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Why are we not in lockdown right now?!

330 replies

InkyPinkyParlezVous · 16/12/2021 12:18

If things are as bad as they say, why are we not locking down right now?

Surely waiting til after Christmas is just too late to stop this "tidal wave"

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paranoidnamechanger · 16/12/2021 20:52

Have you heard this country is in debt to the tune of over £2 trillion? We can't afford another lockdown, which the government know. The boosters are doing a great job, anyway.

Nellodee · 16/12/2021 20:52

I think I'd probably give a warning that we would lock down on Monday, with a partial loosening over Christmas, get your shopping finished this weekend. The government are gambling that hospitalizations will be far lower than delta and I think they're betting on long odds. They should be focusing on essential supply chains and they can't even sort that when covid isn't rampant.

MarshaBradyo · 16/12/2021 20:54

@Nellodee

I think I'd probably give a warning that we would lock down on Monday, with a partial loosening over Christmas, get your shopping finished this weekend. The government are gambling that hospitalizations will be far lower than delta and I think they're betting on long odds. They should be focusing on essential supply chains and they can't even sort that when covid isn't rampant.
And then after Christmas?
AliceA2021 · 16/12/2021 20:54

The scientists are worried.
The government less so.
The population in the main seem much less so.
The 'do my own research' brigade still think it's a plan to control us.
Different opinions, many fixed now.

Who will be right. Will hospital cases rise. Will the NHS struggle. Will others things be delayed to treat covid patients. The scientists think it will be bad. Others think an overreaction. Very polarised.

Nellodee · 16/12/2021 20:55

I think also they should be far more transparent about long term planning. They should either give an eta on adaptive vaccines, so people know this won't happen every year, our if they do think it will happen for a few years, they need to start planning a rearrangement off the school year.

Nellodee · 16/12/2021 20:58

Covid is seasonal. Right now, we have our longest school break in summer to cope with getting the harvest in and our biggest social gathering in the middle of winter. If this is going to be a more permanent state of affairs, were going to need too rethink that.

Whammyyammy · 16/12/2021 21:00

We borrowed a fortune to pay for previous lockdowns while we awaited a vaccine.

We've spent a fortune to ensure the population have a vaccine available to all.

We've rolled out this booster rapidly.

Yet people still want an extended paid holiday at government expense after Christmas 🤷‍♂️

Lock yourself down and allow the rest of to crack on

Nellodee · 16/12/2021 21:01

Right now, it feels like we've had a run of bad winters with heavy snow, but no ones investing in chains for their tyres and the country is shutting down each time. If the weather has changed permanently, we need to accept that and adapt so we minimise disruption. Train more health staff, build more surge capacity, structure round the seasonality.

madroid · 16/12/2021 21:03

@paranoidnamechanger

Do you know the cost to the economy of millions of people off ill/long covid/isolating/dying?

It's actually more than £2 trillion... plus there's the other concern of the human misery caused (not that many people seem that concerned about that)

Pixxie7 · 16/12/2021 21:20

I was thinking the same thing but I think it’s down to economics and Boris is worried about his reputation.

the80sweregreat · 16/12/2021 21:32

@AliceA2021

The scientists are worried. The government less so. The population in the main seem much less so. The 'do my own research' brigade still think it's a plan to control us. Different opinions, many fixed now.

Who will be right. Will hospital cases rise. Will the NHS struggle. Will others things be delayed to treat covid patients. The scientists think it will be bad. Others think an overreaction. Very polarised.

Yes, you've hit the nail on the head here The whole thing is causing so much division too :( it is depressing.
Thatldo · 17/12/2021 06:29

I am only mentioning it,because it is said so many times:the british people dont like being told what to do.
Are you kidding yourself.the british people love obeying (mostly) unnecessary rules:queueing,school uniform etc.

Brighton5555 · 17/12/2021 07:44

@Thatldo

I am only mentioning it,because it is said so many times:the british people dont like being told what to do. Are you kidding yourself.the british people love obeying (mostly) unnecessary rules:queueing,school uniform etc.
This ^ 😂😂😂

Just last week I didn’t see a lady lining up at the Sainsburys self checkout so went ahead and the shriek of EXCUSE MEEEEEEE was enough to be heard from there to the bread isle …

I did actually tell her to calm down , but yes British do love to follow ‘ rules ‘ 🤣

DottyHarmer · 17/12/2021 08:56

I haven’t shrieked at anybody but it doesn’t half give me the rage when people are patiently queueing and some oblivious (or purposely oblivious) so and so breezes up to the till, as if the long line of customers is actually just gearing up to do a conga.

In the POst Office a line was snaking out of the door. Someone came in and walked right up to the counter! I must say they were nearly lynched. Likewise in Costa et al when someone queue jumps and when challenged says, “Oh, I only want a coffee.” Angry

I don’t think queuing is following “unnecessary rules”. It is simply good manners and considering others. Anyone who believes that queueing is somehow silly and “British” is just a Me First selfish git.

