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Insane panic

82 replies

Acidburn · 27/12/2021 12:52

Hi All
I feel like the majority of people around me have lost the plot really. If Omicron is essentially a cold (for the vaxxinated people) then why is everyone so scared of it? Why is there a conversation for more restrictions to come? Why do we need restrictions to fight a common cold (which is what Omicron is apparently)? In New Zealand and South Africa they have removed all the restrictions, because it just a cold ffs - people don't even self isolate anymore if they get it! Why the panic mode again?
I suppose for those who chose not to get vaccinated - it might be more than a common cold. But then it's a consequence of their own choice - I'm sure they thought it through.

So why do we panick again?

OP posts:
MyGreenTutu · 27/12/2021 16:11

@Clarkey86

I’m not panicking about ME. I am nervous about the capacity of the NHS to be able to cope and still provide adequate care for others in need.

I thought that was fairly well documented now.

Not only the NHS. What about HGV supermarket deliveries, refuse collectors, bus and train drivers, petrol station workers and fuel deliveries? Pretty basic infrastructure that could very easily collapse if too many people get this thing at once.
Whammyyammy · 27/12/2021 16:39

@Takemine

You can't spell panic which makes me think you either have dyslexia or don't have the benefit of further education.

I'm saying this because to understand, you would have to read and analyse.

There are many threads explaining why increased transmissibility increases hospitalisations more than increased severity of illness. Also other threads pointing out that our vaccines don't give full cover so if even a small proportion are ill, it could still be a very large number. Also plenty of threads pointing out that it's not just the unvaccinated who are at risk but the elderly, CEV and anyone who might need the services of the NHS while they are being cared for. The unvaccinated are not going to be left to die so they're a problem, as is waning nation with waning immunity and a virus that moves faster than the booster roll out. This is not panic (though thanks for writing off my well founded concern for my CEV son as such) but just stating the facts.

So before you spend the afternoon listening to yourself posting from a place of apparent ignorance, I suggest you do some reading.

You sound lovely
MarshaBradyo · 27/12/2021 16:42

But as their fully boosted 3- vaccination rate is pretty low compared to UK, now Omicron is circulating in NZ it may still hit them pretty hard.

Do they have community cases of omicron?

I know some Aus states do for first time in a long time, due to opening borders

Youarefakenews · 27/12/2021 18:00

[quote 2bazookas]@Queenzoopla

And I'm sick sick sick of this "NHS will be overwhelmed" business : if the government had been funding the NHS properly it wouldn't be "overwhelmed" would it.

Yes, it would, because that is the process of pandemics.
ANY health system has a finite number of buildings, beds, staff. When unprecedented circumstances produce a flood of additional inpatients, and staff infections reduce the number available to work, no system has enough resilience to take up the slack. While still maintaining the usual services.

Nurses and doctors take years to train so the supply can't just be re-stocked like goods on supermarket shelves.[/quote]
Extra demand has always existed during Winters. NHS staff have always had to struggle into work with the usual Winter bugs we all suffer through annually.

A lot of people need to start looking at the actual figures & not at the media hysteria. Even at the very peak of hospitalisations, Covid patients only accounted for 25% of hospital beds. Now given that at that point the NHS was only dealing with emergency Patients, There was a shed load of underused capacity.

Have a think about all those silly tic toc videos put out by medical staff. A great many staff had it pretty damn easy during Covid, While their colleagues were working themselves silly.

VaguelyInteresting · 27/12/2021 18:05

Literally bollocks re: New Zealand, OP, as a quick google will tell you:

www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-health-advice-public/covid-19-self-isolation-managed-isolation-quarantine

Bot, much?

Fishlipandtoeface · 27/12/2021 18:08

It’s not the common cold though is it.

It’s still SARS.

Cookerhood · 27/12/2021 19:37

They are all coronaviruses, so closely related.

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