So feb up tempted to pull out of school!

[Tinydancer321]

I have 4 Kids, 2 older (1 primary 1 secondary) as a den school. Have not caught any bugs from school and school taking Covid seriously.
I also have another primary child in mainstream and and a 2 week old baby.
Primary child daughter is in year 1, every 2 weeks has daughter another bug, currently on bug number 4! The school are not taking Covid seriously at all, kids are going in with coughs and temps and the school are saying nothing even had a harvest festival in a hall full of parents coughing too. Most parents at the schools very un bothered about
Covid.
My daughter again is very poorly high temp, sore throat.
My 2 week old actually ended up with bronchiolitis and we are just getting over it (caught from my primary daughter) who needed hospital now we have another bug in the house.
I’m now poorly too.
I’m so tempted to pull her from school there must be more to life than catching illness after illness.
In 6 weeks she has caught 4 bugs, and had 3 pcrs (the other parents don’t bother testing).
Clearly Covid will rip through the school, already lots of parents have sent their kids when they have had Covid and not tested the kids as it only says “should”. Most
Parents at the schools have good jobs and won’t take time off so send their kids in poorly. The school only care about their attendance records. I feel so torn. I hate keep seeing her so poorly! She has had no let up. Now half term and we will be doing nothing fun as we are poorly
Again.

The harvest festival sounds like a dumb idea in the circumstances, tbh. Maybe they have a problem with cleaning and hygiene, too - maybe the cleaner’s off sick! Some primary schools are very dirty and poorly ventilated. You could alway try asking the school if they have any measures in place, such as classroom ventilation, more regular handwashing, more regular cleaning of high contact areas, restrictions on school visitors (eg asking cisitors to wear masks, limits on numbers), and what their measures are, or if they really have thrown all caution to the winds.

I feel like this is a very extreme reaction to something that is very normal. My DC has had constant mild, overlapping colds since he went back to school this year. They are generally mild enough that save for a few days at home, we’ve been able to live life normally. I certainly wouldn’t say regular colds is impacting his (or our) life (lives) so much that school isn’t worth it. He gets so much from school in terms of learning, friendships etc and the downside is a lot of mild illnesses, which isn’t much of a downside.
I keep catching whatever he has and at suffering more than him, which is annoying, but it still isn’t that big a deal really.

Your poor baby, hope they are recovering speedily.

But I do think pulling your DD from school is not the right reaction, I think I remember from a previous thread that you’ve already pulled all of the children out for some weeks before you gave birth? Our children have missed so much education, Y1 children had a hugely disrupted, ‘not normal’ experience in Reception. There is so much they need to catch up on, socially as well as educationally.

Schools are rife with non-Covid colds this winter, children are mixing more both in and out of school. Adults are mixing much more. It’s not necessarily that the school’s protocols are at fault.

My kid has just moved into the toddler room and he's had back to back colds, coughs and sneezes.

He stopped being a potato baby who eats shits and cries just as first lockdown happened so he's not been able to explore the world, and now he can but the caveat is he's picking everything up that he would have at around 1 year old.

What’s covid got to do with it?

Your post is confusing

On one hand your children have not caught covid
They are just catching winter bugs
But you’re blaming the school for not taking covid seriously

Confused

It’s really important that children catch these mild illnesses to build up immunity later in life. Already we are seeing these ‘super colds’ emerging, having only been isolating for a year on and off. Not exposing your kids to natural and normal childhood bugs that they catch at nursery and school so that they build up resistance is not a good idea.

Home educating at yr1 with a newborn, especially this time of year is not easy. You can do it but it’s better if you can get out for walks and set activities in the garden, go to the library and other local groups. She could end up spending a lot of time on screens. It depends how worried you are about covid coming into the home.

You would have to keep them away from absolutely everyone

The thing is, if you pulled them out of school, you'd end up making the situation worse.

They're getting unwell as others have said because they've not been exposed to bugs as kids usually would be, but if you take them out of school then that will continue.

Firstborn kids do pick up an insane amount of lurgy when they start nursery/school, unfortunately they will pass it on to their siblings.

Your youngest will be bomb-proof when they get there though, as they'll have been exposed to everything already! Silver lining...

Will you keep your kids out of school every winter? Because this will happen every winter (and maybe summer too).

Best bet is to speak to the school about the way in which they're handling covid but kids do not have to isolate anymore and how do you know those going in with coughs haven't had negative lateral flows?