Brighton5555 · 17/12/2021 09:20

😂😂😂😂😂

Thatldo · 17/12/2021 09:56

@DottyHarmer

I haven’t shrieked at anybody but it doesn’t half give me the rage when people are patiently queueing and some oblivious (or purposely oblivious) so and so breezes up to the till, as if the long line of customers is actually just gearing up to do a conga.

In the POst Office a line was snaking out of the door. Someone came in and walked right up to the counter! I must say they were nearly lynched. Likewise in Costa et al when someone queue jumps and when challenged says, “Oh, I only want a coffee.” Angry

I don’t think queuing is following “unnecessary rules”. It is simply good manners and considering others. Anyone who believes that queueing is somehow silly and “British” is just a Me First selfish git.

In other countries,people seem polite to other people without needing to be told to be polite.it looks like in Britain,people need a rule in order to be polite.
Thatldo · 17/12/2021 09:57

@Brighton5555

😂😂😂😂😂
This ^
the80sweregreat · 17/12/2021 14:42

I'm in my 50s and I remember the days when people did do what they were advised to do and ( mostly ) toed the line.
The rot set in around the mid 70s , attitudes changed a lot and society seemed to become much more fractured and just more badly behaved.
I know I'll be accused of 'rose coloured glasses ' and I know that lots of bad things did happen of course , but people's sense of entitlement has altered greatly and there is a general feeling of me first and blow everyone else.
People are much more selfish and self absorbed generally and less genuine. It's all about what you have and your status in life.
I'm just fed up with so many people these days.

IWannaWishYouANutNutsChristmas · 17/12/2021 19:24

Nicola Sturgeon on why she needs the U.K. treasury to act to help Scottish businesses:

twitter.com/davidtimscott/status/1471835812304146437?s=21

Peakedtoosoon · 18/12/2021 09:58

@the80sweregreat

I'm in my 50s and I remember the days when people did do what they were advised to do and ( mostly ) toed the line. The rot set in around the mid 70s , attitudes changed a lot and society seemed to become much more fractured and just more badly behaved. I know I'll be accused of 'rose coloured glasses ' and I know that lots of bad things did happen of course , but people's sense of entitlement has altered greatly and there is a general feeling of me first and blow everyone else. People are much more selfish and self absorbed generally and less genuine. It's all about what you have and your status in life. I'm just fed up with so many people these days.
If you're in your 50s you must have only hazy memories of a time before the 70s?

It's a myth that the population was compliant even in WW2. Were air raid wardens for fun?

Egghead68 · 18/12/2021 15:57

@the80sweregreat

I'm in my 50s and I remember the days when people did do what they were advised to do and ( mostly ) toed the line. The rot set in around the mid 70s , attitudes changed a lot and society seemed to become much more fractured and just more badly behaved. I know I'll be accused of 'rose coloured glasses ' and I know that lots of bad things did happen of course , but people's sense of entitlement has altered greatly and there is a general feeling of me first and blow everyone else. People are much more selfish and self absorbed generally and less genuine. It's all about what you have and your status in life. I'm just fed up with so many people these days.
Yes, since Thatcher we have become a much more individualistic society. Sad
the80sweregreat · 18/12/2021 16:03

I was ten in 1976 , I remember it because it was a long hot summer !
I said that not everything was rosy , would be naive to think this, but I just think that people seemed less self absorbed and more community minded. Plus listening to my parents and their stories about WW 2 as well. They knew there was a black market for things, but that is human nature isn't it ? Plus someone always makes money from a disaster !
I think I was just trying to say that people were more likely to be compliant than they are now , that's all.

DismantledKing · 18/12/2021 16:04

@the80sweregreat

I was ten in 1976 , I remember it because it was a long hot summer ! I said that not everything was rosy , would be naive to think this, but I just think that people seemed less self absorbed and more community minded. Plus listening to my parents and their stories about WW 2 as well. They knew there was a black market for things, but that is human nature isn't it ? Plus someone always makes money from a disaster ! I think I was just trying to say that people were more likely to be compliant than they are now , that's all.
Crime was rife during the Blitz. Looting, housebreaking etc. There was no mythical ‘golden age’.
Peakedtoosoon · 18/12/2021 16:07

@the80sweregreat

I was ten in 1976 , I remember it because it was a long hot summer ! I said that not everything was rosy , would be naive to think this, but I just think that people seemed less self absorbed and more community minded. Plus listening to my parents and their stories about WW 2 as well. They knew there was a black market for things, but that is human nature isn't it ? Plus someone always makes money from a disaster ! I think I was just trying to say that people were more likely to be compliant than they are now , that's all.
1976 was a prime example of people not doing as they were asked for the greater good.

We had to have stand pipes for water because people didn't reduce water usage voluntarily

AlecTrevelyan006 · 18/12/2021 16:10

[quote IWannaWishYouANutNutsChristmas]Nicola Sturgeon on why she needs the U.K. treasury to act to help Scottish businesses:

twitter.com/davidtimscott/status/1471835812304146437?s=21[/quote]
She is nuts