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Going back to school .

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Sallydimebar · 28/12/2021 21:23

Feeling really uneasy on DS 12 returning to school , Just feel this omicron is going to rip through and although I’m told it’s mild 2 people currently with covid are vomiting, stomach pain and feeling dreadful , barely moving out of bed. I’m thinking it’s probably omicron they’ve got .
I feel with out the vaccine I’m sending him in with no protection. Not feeling 100% on the jab but don’t want the risk of long covid and he really seems to suffer quite badly with illness . He had it in October was quite poorly with it , can’t get jab till end of jan . Was poorly 2 weeks ago with headache and temp for four days then cough lft negative . Just don’t want another 8/10 days of omicron . It’s being described as highly contagious so very likely to be in school again in jan .

Are parents going to lft kids twice a week (if test-kit available as I can’t get hold of any at moment) ? Not heard about masks yet , but they were only needed in corridors not in class .

Was hoping if you had delta maybe that would protect you for a bit, if he had antibodies but I’ve read delta gives you no protection from omicron.

Really don’t want schools shut again and so vital for his mental health to be with his peers as well as education.

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Blubells · 29/12/2021 11:59

The second it was announced that NYE was normal the staff WhatApps group exploded as teachers at my school made plans to go clubbing. 9 out of 20 teachers at my primary will be out on the town on Friday

Then those staff are obviously not worried about catching covid and aren't vulnerable or CEV. That's great. If the catch it they'll just have isolate for 7 days hopefully.

PumpkinPie2016 · 29/12/2021 12:00

My Y3 son will be in. I teach secondary so have to go to work.

I am testing twice weekly and we live rurally, about a mile from a small village, so, to be honest, we don't have much contact with people apart from schools. Husband works very part time and mostly outdoors so less risky.

I genuinely think next term in schools will be mayhem. Three of my team have tested positive over the hols and a few more that I know of across school. Last term was awful with staff absences (and pupils) - I was robbing Peter to pay Paul trying to cover classes to minimise impact on pupils. Supply staff were like hens teeth as well.

However, we will plod on Grin

theemperorhasnoclothes · 29/12/2021 12:04

I have to say there are two groups of people who I think no-one can reasonably criticise for attending massive crowded indoor events like nightclubs - HCPs and teachers.

It would be the height of hypocrisy to expect teachers NOT to mix indoors with hundreds of people now within minimal mitigations just so they can go to work to - erm - mix indoors with hundreds of people with absolutely no mitigations.

I strongly feel there should be more protections in schools (ventilation, air filtration etc) but there are essentially none for an airborne virus right now and that should be acknowledged. They've been right in the firing line throughout and worked tirelessly. If anyone deserves a good time it's teachers!

Nightclubs arguably safer because the clientele at least has the option to be vaccinated with up to 12 year olds don't.

theemperorhasnoclothes · 29/12/2021 12:06

I wish they'd hurry up and let us vaccinate our younger children if we want to (people don't have to of course) now the vaccine's been approved. Why can't they pull their fingers out? . I'd really like some protection for my kids, especially since omicron seems to hit kids harder.

Remmy123 · 29/12/2021 12:17

I don't know why anyone would voluntarily remove their kids from school!

Even if you are vulnerable you have had x3 jabs and a fourth one on the way .. unless you stay home and never go out you will get it, it's no longer avoidable.

Blubells · 29/12/2021 12:18

I have to say there are two groups of people who I think no-one can reasonably criticise for attending massive crowded indoor events like nightclubs - HCPs and teachers.

I don't think anyone is criticising them. It's wonderful if teachers feel they can have fun in nightclubs - it implies that they're not worried about catching covid.

Covidworries · 29/12/2021 12:22

@remmy123

Only vunerable children under 12 still havent had even one vaccine so loke hell am i sending my children to a high risk area during a varient that spreads faster than ever and has incresed hospitalisations to highest ot under 16 still pandemic began.

Elodeastar · 29/12/2021 12:32

I am slightly concerned about schools not returned/delayed returning, as I think it is really, really important to keep children in school as much as possible, they mostly perform better there, the teachers can teach better there, and their lives are much better when they can learn and interact with their peers. Only if someone has to officially isolate should they be staying away, teachers, pupils, and other staff included in that.

Remmy123 · 29/12/2021 12:33

@Covidworries very few children are hospitalised from covid? kids get hospitalised from the flu but you don't take them out of school surely?

Obv if you have vulnerable children that's another story.

DolphinFC · 29/12/2021 12:37

@Blubells

The second it was announced that NYE was normal the staff WhatApps group exploded as teachers at my school made plans to go clubbing. 9 out of 20 teachers at my primary will be out on the town on Friday

Then those staff are obviously not worried about catching covid and aren't vulnerable or CEV. That's great. If the catch it they'll just have isolate for 7 days hopefully.

