Page 7 | If you’re trying to decide whether to go to a Christmas party

AchillesLastStand · 2021-12-13T15:22:19+00:00

Victoria Derbyshire on Twitter has shared that her triple vaccinated brother contracted omicron at a Christmas meal out. Out of 21 one of them 17 have now tested positive. [[https://twitter.com/vicderbyshire/status/1469354766560026624]] Imagine thousands of similar mini super-spreading events up and down the country this week and where that could lead.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 13/12/2021 19:27

Anyone possible should be discharged to care homes, hospices, their own homes and hotels before Christmas in order to free up beds, amid warnings that January could see hospitals caring for even greater numbers of patients than they did at the worst point of the pandemic back in January.

oh hotels?

TheVampiresWife · 13/12/2021 19:29

This new variant is looking and acting like a completely new virus

No it doesn't and no it isn't.

Please stop posting hyperbolic misinformation.

OnlyonemoresleeptilChristmas · 13/12/2021 19:32

@reallyagain

It's known that LFTs aren't effective once you have symptoms - that's why LFT need to be taken regularly to pick up infection before symptoms. That absolutely does not mean LFT aren't effective - they've been proven to be highly effective at this

They have a high false negative rate so shouldn’t be used with symptoms to stop people wrongly thinking they don’t have Covid and spreading it about. They don’t suddenly stop being able to pick up Covid in people with symptoms!

I do know 2 lots of people-no symptoms at all-who tested negative with
LFT but we’re positive with PCR. The PCR tests were random 5 & 8 day tests because they knew they had been in contact with someone who later tested positive.

TheVampiresWife · 13/12/2021 19:33

@AchillesLastStand so let's get this straight - you're saying that people who work closely together all day shouldn't be sitting together at a pub or restaurant after work? Why? Does covid know when it's clocking off time and only infect people past 6pm?

ancientgran · 13/12/2021 19:33

@MrsLargeEmbodied

Anyone possible should be discharged to care homes, hospices, their own homes and hotels before Christmas in order to free up beds, amid warnings that January could see hospitals caring for even greater numbers of patients than they did at the worst point of the pandemic back in January.

oh hotels?

That went well last year.

I know the care home where I work won't take anyone.

Northernsoullover · 13/12/2021 19:33

Well, it just shows that they weren't exaggerating when they said how infectious the gnarly fucker omicron is were they? As it happens I did go to mu Christmas party but that's my last foray into the festivities and I hope I'm unscathed.

callingon · 13/12/2021 19:35

If it’s that bad then the government need to give us very clear instructions about mixing. At this point I don’t care about the risk of getting COVID at a Christmas party because it’s the same people I work in close proximity with all day every day, half of us have had it because it’s impossible to social distance in our workplace and seeing as there are now barely any measures in place I could get it on the bus, on the train, in a shop where hardly anyone is wearing a mask… I’ll do what I’m told but I don’t have the information the government has about this so I can’t make informed decisions. There’s no point giving people half-arsed instructions and mixed messaging.

Dreamstate · 13/12/2021 19:38

@AchillesLastStand

That’s nice. Some lovely selfish posters on here who are more than happy to pass the virus on to anyone they meet, and will directly contribute to the next lockdown and schools closing.

Oh cry me a river!

I don't care what you think. As one scientist said you would have to live like a hermit to not get it.

I hope you have locke dup all your windows and dood and have a covid filter in place to ensure your getting clean air into your house. Dont ever step outside your house. Having everything delivered to you and wearing a hazmat suit to pick it up from outside and a decontamination area to make sure it doesn't come from your deliveries.

You want to live like that, you do you!

Me? I accept ill die one day its fact of life. How id ie and when I die who knows but ill live my life to the fullest doing things I enjoy so that if I do go early I know in my last moments that I had a good life not living in fear of something I cant see.

You can rant and rave and get mad at other people all you loke, call us selfish etc. But one thing you can't do is buy more time or go back in time. So you spend your time how you want to and stop passing judgement on others.

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AchillesLastStand · 13/12/2021 19:38

[quote TheVampiresWife]@AchillesLastStand so let's get this straight - you're saying that people who work closely together all day shouldn't be sitting together at a pub or restaurant after work? Why? Does covid know when it's clocking off time and only infect people past 6pm?[/quote]
It’s not just me but it’s the scientific consensus. The government are too cowardly to admit it’s gong to be a problem. And it’s not just attending the party is it? What about the people working at the venue who are likely to be in their 20s and yet to have a booster vaccine? You’ll be spending a lot of time in that venue, much more than you would a shop for example.

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lanbro · 13/12/2021 19:42

I have a hospitality business, for as long as I'm mingling with people every day I will do it in my free time as well, life needs to go on!

BarkminsterBlue · 13/12/2021 19:43

I don’t see where she says it’s Omicron.

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AchillesLastStand · 13/12/2021 19:44

@TheVampiresWife

This new variant is looking and acting like a completely new virus

No it doesn't and no it isn't.

Please stop posting hyperbolic misinformation.

Under a microscope it does. It’s likely mutated with another coronavirus and is much more contagious as a result. Our extant antibodies whether through natural infection or two vaccinations can’t defeat it on their own.

