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Are are we now numb.

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Aldinho57 · 14/12/2021 18:08

Went in to Norwich ASDA today first time been to in months but the 25% off 6 bottles of wine lured me in, I was amazed at how many people of all ages were not wearing face coverings, is it that we are now so fed up and numb from all the Covid hype that we don’t care or is it the frustration of having Boris and his cronies getting away with it time and time again, like the party that was not a party or the second jobs or the £840.00 rolls of wallpaper that he decorated his flat with that we don't wear on on principal ?, cos we all do that don’t we £840.00 per roll that’s as much as some people take home in a month, anyway I understand some people have certain medical conditions where they don’t have to wear a face covering but why is it they always appear in twos ?, how does that work is there a website called lanyards .com where they arrange to go shopping together, any way got the wine NO Turkeys should be some in stock later so they said not getting my hopes up.

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Hdkatznahtw125sgh · 14/12/2021 23:37

I’m in Scotland.

I’d say most people here wear masks (it has always remained). I do think a few people who aren’t exempt are claiming to be exempt but overall most people are wearing them.

I’m an ICU nurse, and when I no longer have patients dying, after their relatives have said goodbye over the phone, and after the patient has had a prolonged stay in ICU connected to a ventilator, sedated, paralysed and proned. When there is no longer a covid ICU, I will stop wearing a mask in indoor public places.

I do think the public is numb, and sadly unless they have had a family member or close friend die from covid I think they will remain numb and uncaring, but will complain that the nhs isn’t fit the purpose.

ilovesooty · 15/12/2021 00:03

@Claudethecat

Oh sorry! I do have a bit of trouble recognising sarcasm, it is true. There was me thinking you were just being nasty.
If that's what you thought, I thought the same.
Wokemon · 15/12/2021 00:26

@Hdkatznahtw125sgh

I’m in Scotland.

I’d say most people here wear masks (it has always remained). I do think a few people who aren’t exempt are claiming to be exempt but overall most people are wearing them.

I’m an ICU nurse, and when I no longer have patients dying, after their relatives have said goodbye over the phone, and after the patient has had a prolonged stay in ICU connected to a ventilator, sedated, paralysed and proned. When there is no longer a covid ICU, I will stop wearing a mask in indoor public places.

I do think the public is numb, and sadly unless they have had a family member or close friend die from covid I think they will remain numb and uncaring, but will complain that the nhs isn’t fit the purpose.

Since when do icu nurses no longer have patients dying Hmm it's a basic fact of the job. The fact relatives have to say goodbye over the phone is not a natural consequence, but that of idiotic rules.
beentoldcomputersaysno · 15/12/2021 05:21

Lots of people don't understand the whole refusal to wear a mask thing - it's such a tiny thing. Having read the responses, I still don't get it (well not anymore than understanding someone who wanted to regularly drink and drive).

Dishhh · 15/12/2021 05:54

@Wokemon

I’m an ICU nurse, and when I no longer have COVID! patients dying, after their relatives have said goodbye over the phone, and after the patient has had a prolonged stay in ICU connected to a ventilator, sedated, paralysed and proned. When there is no longer a covid ICU, I will stop wearing a mask in indoor public places.

Since when do icu nurses no longer have patients dying it's a basic fact of the job. The fact relatives have to say goodbye over the phone is not a natural consequence, but that of idiotic rules.

Since it needs to spelled out carefully for you, I added a word above. And regarding the phone thing, that is horrifying, but I wouldn't exactly call it idiotic. Wouldn't the patient still be infectious and capable of passing that infection on? Wouldn't they be on a ward of equally infectious people?

TheVampiresWife · 15/12/2021 07:03

@Lacedwithgrace

I'm not numb to people who don't wear masks. I don't mind calling them a cunt under my breath
Do you ask if they're exempt before you call them a cunt or do you just go right ahead and judge anyway?
RancidOldHag · 15/12/2021 07:07

What is it about expensive wallpaper?

