Page 9 | Would you comment on a non-mask wearer when in public?

Dontletthemuggglesgetyoudown · 27/12/2021 20:34

I did see something fairly bizarre at a concert. 2 people didn't wear masks for the first half, put them on at intermission, took them off for the second half. The people sat next to them obviously moved at intermission but they were happy to go maskless for both halves of the concert. With strangers laughing next to them.

It was bizarre

TicTacHoh · 27/12/2021 20:37

No, no, no.

And this - how can anyone tell who is fit or young

If you passed a fit young person coming into a busy venue as you were exiting

Dontletthemuggglesgetyoudown · 27/12/2021 20:41

But no I wouldn't mention it

Bizawit · 27/12/2021 21:29

The mask police make me more anxious than covid

💯!!

Woofington · 27/12/2021 21:34

I’m sure I read this OP in summer last year 😂 but in answer - no. Wouldn’t dream of it. Maybe the young fit person was attacked and held with a hand over their mouth and masks trigger PTSD. Maybe they have another exemption. Maybe it’s not my business.

Dreamstate · 27/12/2021 21:40

People need to mind their own business and keep their opinions and comments to themselves.

CoffeeWithCheese · 27/12/2021 21:41

I thought MNers were all equipped with precocious children who would loudly comment that "that man isn't very caring as he's not wearing a mask and that means he doesn't want to keep other people safe mummy and I know I must always wear a mask and have been since I emerged from the birth canal mummy"

tigger1001 · 27/12/2021 21:47

I wouldn't say anything to someone not wearing a mask. To be honest, I probably wouldn't notice what others are doing.

I wear one grudgingly, as want to avoid confrontation.

XenoBitch · 27/12/2021 22:16

No, and the people who do this are arseholes.
I am unable to wear a mask, and had some bloke come up to me mumbling something. I asked him to repeat it... he pulled his mask down and told me that people like me were the cause of lockdowns.
I have noticed the hard stares too. I had one guy try so hard to get in my eyeline so I could see his angry stare... I guessed that he was trying to get some reaction out of me so he could have a rant.
I am not confrontational at all (I would break down in tears on the floor if someone will insist on telling me what an awful person I am). I am now back to looking at the floor whenever I go in shops.

Holly60 · 27/12/2021 22:29

@Essexmate

Some of you really talk some bullshit on here.

I am medically exempt. I did try to wear a mask but couldn’t, so don’t. Looking at me you’d think I was a young fit person but I’m not. And the thing about whole families can’t be exempt is also shit. As a family of 4, 3 of us are exempt. If we went out with grandparents, as a family of 6, 5 are exempt

See again I think this is attitude. There are a lot of people who might technically be exempt, but who choose to wear a mask. So for example in my family I’m asthmatic, I have a nephew who has ASD, a family member with breathing difficulties caused by heart failure and another person with severe anxiety. All of us could claim we are exempt. All of us wear masks. You don’t HAVE to refuse to wear a mask, just because you can.

Lilifer · 27/12/2021 22:30

@CarrieBlue

I wouldn’t say anything, but I’d give them a hard stare

A hard stare, wow, scary 😐

Iamthewombat · 27/12/2021 23:13

Lots of smokers have breathing problems- they do after all cause them.

Read the thread again and concentrate really hard. Really try.

Yes, smoking causes breathing problems. Self inflicted breathing problems.

Is it reasonable for somebody who has inflicted breathing problems on themselves to put a 90 year old woman at risk of infection by (1) not wearing a mask because of some spurious notion of medical exemption and (2) standing right next to the 90 year old woman in a spacious shop, reaching across her and coughing on her?

This, when the law requires mask wearing in shops, when social distancing is requested in shops, both on signs and on regular announcements, and when the 90 year old lady, who was herself wearing a mask, couldn’t easily move away from the selfish coughing woman?

If you are going to behave like that, and whine, when challenged, that you “can’t breathe in a mask”, then start puffing on a fag minutes later, you don’t have a leg to stand on.

Although some of the odder posters on here seem to think that the perceived rights of the selfish maskless cougher trump those of the old lady, who apparently “isn’t owed social distancing”. I sense the presence of professional victims on this thread.

Pinkandpink · 27/12/2021 23:19

I used to wear a mask all the time, never would I go anywhere without one. I had covid three weeks ago and still struggling with it. Although I’m feeling better, I’m struggling wearing a mask, I can’t breathe. I had to take it off out shopping the other day as I couldn’t catch my breath. If anyone had said anything rude to me, I’d be telling them to sod off.

SickAndTiredAgain · 27/12/2021 23:44

There are a lot of people who might technically be exempt, but who choose to wear a mask. So for example in my family I’m asthmatic

Being asthmatic doesn’t make you exempt. What makes you exempt is if you cannot wear a mask due to a physical or mental illness/condition/impairment. You wear a mask, therefore you can wear a mask, therefore you are not exempt. I suffer from anxiety and panic attacks but fortunately for me, masks are not a trigger for this, therefore I am not exempt. Someone else who suffers panic attacks may well be.

