So feb up tempted to pull out of school!

[Tinydancer321]

I have 4 Kids, 2 older (1 primary 1 secondary) as a den school. Have not caught any bugs from school and school taking Covid seriously.
I also have another primary child in mainstream and and a 2 week old baby.
Primary child daughter is in year 1, every 2 weeks has daughter another bug, currently on bug number 4! The school are not taking Covid seriously at all, kids are going in with coughs and temps and the school are saying nothing even had a harvest festival in a hall full of parents coughing too. Most parents at the schools very un bothered about
Covid.
My daughter again is very poorly high temp, sore throat.
My 2 week old actually ended up with bronchiolitis and we are just getting over it (caught from my primary daughter) who needed hospital now we have another bug in the house.
I’m now poorly too.
I’m so tempted to pull her from school there must be more to life than catching illness after illness.
In 6 weeks she has caught 4 bugs, and had 3 pcrs (the other parents don’t bother testing).
Clearly Covid will rip through the school, already lots of parents have sent their kids when they have had Covid and not tested the kids as it only says “should”. Most
Parents at the schools have good jobs and won’t take time off so send their kids in poorly. The school only care about their attendance records. I feel so torn. I hate keep seeing her so poorly! She has had no let up. Now half term and we will be doing nothing fun as we are poorly
Again.

@Katya213 it’s awful isn’t it! My daughter has been like this since having her tonsils removed! She never got so poorly (they were removed as had sleep apnoa and totally massive). Luckily I’m on maternity leave 😂🤦🏼‍♀️

@JuneOsborne thank you. I honestly needed your comment your totally right and said it in a nice way 😂. I have grabbed a couple of hours sleep so I’m being slightly more rational. I want to have some fun days out. Instead we will be getting pcrs and waiting for results 😂, hopefully doctors will see her without results. I know it’s not Covid well I’m pretty sure we all have negative lft.

[quote ScottishTinydancer321]@SpringRainbow she hasn’t suddenly started though! She went full time nursery since 2! None of my others have been like this. My eldest had asthma but we have honestly never had anything like this. She literally isn’t getting well ebefore she catches something else. I’m not talking about a snotty nose literally she just spends days laying on the sofa crying. Luckily she was sick when they had the sickness bug go around the class literally every child had it. Obviously it makes me concerned once Covid is in that class esp as she is so poorly with a cold. 🤦🏼‍♀️.[/quote]
I get how frustrating it is, my eldest when they were younger (way before Covid) was the kid that was always ill, always coming down with bugs, always off of school, always in and out of A&E and the GPs.

Seriously, it it was going around they would catch it. However, apart from the odd prescription they never did anything about it.

Whenever I questioned why they were always so ill, I would get looked at like I was mad and basically told kids get ill, some kids get sicker than others, but kids will catch something or other.

Even now, despite being much older, they catch most things which are going around, they have a chronic cough which starts around September/ October and has been known to last until Easter. Still, no one cares.

My youngest hasn’t been quite as bad, but still catches most things doing the rounds and recovers much quicker than my eldest does.

To be honest, it amazes me that as far as we are aware they have never brought home Covid. They bring home everything else. However, despite the numerous coughs and colds we have had since the pandemic started we have never had a positive LFT or PCR test.

My eldest currently had their annual winter cough, however numerous PCR tests tell me it’s just ‘their’ normal cough they have gotten every year since they were a baby.

It’s just twice as stressful this year (and last year) because of people judging me thinking I am allowing my son to spread Covid around. When it’s not Covid, I can show you all the tests we have taken if you like.

The alternative is locking them up until Spring.

@ScottishTinydancer321

Are you the op?

Also just to add where we are Covid is rife. Lots of schools have gone back to bubbles for that last week of term 😬. I’m sick of visiting the testing site as mine always have a temp or cough with just a cold. Maybe it’s just my kids.

@ScottishTinydancer321

Failed name change

Can you not see how utterly confusing your post is.

Covid has fuck all to do with your situation

@ScottishTinydancer321

Also just to add where we are Covid is rife. Lots of schools have gone back to bubbles for that last week of term 😬. I’m sick of visiting the testing site as mine always have a temp or cough with just a cold. Maybe it’s just my kids.

I haven’t visited once Just get it posted

@SpringRainbow yes that’s why I do the tests well older school would send them home, but it’s for going out or to the doctors. We were lucky as they put baby on a green ward in our own room. Rather than a amber one. To get tested.

Lots of healthy foods.

Hand washing always encouraged. All this ' germs are good for you , build immunity etc ' talk, sure but if it's the sake of washing hands and possibly reducing the chances of a nasty sickness bug being transmitted by hand/ mouth route or not washing hands then I know which I would prefer for my children.

