new self isolating rules

[essexgirl58]

Hi

I was with someone a couple of days ago who as now tested positive for covid. Under the new rules brought out earlier toay, I need to self isolate whilst I am waiting for my PCR results to come back, and even if the results are negative, I still must isolate for 10 days.

Does anyone know how to count the days? I presume you start counting the 10 days from the day you receive your results? Even if I have a negative result, I could get symptoms further down the line. However, the person I was with had the symptoms the very next day. I currently have no symptoms

There are many scientists who would agree with your points OP, however these are NOT the current rules for England. Could the child you know have suspected omicron?

I think OP has just got confused as there very much was new rules brought out earlier today re Scotland (although still wouldn't affect OP as is only for households). The omicron rule has been around pre today so not what she's referring to. I guess she heard the Scottish update and thought it applied to her. OP the example you've given in any a rule I guess it is common sense but that was most a long time ago by the government

Ah well on your update that's irrelevant to the rules. Rules come out of government. The rest is personal choice.

Just because your work with babies that has no bearing on Fred or Sarah down the road and what they do after a temp, covid infected child, etc.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection#samehousehold

Latest guidance for England, definitely no household isolation unless not double vaccinated or omicron.

The new rules are scotland, possible wales not sure on them. In England a pcr is recomended, no need to isolate until results, uless told otherwise by t+t if double jabbed plus 14 days. Isolation if not double jabbed or under 18.

The days are counted as day of last contact plus ten.

ok my PCR test came back negative However, I could still develop symptoms in a few days time so that negative result means nothing. I am not in the clear to mix with anyone yet

How long do you usually wait to see if you develop symptoms before you can honestly say you are not a risk

The thing is if/when they do bring in that rule in England again we will have an immediate pingdemic which will crush the economy. Nobody will go out to restaurant if there is a high chance they will have to isolate for 10 days.

Boris said the other day that the rule for omicron would become daily testing instead of isolation.

Not saying that will happen but that’s what he said

@essexgirl58

ok my PCR test came back negative However, I could still develop symptoms in a few days time so that negative result means nothing. I am not in the clear to mix with anyone yet

How long do you usually wait to see if you develop symptoms before you can honestly say you are not a risk

You can’t. But after about 5 you’re probably ok. I would do LFTs for the next few days

I am not in the clear to mix with anyone yet.

Just to be totally clear-this is your own choice. It is not the official rule in England.

@essexgirl58

ok my PCR test came back negative However, I could still develop symptoms in a few days time so that negative result means nothing. I am not in the clear to mix with anyone yet

How long do you usually wait to see if you develop symptoms before you can honestly say you are not a risk

I’m confused. In the OP you say the new rules in England say you need to isolate (they don’t), but then you gone on to imply that they’re just the rules you’ve made for yourself? In which case, you can decide what to count as day 0, surely?

When ds 13 was positive, the rest of us decided to do daily lfts for the whole ten days and pcrs on day 2 and day 6/7. We all went out and about as normal from the start as no one had symptoms.

The rules in Engand say you need to isolate whilst you are waiting for your pcr test results. Then when you get your results, obviusly if it is positive you isolate. If it is negative that negative means this

A negative result means it’s likely you are not infectious.
But a negative test is not a guarantee you do not have COVID-19 and there’s still a chance you may be infectious. You should follow advice on how to avoid catching and spreading the virus.

So thereore if as the above says, you coul still be infectious with a negative result so it is wise to still isolate but then in a few days time if you get no symptoms then you are guaranteed to be no danger to anyone and can mix again. My work colleagues son was negative and 5 days later got covid symptoms took another pcr test and was positive. Therefore that means that you should still isolate to see if in a few days time you get any symptoms. Common sense really. I would not want to go near anyone who had been exposed to someone who tested positive and they took a test and it was negative. I would want some guarantee that the negative result really was negatnve and you only truly fin that out by waiting a few more days after the negative result.

The rules in Engand say you need to isolate whilst you are waiting for your pcr test results.

If you have symptoms. Not as a contact if you’re double vaccinated/exempt from being vaccinated/under age.

Please stop posting misinformation.

But aren't the rules in England that you only need to self-isolate while waiting for PCR results if you have symptoms or are a close contact of someone with omicron? Unless you're not double-vaccinated in which case you isolate. It doesn't sound like you need to isolate at all according to the rules, so I guess just isolate as long as you want to.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection

Here are the guidelines for anyone who wants to read them and see that @essexgirl58 is making up her own version of the rules

I should have said the situation is different for omicron infection but that seems not to be relevant here. T and t would be in touch in that case.

@ColettesEarrings

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection#samehousehold

Latest guidance for England, definitely no household isolation unless not double vaccinated or omicron.

ok so why did I just see this online

a negative test is not a guarantee you do not have COVID-19 and there’s still a chance you may be infectious.

Because it's telling you that the test isn't 100% reliable HOWEVER you only need to isolate if you've definitely been in contact with a case of omicron or you're not double vaccinated.

This:

*ok so why did I just see this online

a negative test is not a guarantee you do not have COVID-19 and there’s still a chance you may be infectious.*

What has that got to do with the clear isolation rules for England?

I hate to tell you this @essexgirl58 but there are no absolute guarantees in this particular game. Even if you have 10 negatives in 10 days you could walk out the door and catch it on the 11th day. Just live your life and stop obsessing over it.

@TheRealMrsMorningstar

Why do you need to isolate if the result is negative?

Because we are essentially shifting to the basic 'unit of infection' being the household.

a negative test is not a guarantee you do not have COVID-19 and there’s still a chance you may be infectious

That is correct, but you still follow the rules which, in England and for non-omicron, mean you do not need to self isolate.

But of course the responsible thing to do in these circumstances is to limit non-essential contacts, wear a mask and don't get close to people indoors. Because yes of course you could be incubating

ok so why did I just see this online

a negative test is not a guarantee you do not have COVID-19 and there’s still a chance you may be infectious.

@essexgirl58 are you being deliberately obtuse or are you deliberately trying to mislead people?

Read the bloody guidelines.

In England, you do not have to isolate as a contact if you’re double jabbed/under age/exempt as long as it isn’t omicron.

Yes, it is sensible to take precautions and avoid vulnerable people etc. That is not the same as having to isolate at home.

Stop posting misinformation.

Is this thread still going? By the time OP has decided how many days to isolate for she won't need to bother. As PPs have said, choose when YOU personally would like to leave the house and stop spreading misinformation 🙄

@BarefootHippieChick

Is this thread still going? By the time OP has decided how many days to isolate for she won't need to bother. As PPs have said, choose when YOU personally would like to leave the house and stop spreading misinformation 🙄

I think it's still going because OP keeps coming up with new non reasons why it's now the rules