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Will Nicola get her way?

54 replies

doorornottodoor · 29/11/2021 21:44

On the 8 day quarantine for travel overseas?

www.scotsman.com/health/omicron-in-scotland-nicola-sturgeon-pushes-uk-government-to-increase-travel-restrictions-3474990

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Flapjacker48 · 29/11/2021 21:45

No - already rejected by the UK Government.

Sparklingbrook · 29/11/2021 21:46

I can't read the whole article because it doesn't like my ad blocker, but does Nicola have any influence at all over what Boris does?

doorornottodoor · 29/11/2021 21:58

@Sparklingbrook she probably likes to think she does. It’s all a political game for her. Independence being the prize.

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Sparklingbrook · 29/11/2021 22:11

Boris is probably a bit Hmm at any of her suggestions.

FreedomFaith · 29/11/2021 22:19

She should really think about her own country before criticising Boris. My constituency in Scotland is no longer giving out first and second vaccines at all. You have to register if unvaccinated and wait, and if you are waiting on your second, you are screwed. Only boosters and flu being done.

How she can criticise when her country is a shit show is incredible.

containsnuts · 30/11/2021 04:44

Unpopular move but if the variant is as concerning as they claim then it makes sense. We all know people can incubate covid beyond the second day - one of the omicron cases in SA tested positive day 11. Half measures don't work as we know. However, the variant is already spreading here and with clubs, schools, and Christmas festivals in full swing I see little sense in doing it now - but I get her point.

GreenLakes · 30/11/2021 08:16

Sturgeon is lucky in that she is entirely subsided by England and the state of the Scottish economy doesn’t matter to her.

What she’s proposing would decimate the travel industry. BJ has to take a balanced approach to all this while Sturgeon can shriek from the sidelines without the responsibilities.

FreedomFaith · 30/11/2021 09:08

@GreenLakes

Sturgeon is lucky in that she is entirely subsided by England and the state of the Scottish economy doesn’t matter to her.

What she’s proposing would decimate the travel industry. BJ has to take a balanced approach to all this while Sturgeon can shriek from the sidelines without the responsibilities.

It keeps her sheep baaing along with her though. As long as its against England, she is right to them. I always wonder how far she would have to go before they finally realise she's an idiot.
nonowaynever · 30/11/2021 09:22

The utter hypocrisy of Sturgeon after allowing COP26 to go ahead, allowing tens of thousands of people to flood into Scotland with relaxed travel rules in the middle of a pandemic at the start of flu season. No surprise that Omicron is already well established and spreading in Scotland. The fact that the first four cases in Botswana were amongst diplomats is significant.

She had the audacity to spout off about the people of Scotland having a 'civic duty' to help control Covid when the Scottish government completely abandoned their civic duty to the people of Scotland because of the jingoistic wish for a 'Glasgow Agreement' with the status and respect the Paris Agreement agreement had.

My very careful, fully vaccinated husband caught Covid due to having to go to work in Glasgow on public transport crammed with COP26 people, and passed it to fully vaccinated me, so yeah, I'm seething.

TheLovleyChebbyMcGee · 30/11/2021 09:28

Sturgeon is lucky in that she is entirely subsided by England and the state of the Scottish economy doesn’t matter to her

Pretty sure we do pay taxes in Scotland too you know!!

nonowaynever · 30/11/2021 09:32

@FreedomFaith

She should really think about her own country before criticising Boris. My constituency in Scotland is no longer giving out first and second vaccines at all. You have to register if unvaccinated and wait, and if you are waiting on your second, you are screwed. Only boosters and flu being done.

How she can criticise when her country is a shit show is incredible.

I get a free flu jab because of a heart condition and still haven't had it because they've made such a shambles of rolling it out centrally instead of through GPs as it's always been. Got a really bad tempered letter from my practice saying they'd been asked to do them after all and the mess and confusion wasn't their fault. Of course, my appointment was for two days later, which I couldn't attend because I was still isolating with COP26-caused Covid. Last year I had the jab in September; this year I still won't have it in December. Awesome work, Sturgeon and Yousaf!
AwaAnBileYerHeid · 30/11/2021 10:03

@FreedomFaith

She should really think about her own country before criticising Boris. My constituency in Scotland is no longer giving out first and second vaccines at all. You have to register if unvaccinated and wait, and if you are waiting on your second, you are screwed. Only boosters and flu being done.

How she can criticise when her country is a shit show is incredible.

Your constituency? Vaccinations go by health board, not constituency. So if you or anyone you know would like a 1st or 2nd, there will be clinics in your health board which offer them, you'll just have to check. Try having a look on NHS inform.
AwaAnBileYerHeid · 30/11/2021 10:05

@nonowaynever can't you go to a community pharmacy for your flu jag?

depremesnil · 30/11/2021 10:06

@GreenLakes

Sturgeon is lucky in that she is entirely subsided by England and the state of the Scottish economy doesn’t matter to her.

What she’s proposing would decimate the travel industry. BJ has to take a balanced approach to all this while Sturgeon can shriek from the sidelines without the responsibilities.

