Nightingale hubs - help /hinderance/PR exercise

[peridito]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59823652

The eight temporary "Nightingale" units will each house about 100 patients, with building starting this week

Royal Preston hospital in Lancashire
St James' University Hospital in Leeds
Lister Hospital in Stevenage
St George's Hospital in Tooting
William Harvey Hospital in Ashford, Kent
North Bristol Hospital
Solihull Hospital
University Hospitals Birmingham
University Hospitals Leicester

temporary structures will be set up in the grounds of hospitals so staff, equipment and emergency departments are close at hand.

Only those patients who are close to being discharged and need minimal support will be cared for at these facilities.

not much detail ,I wonder how much help they'll be by (presumably) providing a hot zone for recovering Covid patients.

But surely this will be extra pressure for NHS staff figuring out resources to accommodate them ,even if they're just erected and not used .And there will be no extra staff to provide care in them ..so increasing bed space by a 100 but no staff ,nurses ,cleaners ,caterers .

My local hospital in London has had to close wards because they can't staff them .

I have trouble believing that tbh - or are you a HCP registered with an agency or something, which makes it fractionally more credible?

Even then, what about safeguarding etc etc etc

Gosh - sort of airbnb for recovering patients .

carerooms.com/hosts/

I am a registered nurse who only gave up my registration a couple of years ago and could easily look after people who are mildly ill. One of the hospitals on the list is my local hospital. However they are not recruiting any new staff, not even health care assistants. I do understand that there would need to be some training, but surely me being on the NMC emergency covid register suggests that the NMC are happy to have people like me helping out yet I can't seem to help anywhere !

[quote peridito]Gosh - sort of airbnb for recovering patients .

carerooms.com/hosts/[/quote]
So, £50 a night for providing light nursing care to someone who may have a range of support needs. That works out as rather less than minimum wage, doesn't it?

That website is blowing my mind - there are surely so many pitfalls!!!

Has it just been set up for the current situation or did it already exist?

Thanks

Apparently established in 2018 so well before covid.

I'm sure a NHS trust tried this ( people in the community taking in discharged patients ) some years back ,Basildon ?

This surprised me a bit ..

Do I have to pay for setting up the room?

Yes, but we also provide options to deduct this cost from your fees once Guests stay with you. This cost is a £200 (plus VAT) signing up fee to cover your DBS check(s), all training and your CareRooms branded room pack and as we said, this can be paid once you have Guests staying with you.

Still ,one for @Wingedharpy is missing a trick I think .A rival operation (see what I did there !) I feel .

Am just wondering how much profit there is in this: follow the money?

And would LAs be paying the fees?

@JanglyBeads

Apparently established in 2018 so well before covid.

You’d think they could have corrected the lack of apostrophe on the home page in that time.

Jangly ! profit ? How very cynical of you ,I'm sure these good people are just trying to take some of the pressure off the NHS and that they're just covering their costs .

I can't believe it's still in business or that there is much demand .I wonder what their accounts look like on Companies House .

I don't think my big garage would cut the mustard for CareRooms @peridito.
No bathroom facilities for starters - though I'm happy to supply a large, sturdy bucket.
The roof also leaks a bit, but I would be careful to place beds away from leaks, where possible and we do have a wide selection of umbrellas on offer - rental prices dependent on model chosen.

So well ventilated then? Perfect! supply a commode, some baby wipes & offer mouthcare to those paying for platinum service.

Winged - wc/bathroom facilities don't need to be ensuite just exclusive use for guest .So you and yours can have the bucket and baby wipes .

I'd really hoped a more can do approach from a former NHS Angel .

How about we employ the car parking attendants and ticket wardens as HCA's 😜

I wonder what their accounts look like on Companies House

If they've got any sense they'll delay filing until there have been at least a couple of company name changes, so they can claim it "wasn't them"

Wingedharpy your generosity knows no bounds but you don't seem to have considered food ...? All suggestions welcome

Care homes.com supply three meals a day apparently...

Here they are, incorporated in 2008!

find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06764966/filing-history

I'm not sure that's them ..I'd expect some of the personnel to appear

carerooms.com/about/

I think it's this lot find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/10731851
one of many pies that Paul has his finger in . Not to say he's doing anything wrong or unusual .

What’s being missed is that a lot of the people in hospital beds don’t need to be there. They’re not medically ill, it’s just an issue with finding somewhere to go.

These car park facilities will therefore effectively act as hotels for these patients. I would bring in people like hotel staff, nursery nurses, social workers, teachers etc to look after them.

It’s a PR stunt. There isn’t enough staff. Also from what I hear it’s becoming increasingly difficult to get staff.

Personally I’d like to see more flexibility with staffing. NHS staff should be able to be temporarily transferred across the country to where they’re needed. It makes no sense having nurses sitting idle in Plymouth when they’re needed in Birmingham.

Equally, could other public sector workers be doing more? Why not get teachers in for a few hours after school for example to heat up meals for these car park facilities?

@PinkTree7

Personally I’d like to see more flexibility with staffing. NHS staff should be able to be temporarily transferred across the country to where they’re needed. It makes no sense having nurses sitting idle in Plymouth when they’re needed in Birmingham.

Equally, could other public sector workers be doing more? Why not get teachers in for a few hours after school for example to heat up meals for these car park facilities?

Or maybe some of the MP's could chip in between meetings of the house or when in recess.

@PinkTree7

Personally I’d like to see more flexibility with staffing. NHS staff should be able to be temporarily transferred across the country to where they’re needed. It makes no sense having nurses sitting idle in Plymouth when they’re needed in Birmingham.

Equally, could other public sector workers be doing more? Why not get teachers in for a few hours after school for example to heat up meals for these car park facilities?

You do know that nurses are people? With families and commitments just like you?

Would you be OK with being shipped across the country at a moments notice to work a shift in Birmingham when you have dependent children living in Plymouth as per your example.

Honestly, you have so little idea how the health system works that your posts are embarrassing.

@PinkTree7