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Will Nicola get her way?

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doorornottodoor · 29/11/2021 21:44

On the 8 day quarantine for travel overseas?

www.scotsman.com/health/omicron-in-scotland-nicola-sturgeon-pushes-uk-government-to-increase-travel-restrictions-3474990

OP posts:
ssd · 30/11/2021 10:45

@nonowaynever, i got a flu jag in boots £15 beginning of Oct. If i had a health condition which meant i needed to get a flu jag, i would have paid the money and got it well before now, instead of waiting for a government you clearly hate to organise it for you for free.

Personal responsibility and all that.

nonowaynever · 30/11/2021 11:01

[quote ssd]@nonowaynever, i got a flu jag in boots £15 beginning of Oct. If i had a health condition which meant i needed to get a flu jag, i would have paid the money and got it well before now, instead of waiting for a government you clearly hate to organise it for you for free.

Personal responsibility and all that.[/quote]
Congratulations on missing the point quite so spectacularly.

bustersword · 30/11/2021 11:04

Mark Drakeford also asked for the rules to be changed but I don't see the same vitriol or anti-Welsh sentiment directed at him.

GoGoGretaDoll · 30/11/2021 11:09

@nonowaynever

The utter hypocrisy of Sturgeon after allowing COP26 to go ahead, allowing tens of thousands of people to flood into Scotland with relaxed travel rules in the middle of a pandemic at the start of flu season. No surprise that Omicron is already well established and spreading in Scotland. The fact that the first four cases in Botswana were amongst diplomats is significant.

She had the audacity to spout off about the people of Scotland having a 'civic duty' to help control Covid when the Scottish government completely abandoned their civic duty to the people of Scotland because of the jingoistic wish for a 'Glasgow Agreement' with the status and respect the Paris Agreement agreement had.

My very careful, fully vaccinated husband caught Covid due to having to go to work in Glasgow on public transport crammed with COP26 people, and passed it to fully vaccinated me, so yeah, I'm seething.

I usually clear steer of Sturgeon threads on here because it tend to get a bit bashy very quickly - but this times a million percent. How fecking dare she wang on about closing the borders when the whole fucking world came to Glasgow a couple of weeks ago? It's only by sheer luck in terms of timing that hundreds of delegates didn't bring the new variant with them. The hypocrisy on this is off the scale.
AntiMaskersAreTwats · 30/11/2021 11:24

As a English person I wish we could vote on an independent Scotland. I’d happily tick the yes box just to get rid of all the whingers. Let them see how easy independence would be Confused

AwaAnBileYerHeid · 30/11/2021 11:26

[quote GreenLakes]@AwaAnBileYerHeid

But the figures are very clear that Scotland has a significant budget deficit, and so is subsidised by the U.K. government.

There is no way it would have been able to afford schemes like furlough without U.K. support.

The Scottish economy is irrelevant to Sturgeon because she is not relying on it to pay doctors and nurses.

Johnson has to consider a whole range of issues rather than shrieking ‘keep people safe’ at every opportunity.[/quote]
Please provide the evidence to back up your original assertion that Scotland is "entirely subsidised by England". Thanks in advance.

FreedomFaith · 30/11/2021 11:28

Your constituency? Vaccinations go by health board, not constituency. So if you or anyone you know would like a 1st or 2nd, there will be clinics in your health board which offer them, you'll just have to check. Try having a look on NHS inform.

There isn't, that's my point. They have clinics for boosters and flu only. Nothing for vaccines. I've complained to my mp and msp though. The mp's PA is looking into it for me. The msp hasn't bothered replying.

ssd · 30/11/2021 11:29

I missed the point ? @nonowaynever

SureGrin

ssd · 30/11/2021 11:31

@AntiMaskersAreTwats

As a English person I wish we could vote on an independent Scotland. I’d happily tick the yes box just to get rid of all the whingers. Let them see how easy independence would be Confused
Ach, but we'd really miss you
Mojoj · 30/11/2021 11:31

@GreenLakes FFS not that old chestnut again. Are you listening - England does not subsidise Scotland!!!!!

ssd · 30/11/2021 11:33

[quote Mojoj]@GreenLakes FFS not that old chestnut again. Are you listening - England does not subsidise Scotland!!!!![/quote]
I wouldn't bother explaining, you are wasting your breath. Let posters like that have years and years of right wing tory governments whilst we try to achieve independence.

Ohsofedupwiththis · 30/11/2021 11:34

@GreenLakes

Sturgeon is lucky in that she is entirely subsided by England and the state of the Scottish economy doesn’t matter to her.

What she’s proposing would decimate the travel industry. BJ has to take a balanced approach to all this while Sturgeon can shriek from the sidelines without the responsibilities.

ODFOD.

The crap that some people come away with is unreal.

PicsInRed · 30/11/2021 11:38

If she wanted it, she'd already have imposed it for Scotland.

She doesn't want it and clearly, for the same reason, neither does Wales.