You know Scottish people pay taxes too.
AwaAnBileYerHeid · 30/11/2021 10:08

@GreenLakes

Sturgeon is lucky in that she is entirely subsided by England and the state of the Scottish economy doesn’t matter to her.

What she’s proposing would decimate the travel industry. BJ has to take a balanced approach to all this while Sturgeon can shriek from the sidelines without the responsibilities.

Hmm, the last time I checked, I also pay taxes in Scotland. Otherwise, my employer is ripping me off by taking X amount off me every month under the heading 'income tax' and 'national insurance' on my payslip.
GreenLakes · 30/11/2021 10:23

@AwaAnBileYerHeid

But the figures are very clear that Scotland has a significant budget deficit, and so is subsidised by the U.K. government.

There is no way it would have been able to afford schemes like furlough without U.K. support.

The Scottish economy is irrelevant to Sturgeon because she is not relying on it to pay doctors and nurses.

Johnson has to consider a whole range of issues rather than shrieking ‘keep people safe’ at every opportunity.

depremesnil · 30/11/2021 10:28

[quote GreenLakes]@AwaAnBileYerHeid

But the figures are very clear that Scotland has a significant budget deficit, and so is subsidised by the U.K. government.

There is no way it would have been able to afford schemes like furlough without U.K. support.

The Scottish economy is irrelevant to Sturgeon because she is not relying on it to pay doctors and nurses.

Johnson has to consider a whole range of issues rather than shrieking ‘keep people safe’ at every opportunity.[/quote]
You said it's entirely subsidised, that's a bit different.

sashagabadon · 30/11/2021 10:31

She could make Scots quarantine once they arrive home in Scotland. She could set up Scottish hotels for this purpose if she wanted to. She doesn’t really want to though but wants English hotels to do it Hmm
But I think really it’s just a distraction to independence falling in the Scottish polls.

ChocolateDeficitDisorder · 30/11/2021 10:32

The utter hypocrisy of Sturgeon after allowing COP26 to go ahead

It wasn't her decision, it was a UK/UN event. Scotland had no choice in it.

But the figures are very clear that Scotland has a significant budget deficit, and so is subsidised by the U.K. government.

The figures are meaningless and reflect that we're apportioned UK debt for spending that isn't spent in Scotland. They certainly don't reflect what would happen in an independent Scotland.

There is no way it would have been able to afford schemes like furlough without U.K. support.

Scotland would have borrowed the money, in exactly the same way the UK govt did for furlough money.

Have you ever stopped to consider that there are reasons why the UK govt doesn't want Scotland to go? Maybe they're not telling you the truth?

ChocolateDeficitDisorder · 30/11/2021 10:33

But I think really it’s just a distraction to independence falling in the Scottish polls

It isn't. Try reading more.

sashagabadon · 30/11/2021 10:40

I agree Scotland had no choice but to allow COP to go ahead. It’s an international conference years in the planning.
There’s no way Scotland would be able to borrow at the same rates as the U.K. can. They could borrow money but hugely more expensive to do so. Just a numbers game.
Just Heard Ian Blackford on Times radio calling for Boris to pay back some of his salary, if that isn’t a classic dead cat tactic to distract from recent polling I’ll eat my hat Grin

ClaudiaWankleman · 30/11/2021 10:41

@ChocolateDeficitDisorder
It's fallen significantly (and, in my opinion, surprisingly) since the Brexit transition period ended.

Keepitonthedownlow · 30/11/2021 10:42

@GreenLakes

Sturgeon is lucky in that she is entirely subsided by England and the state of the Scottish economy doesn’t matter to her.

What she’s proposing would decimate the travel industry. BJ has to take a balanced approach to all this while Sturgeon can shriek from the sidelines without the responsibilities.

What a nasty and ill informed load of tripe
Keepitonthedownlow · 30/11/2021 10:43

@ChocolateDeficitDisorder

The utter hypocrisy of Sturgeon after allowing COP26 to go ahead

It wasn't her decision, it was a UK/UN event. Scotland had no choice in it.

But the figures are very clear that Scotland has a significant budget deficit, and so is subsidised by the U.K. government.

The figures are meaningless and reflect that we're apportioned UK debt for spending that isn't spent in Scotland. They certainly don't reflect what would happen in an independent Scotland.

There is no way it would have been able to afford schemes like furlough without U.K. support.

Scotland would have borrowed the money, in exactly the same way the UK govt did for furlough money.

Have you ever stopped to consider that there are reasons why the UK govt doesn't want Scotland to go? Maybe they're not telling you the truth?

Exactly if Scotland was such a drain why is England desperate to keep it's grip on us.
MLMshouldbeillegal · 30/11/2021 10:44

You do realise she makes these suggestions KNOWING that they are going to be knocked back for whatever reason, don't you?

Because then she can bleat on to her faithful supporters about how she is shackled by Westminster, and in an independent Scotland blah blah blah.

It's SO not about Covid.