(Obviously there are other exemptions around finding it severely distressing, or being with someone who needs to lip read, but those aren’t the exemptions you meant.)

Viviennemary · 27/12/2021 23:52

No. Mask wearing is an option as it is not being enforced in any meaningful way.

GarlandsinGreece · 28/12/2021 00:24

No. I’m in the suburbs of NY. 99 percent of people from toddlers up wear masks indoors. No such thing as exemptions. I wouldn’t say anything, as I would fear being assaulted. Plus, I honestly don’t care anymore.

XenoBitch · 28/12/2021 00:26

@SickAndTiredAgain

There are a lot of people who might technically be exempt, but who choose to wear a mask. So for example in my family I’m asthmatic

Being asthmatic doesn’t make you exempt. What makes you exempt is if you cannot wear a mask due to a physical or mental illness/condition/impairment. You wear a mask, therefore you can wear a mask, therefore you are not exempt. I suffer from anxiety and panic attacks but fortunately for me, masks are not a trigger for this, therefore I am not exempt. Someone else who suffers panic attacks may well be.

(Obviously there are other exemptions around finding it severely distressing, or being with someone who needs to lip read, but those aren’t the exemptions you meant.)

Yes, this. "Technically exempt" is not thing. There is not a list of conditions that says you are exempt.

XenoBitch · 28/12/2021 00:33

@Iamthewombat

Lots of smokers have breathing problems- they do after all cause them.

Read the thread again and concentrate really hard. Really try.

Yes, smoking causes breathing problems. Self inflicted breathing problems.

Is it reasonable for somebody who has inflicted breathing problems on themselves to put a 90 year old woman at risk of infection by (1) not wearing a mask because of some spurious notion of medical exemption and (2) standing right next to the 90 year old woman in a spacious shop, reaching across her and coughing on her?

This, when the law requires mask wearing in shops, when social distancing is requested in shops, both on signs and on regular announcements, and when the 90 year old lady, who was herself wearing a mask, couldn’t easily move away from the selfish coughing woman?

If you are going to behave like that, and whine, when challenged, that you “can’t breathe in a mask”, then start puffing on a fag minutes later, you don’t have a leg to stand on.

Although some of the odder posters on here seem to think that the perceived rights of the selfish maskless cougher trump those of the old lady, who apparently “isn’t owed social distancing”. I sense the presence of professional victims on this thread.

So if someone had breathing problems that are not self inflicted... you would be ok with them not wearing a mask? But if it is self inflicted... it is not acceptable for them to be maskless?

You know what? I looked on the Gov page about masks and exemptions, and it says sweet fuck all about self inflicted things.

I have a friend who is a big bloke.. tattoos all over, smokes like a chimney (and has the COPD to show for it)... can't wear a mask due to terrible anxiety.

BritWifeInUSA · 28/12/2021 03:47

@FlowerArranger

I don't get this concept of 'exemptions'. Where I live there are no exemptions. Everyone over the age of 2 has to wear a mask.

Same here. If you can’t or won’t wear a mask for shopping then you either do s pick up in your car, have stuff delivered or you send someone else for you.

No lanyards, no cards, no badges here.

clarkkentsglasses · 28/12/2021 04:23

@CarrieBlue

I wouldn’t say anything, but I’d give them a hard stare

Are you Paddington Bear?

generalh · 28/12/2021 05:32

A bit off topic...
We are in England (live in Wales) at the moment. Are masks compulsory in hospitality? We are wearing them but most people aren't. Majority are wearing them in shops and nearly all in our hotel.
Diolch.

carrythecan · 28/12/2021 05:36

No they are not required in hospitality settings in England.

generalh · 28/12/2021 05:55

@carrythecan

No they are not required in hospitality settings in England.

Thanks. 😊

TheVampiresWife · 28/12/2021 06:37

@littlepeas

I hate the sort of black and white thinking of:

Mask wearer - upstanding member of society, selfless, intelligent, thinks constantly of others, etc.

Non-mask wearer - selfish, stupid dick.

There are plenty of dickheads in masks. You can’t sort people into good and bad based on whether they wear a mask or not (or by any measure, really).

I don’t like confrontation, so I wear a mask. The mask police make me more anxious than covid. I suspect that’s the case for many people.

This.

The man who took down his mask to spit at me because I wasn't wearing one (I have trigeminal neuralgia) is a prime example of masked dickhead.

Ditto the ones who have threatened me, shouted that I was a disease breathed tramp, that I don't deserve NHS help if I catch covid, etc etc etc. All masked. All dickheads.

KatherineJaneway · 28/12/2021 06:40

There are so many non-mask wearers, I'd be saying something all the time.