Pootle40 · 30/11/2021 11:42

@AntiMaskersAreTwats

As a English person I wish we could vote on an independent Scotland. I’d happily tick the yes box just to get rid of all the whingers. Let them see how easy independence would be Confused
Sweeping statement....are you so stupid to think that everyone in Scotland has one singular view? Ignorant.
depremesnil · 30/11/2021 11:43

@AntiMaskersAreTwats

As a English person I wish we could vote on an independent Scotland. I’d happily tick the yes box just to get rid of all the whingers. Let them see how easy independence would be Confused
And you wonder why people want to leave the union with twats like you...
LittleoldTERFy · 30/11/2021 11:43

The Uk government have given Scotland shit loads of money during covid, way more than she herself put aside for her own people. She needs to quit it because if she had managed to pull Scotland out of the UK they would absolutely fucked now. She comes across as if she is trail blazing but in reality she has royal fucked the economy up.

I think a lot of Scottish people are starting to realise that.

FreedomFaith · 30/11/2021 11:46

@LittleoldTERFy

The Uk government have given Scotland shit loads of money during covid, way more than she herself put aside for her own people. She needs to quit it because if she had managed to pull Scotland out of the UK they would absolutely fucked now. She comes across as if she is trail blazing but in reality she has royal fucked the economy up.

I think a lot of Scottish people are starting to realise that.

Yes again my own council has been found to have 'lost' almost half a million pounds, and yet nothing has happened to them. Didn't the Scottish government themselves 'lose' a lot of money?

I'd be accepting of independence if the snp could show they are competent. But I've seen no evidence that they are. I can't willing give more power to idiots.

AwaAnBileYerHeid · 30/11/2021 11:55

@FreedomFaith

Your constituency? Vaccinations go by health board, not constituency. So if you or anyone you know would like a 1st or 2nd, there will be clinics in your health board which offer them, you'll just have to check. Try having a look on NHS inform.

There isn't, that's my point. They have clinics for boosters and flu only. Nothing for vaccines. I've complained to my mp and msp though. The mp's PA is looking into it for me. The msp hasn't bothered replying.

Which health board isn't offering 1st or 2nd vaccines? I work in public health, if you want to say which health board you are under, I can have a look for you if you like. Have you tried adjacent health boards? I know it would be a big imposition however if you or someone you know is desperate for their 1st/2nd vaccine, it may be worth a try.
FreedomFaith · 30/11/2021 12:03

Which health board isn't offering 1st or 2nd vaccines? I work in public health, if you want to say which health board you are under, I can have a look for you if you like. Have you tried adjacent health boards? I know it would be a big imposition however if you or someone you know is desperate for their 1st/2nd vaccine, it may be worth a try.

I have tried, trust me. I have phoned my gp, I have phoned NHS, I have now contacted my mp and msp. The mps assistant is looking into getting clinics done again as they have stopped.

I think we are going to have to try a different one to be honest as ours is useless, but it's difficult when we both work and by the time we arrive at a different one, it will be closed. I mean I know we can take time off to get it done, but having to be gone for maybe 2-3 hours because ours is useless, I'm not sure our jobs would be happy about that. And it's sadly both of us that have to go, I drive and he doesn't and its my partner that needs it done. Public transport is pathetic/non existent too, 2-3 hours could turn into 8-9 easily.

It's just pretty bad organisation to be honest, but it's what I've come to expect.

OnceuponaRainbow18 · 30/11/2021 12:04

Hopefully. I think 8 days for all those choosing to travel at this time is reasonable,

ssd · 30/11/2021 12:09

@FreedomFaith

Which health board isn't offering 1st or 2nd vaccines? I work in public health, if you want to say which health board you are under, I can have a look for you if you like. Have you tried adjacent health boards? I know it would be a big imposition however if you or someone you know is desperate for their 1st/2nd vaccine, it may be worth a try.

I have tried, trust me. I have phoned my gp, I have phoned NHS, I have now contacted my mp and msp. The mps assistant is looking into getting clinics done again as they have stopped.

I think we are going to have to try a different one to be honest as ours is useless, but it's difficult when we both work and by the time we arrive at a different one, it will be closed. I mean I know we can take time off to get it done, but having to be gone for maybe 2-3 hours because ours is useless, I'm not sure our jobs would be happy about that. And it's sadly both of us that have to go, I drive and he doesn't and its my partner that needs it done. Public transport is pathetic/non existent too, 2-3 hours could turn into 8-9 easily.

It's just pretty bad organisation to be honest, but it's what I've come to expect.

Seems a bit churlish @FreedomFaith

Another poster has offered you help, you turned it down.
You don't want to be too inconvenienced to go get the vaccine, that presumably you were offered months ago, so its rye government's fault, not yours??

PolaDeVeboise · 30/11/2021 12:18

For those wondering why they want to keep us ... since devolution in 1999, Scotland has sent 937bn to the UK treasury, but received only £511bn back to spend on its own affairs..

Will Nicola get her way?
FreedomFaith · 30/11/2021 12:30

@ssd

In fairness why would I give my location to a stranger? She says she works for the public health board, but she could be anyone. I'd rather just deal with it through sources I know rather than a random person on the Internet. She may well be able to find out for me, and if she does indeed work for who she says, she could find out without asking me to be fair.

Keepitonthedownlow · 30/11/2021 12:36

@PolaDeVeboise

For those wondering why they want to keep us ... since devolution in 1999, Scotland has sent 937bn to the UK treasury, but received only £511bn back to spend on its own affairs..
This
GreenLakes · 30/11/2021 13:04

@PolaDeVeboise

You do realise that benefits, pensions etc in Scotland are also all funded by the UK government on top of that figure ? 😂

Scotland has a massive budget deficit when all that is included?