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Onerulefor1 · 13/12/2021 19:45

My dd works for the nhs in a frontline position. The team she works with have had their Christmas night out booked for months. They all received emails from the Head of Nursing, informing them that they had to cancel the night out, if they didn’t they may face a disciplinary. They are responsible workers (who certainly deserved some fun after the horrible time they have had dealing with Covid patients) and had already decided to cancel their night out.

Today my dd has seen photos, on Facebook, of the hospital managers (including the one who had sent the email) enjoying their Christmas night out last Friday!

It shows that there is one rule for managers, and one for the minions who have struggled and worked many more hours that they should have (trying to save people’s lives), for more than a year and a half! Absolutely disgusting behaviour by those in charge of the hospital.

MLMshouldbeillegal · 13/12/2021 19:47

This preachiness is so March 2020. All the "don't go out or you'll kill granny". People being "shamed" for buying Easter Eggs.

And still in December 2021 we have peaches like the OP popping on to dish out her view of what we should or should not to do, and giving her (unwanted) opinion on people who don't conform to her ideas.

So bored with it.

XenoBitch · 13/12/2021 19:48

@Onerulefor1

My dd works for the nhs in a frontline position. The team she works with have had their Christmas night out booked for months. They all received emails from the Head of Nursing, informing them that they had to cancel the night out, if they didn’t they may face a disciplinary. They are responsible workers (who certainly deserved some fun after the horrible time they have had dealing with Covid patients) and had already decided to cancel their night out.

Today my dd has seen photos, on Facebook, of the hospital managers (including the one who had sent the email) enjoying their Christmas night out last Friday!

It shows that there is one rule for managers, and one for the minions who have struggled and worked many more hours that they should have (trying to save people’s lives), for more than a year and a half! Absolutely disgusting behaviour by those in charge of the hospital.

Bloody hell! I would be fucking fuming.

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AchillesLastStand · 13/12/2021 19:49

@Onerulefor1

My dd works for the nhs in a frontline position. The team she works with have had their Christmas night out booked for months. They all received emails from the Head of Nursing, informing them that they had to cancel the night out, if they didn’t they may face a disciplinary. They are responsible workers (who certainly deserved some fun after the horrible time they have had dealing with Covid patients) and had already decided to cancel their night out.

Today my dd has seen photos, on Facebook, of the hospital managers (including the one who had sent the email) enjoying their Christmas night out last Friday!

It shows that there is one rule for managers, and one for the minions who have struggled and worked many more hours that they should have (trying to save people’s lives), for more than a year and a half! Absolutely disgusting behaviour by those in charge of the hospital.

That sounds familiar doesn’t it!

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MrsLargeEmbodied · 13/12/2021 19:49

nhs, if we do go out, we must not share on social media!

HesterShaw1 · 13/12/2021 19:49

@MLMshouldbeillegal

This preachiness is so March 2020. All the "don't go out or you'll kill granny". People being "shamed" for buying Easter Eggs.

And still in December 2021 we have peaches like the OP popping on to dish out her view of what we should or should not to do, and giving her (unwanted) opinion on people who don't conform to her ideas.

So bored with it.

Yep. Really fucking tedious.

Thank goodness loads more people have seen sense

TheVampiresWife · 13/12/2021 19:50

And it’s not just attending the party is it? What about the people working at the venue who are likely to be in their 20s and yet to have a booster vaccine? You’ll be spending a lot of time in that venue, much more than you would a shop for example

And what about the people you sit next to on public transport for your commute? Or the staff at the café you go to for lunch? Or the volunteers at the vaccination centre? Or? Or? Or?

Gwenhwyfar · 13/12/2021 19:50

@LemonSwan

Surely the cause of this is someone not bothering to LFT before hand?

I just had a packed weekend of social events and every single one, everyone attending was asked to and did an LFT.

Surely that is the solution rather than cancelling everything?

I'll be in the UK over Christmas. I've heard you can get them free if you order them or something. Can anyone explain? I'm on the continent and we don't have a culture of doing LFTs all the time at all.

BitterTits · 13/12/2021 19:50

If we had a Christmas party planned, I'd still be going. I've been in a classroom with several positive cases this week so it's going to make no difference to my chances, and I'm not living in isolation for the benefit of people who don't have to take risks anymore.

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AchillesLastStand · 13/12/2021 19:51

@MLMshouldbeillegal

This preachiness is so March 2020. All the "don't go out or you'll kill granny". People being "shamed" for buying Easter Eggs.

And still in December 2021 we have peaches like the OP popping on to dish out her view of what we should or should not to do, and giving her (unwanted) opinion on people who don't conform to her ideas.

So bored with it.

You can listen to the scientific consensus or behave like a petulant child.

This time next week this discussion will have moved on a lot.

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SmellyOldOwls · 13/12/2021 19:51

I'll do the tests and wash my hands and socially distance but I'm not going to lock myself away.

TheVampiresWife · 13/12/2021 19:51

Under a microscope it does. It’s likely mutated with another coronavirus and is much more contagious as a result

I like to think I keep abreast of covid news but I've not seen this anywhere. Which scientists are saying this? Is it a consensus?

Gwenhwyfar · 13/12/2021 19:52

"Today my dd has seen photos, on Facebook, of the hospital managers (including the one who had sent the email) enjoying their Christmas night out last Friday!"

Are the hospital managers in close contact with patients though?