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Is anyone else still completely unvaccinated?

353 replies

Honeyhorse · 13/12/2021 08:09

I know this will probably cause arguments, but I’m just wondering who else is still completely unvaccinated like myself.
Mine is due to extreme anxiety and a needle phobia.
I’m not anti vaccination and I don’t think it’s a conspiracy theory or microchip etc.
I want to talk to my GP about how I’m feeling but I can’t get an appointment Sad
Now everyone is getting boosters and I haven’t even had one, I feel embarrassed and ashamed, but I can’t do it, it’s like I need to be knocked unconscious before I’ll have it. I’ve even walked into the vaccination centre but ended up leaving after a few minutes as I had a panic attack.

I don’t know what to do.

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JanisMoplin · 13/12/2021 09:42

yes @Faevern but you are about 65% to 90% LESS likely to pass it on if you are vaxxed because you are less likely to get it. This is not disputed. Why do you think some of us have vaxxed our healthy teens?To stop them dying?

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NinaDefoe · 13/12/2021 09:44

Yes, someone I am close to is unvaccinated. Having witnessed the panic attack when they tried to go I can understand why.
This person was absolutely beside himself.

JanisMoplin · 13/12/2021 09:45

MN really needs to step up the moderation. Don't get the vax. But god, the lies on here. It is anti-vax bingo

Experimental drug: No, it is not.
Boris is making us have it. No, he is not.
Getting vaxxed doesn't stop you from spreading it. No, but it reduces the chances hugely. ( Omicron data yet to come)
I eat lots of vegetables. So do the millions of Indians who died!

shinynewapple21 · 13/12/2021 09:46

Hi OP I wonder if taking something like diazepam before your vaccination would help you ? Definitely persevere with your GP, you probably only need a phone chat or video appointment rather than face to face. Do you have a system at your GP surgery where you can write your health concern in an email to them first?

Faevern · 13/12/2021 09:47

My son in law is still unvaccinated, everyone in their household had Covid at the same time except him. Their youngest child caught it at school then their older sibling, then their mother. He isolated with them but never tested positive or had any symptoms.

He's not an anti-vaxxer, but for whatever reason he has not been jabbed.

I do think the vaccination programme has worked though and my other DD is a nurse and said most of their Covid patients are unvaccinated.

Charlieiscool · 13/12/2021 09:48

Looking on the bright side; if you catch covid your needle phobia will go out the window.

PurpleDaisies · 13/12/2021 09:49

@Charlieiscool

Looking on the bright side; if you catch covid your needle phobia will go out the window.
Will it? Why?
onlychildhamster · 13/12/2021 09:50

@ToJabOrNotToJab my doctor friend told me that long covid can be a life worse than death in her opinion, the lethargy, the breathlessness. Don't mean to offend any long covid sufferers. Its not as simple as dying vs not dying. And it does happen to young healthy people. You are far more likely to get covid vaccinated.

I would urge you to get vaccinated rather than take any chances.

ollyollyoxenfree · 13/12/2021 09:50

@Honeyhorse

I know this will probably cause arguments, but I’m just wondering who else is still completely unvaccinated like myself. Mine is due to extreme anxiety and a needle phobia. I’m not anti vaccination and I don’t think it’s a conspiracy theory or microchip etc. I want to talk to my GP about how I’m feeling but I can’t get an appointment Sad Now everyone is getting boosters and I haven’t even had one, I feel embarrassed and ashamed, but I can’t do it, it’s like I need to be knocked unconscious before I’ll have it. I’ve even walked into the vaccination centre but ended up leaving after a few minutes as I had a panic attack.

I don’t know what to do.

If you want to be vaccinated and the only thing stopping you is needle phobia (rather the vaccine itself), I would second the idea of getting some diazapam prescribed and seeing if that helps.

Have you managed to have other things like bloods taken/injections before?

Please don't feel ashamed or embarassed though, a phobia is a phobia. I'm happy to be vaccinated to help reduce the need for people who can't be for whatever reason, and I think anyone rational would feel the same way!

onlychildhamster · 13/12/2021 09:51

@ToJabOrNotToJab *more likely to get long covid unvaccinated.

GreyPurbeckMarble · 13/12/2021 09:53

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ollyollyoxenfree · 13/12/2021 09:53

And yes any threads like this immediately turn into pits of vaccine misinformation, leading to complete derailment and scaring off OPs with genuine questions @MNHQ

Spaganetti · 13/12/2021 09:54

My DH, my DC, my DB and DSIS are jab free. I'm the odd one out having had the initial 2 jabs. I'm not having anymore and I don't think my DM will be either.

onlychildhamster · 13/12/2021 09:54

@blobby10 www.theguardian.com/society/2021/nov/30/life-tragic-death-john-eyers-fitness-fanatic-who-refused-covid-vaccine

I doubt you are fitter than this 42 year old man who participated in ironman marathons and went mountain climbing! He has sadly died of covid.