After all, Labour (Derry Irving) spent £650,000 on wallpaper - paid for by the sodding tax payer.

It's like a collective hysteria

TheVampiresWife · 15/12/2021 07:07

FWIW I agree with you, but all of the special snowflakes will come out of the woodwork and say they can’t wear one because someone once pulled their pony tail and now they are triggered

Do you often poke fun at rape/DV survivors or is today special?

By the way, you sound like an outraged Twitter account whose profile picture is a flag, circa 2015. Cringe!

CovidCorvid · 15/12/2021 07:11

Dunno. But in our village shop last night were 3 guys who work at the pcr swabbing centre down the road (still had their coats on) and none of them were wearing masks. I can’t normally give a shit about who isn’t wearing masks but did think they weren’t setting a good example. But then they’re probably on NMW and also probably really can’t give a shit.

I do think Boris has a lot to answer for. If the leaders don’t follow the rules why should others.

BogRollBOGOF · 15/12/2021 07:49

Isn't it lovely how the return of the mask threads bring out the warmth of human compassion. In the summer it was "I'll continue to wear one because I'm considerate" now it's muttering "cunt" when you don't know what hidden disability/ health difficulties someone has, just in case they're a chancer.
So considerate.

Attitudes like that meant in 2020 I tried to cover my face in various ways and ended up with weekly panic attacks/ overwhelm on the supermarket, about the one place I kept going to in order not to give in to agrophobia. I reached my limit in New Year when the overwhelm reached the point of self-harming. I tried beyond what is reasonable, I've kept up to date with vaccinations.

I don't cover my face in 2021 because I have given of myself more than I reasonably can, and I doubt I am alone on that. Vaccination has reduced my risk far more than trying to cover my face and ripping off the object in 2-5 minutes as the hyperventilating kicks in.

Thank goodness that the various shop staff that have supported me have been far kinder than the MN self-appointed mask police.

Am I numb? Probably, but only having 4 months of something vaguely ressembling normality in nearly 2 years, and much of that time being unable to interact with people beyond my household will do that. My priority is my immediate family and it is hard to care that much for hypothetical grannies when due to travel restrictions and care home policies, my children haven't seen their actual granny for well over two years and any kind of minor cold or infection could mean we never see her again because there is far more to life and death than Covid. I certainly care far less about the chances of meeting a mask-bully in the supermarket than I did a year ago.

paranoidnamechanger · 15/12/2021 07:58

And that is how children are abused and killed. Good job

@MaskingForIt That is such a horrible comparison you made.

TheVampiresWife · 15/12/2021 08:14

@Lacedwithgrace @MaskingForIt

I bet both of you consider yourselves to be caring, empathic people, don't you? It's always the caring, empathetic people on threads like this who call people who may be disabled or living with health conditions 'cunts', 'snowflakes', 'triggered' and the like. So caring and kind.

leafygarden42 · 15/12/2021 08:25

@CBroads and @teaandtoastwithmarmite and all those who don't wear masks in shops etc

I don't say anything but always think to myself 'And what makes you so special?'

The point is - wearing a mask is easy - very easy.

And you do so to protect other people ie it's good manners.

So maybe just get over yourself and crack on.

TheVampiresWife · 15/12/2021 08:34

The point is - wearing a mask is easy - very easy

Not for everyone, it isn't.

GoldenOmber · 15/12/2021 08:35

The point is - wearing a mask is easy - very easy.

It is very easy FOR YOU. It is not very easy for everyone. It is not easy for me, for example (although I do it anyway as it’s law and I’m not exempt). Having people repeat “but it’s so easy! It’s such a little tiny simple thing!” does not make it become easy and tiny and simple, and does not make people who don’t find it as easy as you do more willing to do it. Also it makes it sound like you’re willing to do things based on how easy and simple and trivial they are - in which case, why should other people do things you find easy rather than things they find easy?

