's not my definition of a close friend Hmm

Blubells · 04/01/2022 09:29

This isn't about your views (or ours) on covid. This is about your choice of friend'

This be got friends and family members with different views on covid or vaccines but we respect each other's opinions.

CagneyNYPD1 · 04/01/2022 09:35

@Blubells

She's a close friend so I can't just cut her out

That's not my definition of a close friend Hmm

Nor mine. Friendships can change over time and although she was once a close friend, that doesn't mean that she is now. A close friend wouldn't behave in this way. It sounds like she has demoted herself to "acquaintance".
Kittykelly123 · 04/01/2022 09:35

If you are so sick how can you message on mumsnet? I don’t mean to be harsh but I have had flu before (actual flu when it was a actual thing) before COVID-19 and I could not even drink and have never felt so bad in all my life. There is no way I would have been even able to talk to a friend let alone message and start mumsnet threads. I don’t think people really know what being in bed I’ll is nowadays. I am fully vaccinated before you class me as being an anti-vaxxer. I will say though that people not jabbed have a point and it could turn out that they are right and the vaccine is bad. For all those saying the vaccine saved me and I would have been worse without it- that is not based on evidence and the protection wanes so you probably would have been the same. I am currently Covid positive (DH + children too) and have been fine. Will not get a booster