Who's teaching their class?
TheVolturi · 29/12/2021 12:46

At the start of the pandemic, I made the choice to keep my dc off school, then they shut anyway three days later. Now though, I wil be sending them. We have all recently had covid and I don't think we can carry on avoiding things really. Plus, being out of school so much really lowered their immune systems and they need build it back up. Isn't all the data suggesting that covid is becoming milder anyway?

farcas · 29/12/2021 12:46

The second it was announced that NYE was normal the staff WhatApps group exploded as teachers at my school made plans to go clubbing. 9 out of 20 teachers at my primary will be out on the town on Friday

They are acting within the current guidelines.
This reminds me of a parent in our school who complained when 3 teachers were seen outside of school together. The parent informed the head and the governors (as well as slating them on class WhatsApps). The three involved live together in a house share.
Blame the rule makers if you don't like the rules.

neveradullmoment99 · 29/12/2021 12:52

[quote Remmy123]@Covidworries very few children are hospitalised from covid? kids get hospitalised from the flu but you don't take them out of school surely?

Obv if you have vulnerable children that's another story.[/quote]
More children with Omicron.

Remmy123 · 29/12/2021 12:56

@neveradullmoment99 my friend works in a large hospital in pedeatrics and she said around x5 kids in with covid!!!

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Sallydimebar · 29/12/2021 12:57

@Elodeastar yes I’m aware it’s very important to be in school and we all have different concerns for different reasons.
My daughter in year 11 last term don’t know how many supplies she had lost count . Geography teacher off for 3weeks . Sitting GCSEs in may
My DS suffers bad from a common cold so a bit concerned how he would cope with omicron with no protection and his health will always be my main priority .
As pp said “hopefully teachers just off for 7 days”2 people I know at the moment still testing pos on day 7 so not much hope in staffing issues being any better this term .

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neveradullmoment99 · 29/12/2021 12:59

Sorry can't link but there is definitely reports of increases in children

Going back to school .
GiveMeNovocain · 29/12/2021 13:02

No one is blaming teachers for going clubbing. It's great they feel confident in a crowded nightclub. Far more risky than a school if you're worried about covid.

blameitonthecaffeine · 29/12/2021 13:05

I have to say there are two groups of people who I think no-one can reasonably criticise for attending massive crowded indoor events like nightclubs - HCPs and teachers

It would be the height of hypocrisy to expect teachers NOT to mix indoors with hundreds of people now within minimal mitigations just so they can go to work to - erm - mix indoors with hundreds of people with absolutely no mitigations

Not sure about this, tbh. For most of us, being able to fulfil our work obligations is pretty high up on our priority list. I am not in the slightest bit concerned about Covid but I would be very worried about having to stay off school again for 7 -10 days for a sniffle (which is all Covid was for me). If I had a job where I could work from home I could have continued with work and affected nobody. So I'd be very happy to go clubbing for NY if I wanted to if I had a work from home job. If I had to be able to leave the house to work, I'd be much more cautious. As would most people, I think?

SaussageRollPuzzle · 29/12/2021 13:11

For the majority of children missing out school is infinitely more harmful than Covid.

cantkeepawayforever · 29/12/2021 13:12

If the catch it they'll just have isolate for 7 days hopefully.

Teachers can't return after 7 days, even after 2 tests 1 day apart under current guidance - after such early release, the Government itself has said that people should wfh, and very strongly advise not going into crowded environments (e.g. classrooms).

cantkeepawayforever · 29/12/2021 13:13

To be clear, the example is mine, not the Government's - but nobody would argue that classrooms are not crowded environments.

DemBonesDemBones · 29/12/2021 13:13

It's not 12 weeks since having covid anymore, it's a month. I had covid end of October and had booster beginning of December.

WhenSheWasBad · 29/12/2021 13:15

If I had to be able to leave the house to work, I'd be much more cautious. As would most people, I think

So those who work from home can have a social life. But anyone who has to leave their house for work has to isolate at home for everything except work?

Sounds fair Hmm

Sherrytriflestrull · 29/12/2021 13:15

@blameitonthecaffeine

I think when you start suggesting that people who work from home are allowed to do things that people who have to put themselves at risk every day at work aren't then you cross the line.

Sherrytriflestrull · 29/12/2021 13:18

@WhenSheWasBad

If I had to be able to leave the house to work, I'd be much more cautious. As would most people, I think

So those who work from home can have a social life. But anyone who has to leave their house for work has to isolate at home for everything except work?

Sounds fair Hmm

Exactly. And they will still send their children into school...