For the life of me, I can’t fathom why people think “but I don’t mind doing it!” is a better argument for other people doing it than “yes, it is a hassle and harder for some than others, but you should do it anyway because, etc.”

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 15/12/2021 08:38

@leafygarden42 it's not easy for everyone to wear one actually. I'm not explaining myself to you but 'crack on' and stop bothering me.

AliceA2021 · 15/12/2021 09:08

"I do think the public is numb, and sadly unless they have had a family member or close friend die from covid I think they will remain numb and uncaring, but will complain that the nhs isn’t fit the purpose."

This.
My neice works on a covid ward and says that the reason there are delays is that many don't bother to do there bit to prevent spread. We see it daily on here eg sister has covid but family going to visit, or it's mild I cannot be bothered, etc etc. Yet these very same people moan that the NHS waiting lists have gone up - duh that's because they are dealing with covid. Some people are so dumb that they cannot connect the dots.

AliceA2021 · 15/12/2021 09:09

oh dear bad day sp check niece and their

puppeteer · 15/12/2021 09:17

I think people can connect the dots.

What you’re seeing isn’t so much that people can’t or don’t get it, but an expression that “there must be another way”.

We’ve been told so often to hunker down for one final push. Every time, there’s been needed another one after the last. It’s not been a deliberate lie perhaps, but it has been wrong.

If you see things being repeated, and repeatedly failing, you’re dumb if you don’t question it.

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 15/12/2021 09:21

I do care absolutely but this government tell us to do one thing whilst they do another.

hivemindneeded · 15/12/2021 09:35

I went out for drinks last night, sitting outside. When I went to the bar, I was the only person in there except one staff member, who wore a mask. Everyone was crowded around, chatting and laughing, without masks. I don't get it. I strongly believe we shouldn't lock down again but it makes sense to take easy precautions wherever we can.

WheelieBinPrincess · 15/12/2021 09:39

@hivemindneeded

Chatting and laughing! In the pub!! Imagine.

TheVampiresWife · 15/12/2021 09:42

@hivemindneeded

I went out for drinks last night, sitting outside. When I went to the bar, I was the only person in there except one staff member, who wore a mask. Everyone was crowded around, chatting and laughing, without masks. I don't get it. I strongly believe we shouldn't lock down again but it makes sense to take easy precautions wherever we can.
I've never understood the need to wear masks in pubs while you're standing, but not while you're sitting.

I was in Scotland earlier this year and you had to wear a mask to go to the toilet - but our seat was on a communal table, and we had strangers sitting within about a foot of us on either side, unmasked because they were sitting. Everyone was talking loudly, laughing and so on. So that's not a risk, but walking to the toilet is?

I agree masks are useful in most settings but that seemed completely ludicrous to me.

AliceA2021 · 15/12/2021 09:42

@puppeteer

I think people can connect the dots.

What you’re seeing isn’t so much that people can’t or don’t get it, but an expression that “there must be another way”.

We’ve been told so often to hunker down for one final push. Every time, there’s been needed another one after the last. It’s not been a deliberate lie perhaps, but it has been wrong.

If you see things being repeated, and repeatedly failing, you’re dumb if you don’t question it.

I get what you are saying but if the hospital has covid patients then they have to treat them. If the number of cases of covid is so high that other surgeries etc have to be postponed then trying to lower the number of covid cases makes sense.

So what is the answer then, forget the masks, forget any restrictions and let the people get infected and take the deaths just to show we are 'over it' and cannot be bothered anymore. How's that going to work out. I guess for people that lose loved ones it's not acceptable but for others who are barely affected then it's collateral damage in order to just get on with things. However, just getting on with things isn't that easy since there are the inconvenient patients with covid that need treatment.

TheVampiresWife · 15/12/2021 09:43

[quote WheelieBinPrincess]@hivemindneeded

Chatting and laughing! In the pub!! Imagine.[/quote]
GRANNY MURDERERS!!!!