Not vaccinated but need to show Covid pass...

[wineislife21]

Basically I need to show a covid pass to get into the venue of my works Xmas do.

I haven't been vaccinated but have seen I can get a negative PCR and still have a 'Covid pass' as such.

My question is does the Covid pass on the app appear as a PR code scrambled picture thingy whether it's a double jabbed pass or a negative PCR result?

Hope that makes sense.

@Serendipity79

Im vaccinated and when i open the app it offers me the option of getting my Covid pass. When i select domestic, (the other option is travel) It brings up a QR code my name, DOB and has a date of expiry on it which looks to be 6 months since second vaccination. Its an actual "pass" by the look of it.

I've had to take LFT's twice a week for ages and when you register it that simply sends you an email which give you a result. You perhaps need to ask the venue if its definitely a Covid pass you need as opposed to a negative test result?

Im vaccinated and when i open the app it offers me the option of getting my Covid pass. When i select domestic, (the other option is travel) It brings up a QR code my name, DOB and has a date of expiry on it which looks to be 6 months since second vaccination

That's weird. Mine shows only one month from today's date.

Well the fact is that if the OP is unvaxxed and wants to go then the biggest threat is to herself. She must surely be aware of the risks she is taking if she contracts covid, that she is more likely to end up in a very bad way, and is choosing to take that risk, just as thousands did last summer when the pubs reopened. She is no more likely to pass on covid than I am, vaxxed people can carry and transmit it and are arguably more likely to do that as they are more likely to be asymptomatic and therefore would not know that they have it.

@wannabeamummysobad

I know someone who just dropped the liquid onto the test strip and got a negative response. Took a picture and reported it as negative on the app

@OnTheBoardwalk I call bullshite on this. If you just poured the liquid into the specimen well or didn't swab far enough to get an accurate sample your test would show no line and come back inconclusive.

I agree people can lie that they've tested, or lie about the results but you can't "trick" the actual test.

You can. I did that very thing tonight just out of curiosity after doing a LFD on my son. I wanted to know if it it would show an inconclusive result as I have been wondering how reliable the tests are. I used tap water and it showed a negative result.

LFTs aren’t very sensitive. DD had covid and tested negative with them for 4 days. You’re putting people at risk if you do this. You shouldn’t go to the do.

Probably be better checking with the venue. A lot of places theatre,stadiums etc are asking for proof of vaccine or proof of a negative lateral flow but guess depends.

Love how people come on here stating incorrect information as absolute fact.

You register your lateral flow result through your nhs account and then it will update your Covid pass account. Your Covid pass will be valid for 48 hours.

A Covid pass is a Covid pass (and there are several ways to get one for all those who think only the double vaxxed are allowed out), it doesn't say why you're eligible for the pass or anything. The only difference would be that your expiry date will be shorter.

@wannabeamummysobad

I know someone who just dropped the liquid onto the test strip and got a negative response. Took a picture and reported it as negative on the app

@OnTheBoardwalk I call bullshite on this. If you just poured the liquid into the specimen well or didn't swab far enough to get an accurate sample your test would show no line and come back inconclusive.

I agree people can lie that they've tested, or lie about the results but you can't "trick" the actual test.

I did the test myself to prove what you said is incorrect. Straight onto the strip and negative result 30 mins later

I know testing is fantastic for picking up cases and I will continue to do so but I personally think vaccines are the way to go

Negative test with no swab

Gosh people still on and on about only unvaccinated people spreading the virus.

Well, that is because they are more likely to spread the virus than the vaccinated.

Whats your logic on that @milkyaqua

As I said above an unvaccinated person is likely to have more and worse symptoms, therefore more likely to test and therefore more likely to know that they have it. A) they are likely to be too ill to go out spreading it and B) if they are following the rules will self isolate.

A vaccinated person is much more likely to be asymptomatic and therefore be cheerfully out and about spreading the virus, through no fault of their own.

The issue is that as an unvaccinated person the OP could be spending the evening with a person (or more than one) shedding the virus with every breath and the OP ends up seriously ill. It is her choice, but the risk is mainly hers I would say.

So now we have people actually pissed off that the unvaccinated can get a covid pass and have the same rights to go places as they do once they test negative? How very dare they? Down with this sort of thing! Lol

It's not my logic, it's what I've read has been found to be so.

Here's an example:

theconversation.com/no-vaccinated-people-are-not-just-as-infectious-as-unvaccinated-people-if-they-get-covid-171302

I didnt say that they were as infectious but that they are less likely to know if they are carrying the virus and therefore not isolate and be in places where they are a risk to the OP.

I am double vaxxed, will take my booster and am happy with that, but I cannot understand the fear that some have of unvaccinated people. Their choice, their risk, their funeral.

@fournonblondes

Gosh people still on and on about only unvaccinated people spreading the virus.

Where?

Show me the "people" here who have said only unvaccinated people spread covid.

I think I'd check the requirements with the venue.

And I'm as pro vax as they come but think everyone attending an event like this should test whether they're vaccinated or not.

@CoastalWave

Would much rather mingle with a non vaccinated person who has just tested negative than a vaccinated person who has no bloody clue whether they're infectious or not.

Why on earth this assumption that vaccinated people don't test?

@GeorgieTheGorgeousGoat

Is that because you want to trick your colleagues in to thinking you've had the vaccine?

It certainly does sound like that but I hope not.

[quote DumplingsAndStew]@CoastalWave

Would much rather mingle with a non vaccinated person who has just tested negative than a vaccinated person who has no bloody clue whether they're infectious or not.

Why on earth this assumption that vaccinated people don't test?[/quote]
Because ime more dont than do. There is no incentive to is there? Unless its a work place requirement then I would guess that most people dont do regular tests unless showing symptoms. Its down to good old fashioned self interest, " The test is unpleasant and I dont want to do it. I am double jabbed, even if I get it I'll be ok. You didnt get the vaccine its your problem if I am carrying it"

The only people I know who test regularly would lose their job if they didnt.

@Bigballer

In England Covid passports are not a legal requirement. You could claim discrimination if you are excluded from the work party.

No she couldnt.

Every single hospitality venue is legally allowed to refuse service to any person at their discretion. Its how they can bar people on the basis of them being an utter wanker, quite handy really.

Now if a person where refused service on the grounds of a protected characteristic then yes that would be discrimination and worthy of a kick off....I recall a case where a gay couple were refused a prebooked room at a hotel run by a "Christian" couple some years back. However as Covid status is not a PC then a venue can decide to not admit people who do not have the passport. A lot of places have chosen to do this to protect their staff, their customers and their reputation....no pub wants to be known as the epicentre of an outbreak.

@Bigballer

In England Covid passports are not a legal requirement. You could claim discrimination if you are excluded from the work party.

On what grounds? Vaccination status is not a protected characteristic.

*Why on earth would I lie about this after being told from someone who I know rather than a random on MN telling me it’s bullshit?

Have you tried it yourself? I trust the idiot who told my this rather than a random*

Either you or your friend is lying. Give it a try first hand then return to the thread. @OnTheBoardwalk .. from one random on MN to another .

wannabeamummysobad I did try it and posted a picture (twice cos I’m also a bit of an idiot) at 22.55 showing a negative result from me dropping the liquid straight onto the test