A good probiotic too is good.

Speak to school too. Have a chat with them.

@Oysterbabe Kids that haven't spent time in another childcare setting will get ill A LOT for the first 6 months or so of school. It will settle down.

This is what I’m thinking. It’s like “freshers’ flu.” It’s cold/flu season so I’m not surprised OP’s Dd is feeling “run down.” She’s 5 and hasn’t been around other dc much prior to this academic year (therefore hasn’t built up immunity to colds). 5-6yo aren’t great at monitoring their own hygiene, including covering their nose and mouth when they sneeze.

I’m really sorry about your two week old. My little boy had that when he was 8 weeks and it was so scary to watch as there were times when he couldn’t catch his breath!

I’m a secondary school teacher and the harvest festival does sound like a bad idea…we’ve cancelled all assemblies, prize giving evenings etc and parents’ evenings will continue to be online for now.

However, the rest of it does sound like fairly normal “freshers flu” for school children! My DS who is 1 has just started nursery and within the first four weeks he’s had hand foot and mouth and that flu that’s not Covid but may as well be twice! He’s picking everything up as he isn’t used to it…it will get better.

All of us are going to pick things up this winter as we’ve had 18 months of avoiding it. Pre pandemic, my immune system was probably the best it could be (working in the classroom). I would avoid the sickness bugs and flu bugs the vast majority of the time, despite being surrounded by them daily…in 11 years of teaching I have been “seriously ill” as I’m unable to teach only four times. However, I spent one day in work at the start of September and caught the flu…I’ve already had it again since then! Again, I’ll will get better but will take a bit of time for my body to fight germs as effectively as it used to.

Awful as it sounds it might be better that they're getting it out the way now, while they're little. Much harder to be off school every few weeks when they're older. Harder to catch-up with school and missing out on social events etc.

It's hard when they are constantly poorly. My 2nd born was constantly ill up until 2 / 3.

Nothing too serious, but did involve lots of antibiotics and it was incredibly hard going. Even when he wasn't ill he would spike a really high temp at least once a week and would regularly be sick when he did - even though it wasn't sickness bugs.

He did grow out of it. Just took time.

He is still more prone to bugs than his sister and usually does end up on antibiotics when he is ill - but it's few and far between.

He has just recovered from a nasty case of tonsillitis and its the illest he's been for a very long time so I think this year many be tougher than previous winters.

But ultimately he is a very healthy little boy and normally he fights things very well. School is the best place for him to be as its exposing him to the germs that he needs to be exposed to, to get his immune system back to normal.

His sister will probably go through this winter with only a little sniffle as it's very rare for her to be ill.

Your child has a legal right to an education. Pull her out, you homeschool. With a baby. Last year was not homeschooling. It was getting by. Doing what was needed. Children have fallen significantly behind with their education from it. Work was provided by qualified teachers at school.

Proper homeschooling is buying every resource you need. Becoming a full time teacher. Ensuring your child is on target. Planning & assessing work. Providing records of your education to the council. Ensuring your child is well socialised with other homeschooling families. Your priority must be your child’s education. That I’d extremely tough with a newborn baby.

Kids get ill all the time. My DD has started school this time & has had approx 100 coughs & colds. She had less illness at pre-school because they were outdoors pretty much all day. Very different to school.

You think the answer to your kids having low immunity to bugs is to reduce their contact with those bugs and illnesses?

Fgs, children need exposure to viruses!

Are you aware children at that age have weak immune systems and its flu season!?.. Stop being so hysterical.

I think what I’m getting at is she is spending less time at school than in it because she is constantly sick. Hopefully things will improve. Sadly I can’t delete my post, but I did put my hands up and say I was being silly it was the middle of the night and I have not slept for weeks because of the bugs in the house. However I’m very concerned about the time she is missing! She has been to school 13 days last term as was either too sick, or waiting pcr results as had temp or cough. I can’t see how that is a education either it’s actually doing more harm as she keeps going back and has no idea what’s going on. She always has Sen. I feel frustrated I bother with the pcr and keep her off while others don’t bother. This year is extremely rare I doubt there will be another year like this one coming up, with Covid and the fact we were isolating last year.

I don't think your reaction is extreme at all. Your daughter keeps getting ill and every time it knocks her for six. Is she actually benefiting from school at all when she is so poorly all the time?

Many people are making the point that you can't protect her from everything. This is true. But you could drastically reduce the frequency of her illnesses if she weren't crammed in with dozens of other kids every day, especially since they're getting sent in to school when they're obviously infectious.

