More stringent measures next week?

[AchillesLastStand]

From the Guardian just now:

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/10/stringent-uk-covid-measures-needed-within-a-week-leak-reveals

"my dad says - he’s in the system for a check up every three months, each time having a colonoscopy, a CT and a blood test. How many times will he be included within those figures? More than once I would suggest…"

Nope, that's not how those stats are calculated. Stop making up nonsense when you don't know what you are talking about, please!

Regardless of what ‘measures’ are bought in, myself and any sane person I know won’t be following them

[quote celan]@BitterTits I wouldn't be so sure. I have been trying to get one (in England) for weeks. The nearest I have found in all that time is 55 miles away, in a location which requires a car.[/quote]
Is this for a booster? Where do you like? Honestly around here you can log on and get an appointment tomorrow or about 100 different slots a day every day in about 10 locations within 5 miles. How can it be so variable?!

Live not like!

@GreyPurbeckMarble

Regardless of what ‘measures’ are bought in, myself and any sane person I know won’t be following them

Best of luck. Don't have an accident or something then, cos fairly soon you won't be getting into A&E, the way the doctors and nurses on my timeline are reporting things. We might not lose too many people to Covid, but we'll lose a lot to 'no room at the inn', if the predictions about the transmisibility of Omicron are anywhere near accurate... :-(

Not a problem, I have PMI 👍

Well that will be it "its allright for me I have private" and the rest of us screwed. Pretty much sums it up.

Ambulance waiting times twice as long as height of pandemic ...
Honestly it's not just our hospital. It's across the board

I hate to disappoint, and I know anecdata doesn't really count, but my neighbour's ambulance took just 7 minutes to arrive yesterday (east midlands city)

It's true that there was a long delay in dealing with her condition once at A&E, but that's because - in yet another failure - nobody could access some records

@Queenoftheashes

Have to say I went to a&e recently and got seen in ten minutes

And a 108 year old woman survived Covid and was asymptomatic! She was lucky, so were you - it's hardly typical.

@WoodenReindeer

Well that will be it "its allright for me I have private" and the rest of us screwed. Pretty much sums it up.

Hey yourself PMI, doesn’t have to cost a lot!

@Hotchox odds of that are vanishingly small for most healthy people to be honest. In my 31 years on the planet I've been into hospital twice, and once was to give birth. I'm happy to take the risk.

Depends what old Jowly Johnson needs to divert attention from, I guess 🤷🏼‍♀️

I am having surgery after Christmas and it's been delayed several times already so I am nervous. It's not the ' hang around and it will blow over Type'.

@GreyPurbeckMarble

Not a problem, I have PMI 👍

You won't be treated privately if you have a stroke or end up injured in a car crash though, it'd be straight to the nearest NHS A&E. Or not so straight as there's likely to be a long wait for an ambulance and then a long wait to get admitted to hospital...

Incorrect! I have a private a&e locally too! And I could instantly be referred to a private hospital regardless

Nordica that was it exactly. In our case a very broken leg and lying on the floor for several hours before ambulance came. Then waiting outside the hospital in ambulance queue (admittedly with pain relief now) and then in corridor queue. Finally admitted to a ward nearly 12 hours later. This was a daytime non busy period. It was truly frightening.

@WoodenReindeer

Ive had to take my mum into a and e recently. It is absolutely creaming at the seams. The man coordinating ambilances told me if they thought about winter and what was coming they wouldn't come to work. I wouldn't be surprised if soemthing needs to be brought in. But also doubt who would follow. People never see the wider picture.

@WoodenReindeer A friend of mine is a paramedic and in management at a large, London NHS trust. He says that it’s a hellscape with patients waiting 12hrs to be offloaded from ambulances and treatments having to take place in corridors. As well as the sheer, overwhelming amount of patients they’re also experiencing a lot of staff absence, both from Covid but also with stress and PTSD, with some areas of the trust being half down on the amount of paramedics they should have in week-on-week. So they’re at 200% patients and 50% staff. Not ideal.

The vote on Tuesday is for what is already proposed
Some MPs have been talking about not even voting for those ... So they’d need to be convinced to pass more

Precisely, Marsha - and as with so many previous votes, here right on cue is the latest horror story to convince them

Well as long as you're okay 🙄.

@WoodenReindeer

Its frightening. The hospitals are craking more now than during the worst of covid... but what to do??

Well they/we knew this in the summer, it has been widely reported and ignored.

So why were all restrictions removed?
Even without Omicron, the NHS was overwhelmed, as we are seeing now, the state of the NHS isn't because of this new virus.

Its all too late now, there is nothing any restrictions will do, short of a lockdown.

All the olds, conspiracists, ‘snowflakes’ haters and uneducated are all over local SM saying they won’t be following any more ‘hysterical’ guidelines and good old Boris for his parties last year, can’t wait for their own knees ups.

It doesn’t matter now. It really doesn’t.

@FestiveMelts

Genuine question - why does the R rate need to stay below 1 for a less deadly variant?

Is it confirmed then that it’s definitely a less deadly variant? I thought it was way too early to know yet? I was under the impression that the only thing that seems to be likely at the moment is that it appears that ONLY triple jabbed people have 75% chance of protection from serious disease.

DeclareThePennies - im not in london but sounds exactly the same situation. But noone is listening.

I have no idea what the answer is.

@4pmwinetimebebeh are you in London?

And yes to the fatigue and mental health issues amongst staff too.

There are too many like Grey that think they'll be fine so will crack on 😔