'In this assumption, John wasn’t entirely wrong. He was extremely unlikely to die from Covid, as a physically fit 42-year-old with no underlying conditions. The Covid mortality rate for all 40-year-olds is about one in every 1,490 people infected, while for 40-year-olds with no underlying health conditions it is about one in every 28,500 people infected, although these figures vary between scientific papers.

But his calculus when it came to understanding the risk-to-benefit ratio of Covid vaccination was off. If infected, someone who is unvaccinated is 32 times more likely to die of Covid than someone who has been vaccinated. While vaccination carries a risk of side-effects, this risk is far smaller than the risk of being unvaccinated during a pandemic. Out of 46.3 million fully vaccinated people in the UK, 77 have died of blood clots thought to be related to a Covid vaccine.

“There is a huge asymmetry with risk,” says Dr Tom Stafford, a psychology lecturer at the University of Sheffield. “If you can get away with things that are low probability, you don’t know how dangerous they are until it’s too late.” Stafford uses the example of driving without a seatbelt: most of the time, you will be absolutely fine. But the one time you are in an accident, things might get very bad very quickly.

John Eyers went through a bodybuilding phase, among other fitness obsessions
John went through a bodybuilding phase, among other fitness obsessions. Photograph: Courtesy of Jenny McCann
“It’s the same with the vaccine,” says Stafford. “It’s a low-probability event that you will get the virus and need hospitalisation. But if you do, then the vaccine shows its benefit.”

ollyollyoxenfree · 13/12/2021 09:55

@GreyPurbeckMarble

You keep posting this same link to a moronic question filled with anti-vaccine crap.

The poor FOI person has carefully responded addressing all concerns and explaining why it's bullshit, and yet you keep sharing as if it means something?

Why are MNHQ happy to let the same posters repeatedly NC and share this harmful nonsense?

JanisMoplin · 13/12/2021 09:56

@GreyPurbeckMarble I already mentioned that upthread.

Anyway got your gist: Scientists bad.
Random posters on MN good.
Boris very very bad.

tootiredtospeak · 13/12/2021 09:57

My 20yr old DS is exactly the same every week he builds himself up to have it and then everytime its tommorow or next week he had ASD and is so needlephobe. I am going to try the GP this week as he is now so fearful for his health too he already suffers with health anxiety generally. When people talk about the unvaccinated like they are lepers or idiots they dont always understand a very real struggle for some.

Faevern · 13/12/2021 09:58

@JanisMoplin I didn't lie. Stating that vaxxed people can infect others is not a lie.

And in context it was in response to your post where you asked if non vaccinated people, who felt that their life was shit, cared about passing it on.

Probably not, if their life is so shit that they feel like dying would be an acceptable option.

BubblingRiver · 13/12/2021 09:59

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JanisMoplin · 13/12/2021 10:01

[quote Faevern]@JanisMoplin I didn't lie. Stating that vaxxed people can infect others is not a lie.

And in context it was in response to your post where you asked if non vaccinated people, who felt that their life was shit, cared about passing it on.

Probably not, if their life is so shit that they feel like dying would be an acceptable option.[/quote]
Stating that vaxxed people can infect others without stating that their chances of doing so are far, far lower is disingenous and misleading at best. And it is repeated ad nauseum on MN.

Sorry, this is a matter of public health and a highly transmissible disease. It's not as simple as not getting the vax yourself because you have a miserable life. My life is pretty damn miserable at the moment.

GreyPurbeckMarble · 13/12/2021 10:01

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PAFMO · 13/12/2021 10:03

@JanisMoplin

MN really needs to step up the moderation. Don't get the vax. But god, the lies on here. It is anti-vax bingo

Experimental drug: No, it is not.
Boris is making us have it. No, he is not.
Getting vaxxed doesn't stop you from spreading it. No, but it reduces the chances hugely. ( Omicron data yet to come)
I eat lots of vegetables. So do the millions of Indians who died!

Two have been deleted already HQ are pretty good tbf at getting rid of misinformation and lies. Just keep reporting.
PurpleDaisies · 13/12/2021 10:03

@GreyPurbeckMarble

Haha! Your so simple, it’s hilarious 😂
You’re.

If you’re going to call someone else “simple”, be wary of looking silly yourself.

Beeinalily · 13/12/2021 10:04

Haven't and won't.