We home educate, and we've met some families whose kids came out of school because the environment was ruining their health. Being able to play with smaller groups of friends, postpone playdates if somebody is sniffly, and play outdoors are all tremendously helpful. That wasn't the reason we chose home ed, but it is definitely a bonus.

I'm not convinced about this idea that kids' immune systems do need to be exposed to quite such excessive amounts of illness in order for them to grow up healthy. Most of the home ed kids I know HAVE been thrown into crowded environments eventually, at college or uni. They don't suffer constant bouts of illness at that stage. I don't buy the idea that it's a necessary rite of passage to catch everything going at the age of five, which will somehow benefit the child in the long run. It doesn't tally with my observations of kids who have been spared that ordeal.

Maybe your daughter really would benefit from some time out of school until she is properly recovered and healthy enough to withstand the daily onslaught of bugs without it taking such a toll on her. What about having a year out?

@Saracen thank you. I would never just not educate her like others have judged I would. Because I’m a sen parent with a sen community I know quite a lot who home school. For some reasons kids like mine with neurological conditions seem to have a weekend immune system (reason they were given the vaccine first from 12 plus) before mainstream kids were.
She needs to be in school to get a education and I never said I would keep her isolated but stated her siblings have not caught half hardly anything as the standards are different there. I have never kept mine of for sniffles 🤦🏼‍♀️. Every year there are different variants of cold and flu.
I think I will give it another half term. Just seeing them so poorly and being so relentless just stressed me out.
Thank you for your kind response and nice hearing from a home school parent 💕

Op
Your posting history is literally all about anxiety regarding covid and health.
The very fact you are wrapping up covid with normal childhood winter bugs speaks volumes on this thread.

I think you would benefit from talking about your anxieties.

@Oftenithinkaboutit thanks for reading through my old posts. I was very anxious about it when I’m my third trimester and not fully vaxed (had to wait in between dosages and was anxious as was told at first not to have vaccine as was pregnant then gov changed their minds). I did but was 37 weeks pregnant by the time fully vaxed. (If you look pregnant people in their 3rd trimester who are not fully vaxed are more likely to need icu. Also my Nan was CEV was anxious for her and made me feel anxious for other cev. I do believe in masks and do believe we can be adapt to some changes rather than say get on with life as normal. However I’m frustrated as school is allowing kids with symptoms to attend and not asking for pcrs, where my older kids school will only let kids go with symptoms who have pcr test. It’s not 2 separate issues. As every time my daughter is poorly it leads to a infection (every time! Every time antibiotics) this means she gets a temp, so every time she needs 2-3 days off for a pcr, ever time! Let alone her actually being poorly…. However I’m frustrated as other parents Are not doing this they are living their normal life. I’m stating she is missing so much school from being poorly. Every more frustrating is her having 4 days off being really poorly then getting W temp or cough and then having to wait even more days and having more time off…
I’m far less anxious but I’m considerate, I where masks to protect CEV. I think Xmas plays with all school parents isn’t a great idea, it’s not I don’t want this to happen but I don’t think it’s great idea…. My other kids school are not doing this.
I’m concerned about my daughters education as she is always off poorly. Just seen another post on here and actually a few people put how they are annoyed with other parents sending their kids in school poorly (Covid non Covid) to spread. I’m not the only person.
Like luckily we don’t get to go any where fun or
Days out anymore as my daughter is always stuck in poorly because she attends school a few days when she isn’t poorly then spends every weekend poorly 😬🙄. Again not with just a average cold, again I have 2 older kids who have all been through that and we got one with life.
Maybe unless your child constantly gets this poorly or you had a new born and within 2 weeks of them being born already needed hospital admission because of the terrible year of illness this year because of covid you can’t get it.
I’m not trying to be rude to you as your comment didn’t come across rude, but it’s not like she has a sniffle and I’m
Keeping her off. It’s all night upset, and in day, a new born catching it and being really poorly too just to add to that issue. Some schools have more rules than others. Like I though ventilation and open windows were suppose to still be a thing. 😬

What’s your issue with the school requiring a LFT only

* Research shows rapid tests are 99.9% accurate. This means the chance of getting a false-positive result (where the result shows as positive but is actually negative) is extremely low.*

NHS website

What is your daughter getting that requires multiple antibiotics? They don’t prescribe for a temperature or a cold

But if she’s poorly enough to be on antibiotics
She’d be off school anyway
So waiting for the pcr test result anyway presumably not an issue as she’d be off anyway if suffering from an infection and on antibiotics

My children’s nursery are taking covid very seriously, yet both mine have been ill since September, stomach bugs, cold, coughs, I thought we’d completed this part but it seems their sporadic attendance the last year due to covid has meant they’re almost starting again