New Covid variant *title edited by MNHQ at OP's request*

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Can anyone talk some sense about how dangerous this is or is it just the media over exaggerating?

I think people genuinely don’t care anymore. Even the 70 year olds. I think most people don’t want to restrict their lives after so long and heat will be will be.

What will be.

At the very least the fucker should tell people to wear masks. And no ridiculous fabric ones either.

Targeted testing and masks ok fine

But the thought of re buying a whole load… I’m fine with fabric

what will be will be

So in other words "who will die will die".

I think people want to live their lives after 2 years of restrictions @JesusIsAnyNameFree and I don’t blame them.

Are we upset about the hundreds that die every day from cancer and other diseases? Or is it just Coronavirus where we must prevent every death with harmful restrictions?

Are we upset about the hundreds that die every day from cancer and other diseases? Or is it just Coronavirus where we must prevent every death with harmful restrictions?

Of course we are upset. Some people can’t see that unless we manage the number of covid cases, we can’t prevent so many cancer (etc) deaths because the hospitals are overwhelmed with covid patients. How many operations got cancelled or treatments got delayed because of covid?

The answer is not more restrictions. We have vaccines now. The answer is a long term plan to improve healthcare in this country.

Anyway, I’m detaining the thread.

I think this is all the government will do for now. Travel ban. Surge testing. Get your booster. And that’s correct I think.

Detaining the thread 😂. Derailing..

@MarshaBradyo

At the very least the fucker should tell people to wear masks. And no ridiculous fabric ones either.

Targeted testing and masks ok fine

But the thought of re buying a whole load… I’m fine with fabric

That's a point.

How old some of these fabric masks must be now

@Delatron

The answer is not more restrictions. We have vaccines now. The answer is a long term plan to improve healthcare in this country.

Anyway, I’m detaining the thread.

I think this is all the government will do for now. Travel ban. Surge testing. Get your booster. And that’s correct I think.

There is potentially a situation where the answer is some increase in restrictions, unfortunately, but we just have to hope we don't get there.

I guess we are just going to have to watch and wait. It might be wise to introduce minor mitigations rather than leave it to chance.

@Delatron

I think people genuinely don’t care anymore. Even the 70 year olds. I think most people don’t want to restrict their lives after so long and heat will be will be.

I think this is very much not true.

As ever there is a roughly 50/50 split, but plenty of people do still care about their health. If they felt they were at risk, they would want to be cautious.

It is not that they didn't care - it is that their view of how much at risk they were was significantly changed by the vaccines (correctly!).

If their risk profile changed again, their view of what they wanted to do would change again.

twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1464622927333232640?s=21

Some good news from SA, it seems symptoms are very mild.

The answer is not more restrictions

Says who? You? What makes you able to say that with such certainty?

We don't know yet what will need to happen in order to save lives and protect the NHS, but if that includes some restrictions then so be it.

And please don't use cancer deaths as an argument against restrictions. If covid number are that high, they simply cannot treat people with a slow burning but deadly illness. They have to treat the person quite literally choking to death in front of them first.

How old some of these fabric masks must be now

Are you concerned they don’t work anymore?

@MarshaBradyo you can always buy new ones you know?

[quote julieca]@MarshaBradyo you can always buy new ones you know?[/quote]
I don’t want to that was my point if you follow back the conversaction

Happy with what I have

Was wondering why pp was worried. I’m not.

@MarshaBradyo in fairness I dont think you have ever been worried about coronavirus

[quote julieca]@MarshaBradyo in fairness I dont think you have ever been worried about coronavirus[/quote]
Wow it’s like you can see into my mind

How perceptive you are.

I was quite worried at the start as have a dc with asthma and was blue lighted in emergency with breathing problems in past. So yes I’ve felt that anxiety.

Since then risk has changed hasn’t it?

The situation has changed over 18 months and thoughts on it have to

But your comment is really snarky, overblown and ridiculous no idea why me not buying new masks would have that effect.

Take a step back if you think you know that much about anyone.

Boris presser at 5pm

@JesusIsAnyNameFree

The answer is not more restrictions

Says who? You? What makes you able to say that with such certainty?

We don't know yet what will need to happen in order to save lives and protect the NHS, but if that includes some restrictions then so be it.

And please don't use cancer deaths as an argument against restrictions. If covid number are that high, they simply cannot treat people with a slow burning but deadly illness. They have to treat the person quite literally choking to death in front of them first.

At that point it would be the person most likely to survive. You are going to put a 90 year old with covid on the palliative pathway not the 30 year old with curable cancer.

What needs to happen is all routine work stood down, vulnerable HOUSEHOLDS to shield until we know more and work in a tweaked vaccine to be fast tracked through MHRA.

Restriction aren't the answer I don't consent to my son paying the bill for more restrictions to save very few lives in the grand scheme of things. We need to be realistic the only truth Boris have ever said is when he was honest that people are going to lose loved ones.

When young COVID deaths are still headline news you know this isn't the pandemic that is going to end the human race. No one wants to say it but we need to remember Darwin - survival of the fittest you can't change biology

@JanglyBeads

twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1464622927333232640?s=21

Some good news from SA, it seems symptoms are very mild.

So maybe there's hope??

If this is more transmissible than delta, but milder, and becomes the dominant strain worldwide the situation could possibly be better?

That would be a real win-win, wouldn't it.

Let’s be positive. There was a lot of talk of these viruses becoming more mild as they mutate as they want to keep their hosts alive. We will find out more in three weeks. If the cases of this variant go up but the deaths stay stable or go down it could even be a good thing.

@vickyc90 Wow. I’m 7 months pregnant and so clinically vulnerable to any escape variants. Nice to see your distain for the life of me and my baby. MumsNet is such a lovely place… We live in a supportive society - if it was all survival of the fittest we wouldn’t treat any diseases now would we? So the next time you have an infection are you really saying that you’d lay off the antibiotics and let it become life threatening?

[quote MumOfScience]@vickyc90 Wow. I’m 7 months pregnant and so clinically vulnerable to any escape variants. Nice to see your distain for the life of me and my baby. MumsNet is such a lovely place… We live in a supportive society - if it was all survival of the fittest we wouldn’t treat any diseases now would we? So the next time you have an infection are you really saying that you’d lay off the antibiotics and let it become life threatening?[/quote]
Considering the previous advice was for pregnant woman to shield >28 weeks gestation. My point still stand you should be shielding along with the rest of your household.

It would also be wise for people to stop planning pregnancies if they can't shield for last few months even if it means a shorter mat leave.

I would rather have no economic costs and a lower birth rate for a few years than the current situation of our kids being expected to pick up the tab so you don't have to shield yourself.

Should have also been vaccine passports over face masks. Could even tweak the vaccine passports so those listed as CEV can't get one. The fact he hasn't applied the rules to hospitality shows the new restrictions are aimed at protecting the vulnerable not slowing cases