I also think this sounds like a quite erratic and extreme reaction to something that happens a lot even in non covid times.

It is so stressful when you have a TINY baby and of course you don't want them to be exposed to all sorts of bugs! Really hard when you have bigger kids at school and a teeny one at home. Covid makes this even more stressful, definitely.

I know some parents are less bothered about it too, so I'm sure you're right that some aren't testing. But then some people want everyone tested for every time a child sneezes or coughs once, which also isn't realistic as they'd miss so much school when they have already missed out on so much.

All really difficult times and you have a lot on your plate. I don't think taking them out of school is the answer though, if you really meant that.

I have days where my DS has just brought back the 4th bug from nursery that month and I contemplate hiding under a rock for a couple of weeks just so we can all be well. But realistically it’s just something they have to go through to build up an immune system and nothing nursery could reasonably do would make any difference. There seems to be a lot of bugs around at the moment.

My kids school are extremely strict about Covid regulations (I work there and it’s a bit frustrating at times though understandable). My year 1 child is on his third cold since the summer. He’s never off sick but has been off twice this half term. They are absolutely rife and no amount of restrictions, hand washing and cleaning is stopping it spreading. If you have genuine reasons for wanting to pull your daughter from school then do, but getting ill in the autumn term of school is annoyingly, part of primary school.

The illness they catch all boost their immunity to different viruses and illness while young. I know it’s a merry go round of viruses but people are just much more aware at the minute because children haven’t been ill when not in school. Everyone’s forgot how much kids can get ill.

I was ill all through my childhood, always had a cold or a cough or a chest infection. I’m a very well,healthy adult.

You're talking about 'bugs' and Covid in the same sentence, have any of the PCR tests you've had actually been positive or are you just mentioning Covid for the drama?

Kids are getting loads of colds this year because they have no immunity from not mixing.
My son year 1 is in school with a cough, we all had covid 4 weeks ago. He now has a winter cough and is not missing any more school he is already behind.

@AnEpisodeOfEastenders

You're talking about 'bugs' and Covid in the same sentence, have any of the PCR tests you've had actually been positive or are you just mentioning Covid for the drama?

Yep

Her kids are getting very ordinary winter ailments. But she wants to blame someone.

Sorry I am very sleep deprived as since having a baby everyone is being poorly and taking her out school is a little extreme. I don’t mind home school Tbf this last year she has spent more time out of school poorly than in. She went to pre school too. We just have not been out as she is poorly every weekend! Just seem to be on a constant pcr tests!
I know a lot of parents in her class don’t do pcr they don’t want the time off work as can’t afford it. Like I said I love her school but they are not saying or checking when kids go in with coughsX where my other kids school would send them home for a pcr. Im not judging like they are all happy their kids don’t need to be tested if they are positive if showing no symptoms. Obviously it’s a mix. I feel very annoyed with the government as I don’t feel we are in a better position than lockdown least I could teach my child now she is to poorly since September to learn anything 😂🤦🏼‍♀️. Although my post was ott. I think I’m just so upset wanted to do fun thing instead we are poorly again, doctors hospitals repeat she does have medical issues meaning she has low immunity obviously seeing baby so poorly (very little you can do other than breastfeed, saline drops and humidifier) has effected me 😂😂. She also has special needs (fighting for a ehcp), sadly I can’t be at school reminding her to wash her hand 🤦🏼‍♀️

If bugs are spreading like this clearly Covid will too just don’t want them both at the same time. I’m not trying to be dramatic. I have had no sleep in a few weeks all poorly I’m annoyed 😂. I came to vent. Luckily I’m not the only judgy one as seems there is a few of us on this post 👌🏼😂

There are no windows open in the classrooms and seems to just been forgotten. One school we get a email and letter every week reminding us the reasons to test, the other school not heard a thing 😂. I get kids get poorly and this year is going to be terrible. I have never hid my kids from illnesses before. But my baby was in hospital the other night on oxygen as couldn’t breathe. I’m allowed to worried. It’s only October. I should imagine I’m being ott 😂, I’m really not saying I’m being normal. But it’s been traumatic.

You have older kids? Have you seriously forgotten what it’s like when kids first start nursery/ school and suddenly get exposed to all the usual bugs and viruses?

This sounds completely normal to me?!

Also my dd isn’t getting it mildly. My other older kids have but she is on her 6th antibiotic this year.. I mean screaming in pain stupidly high temps, not being able to eat and drink.
I’m not talking mild cold (I have older kids I’m well use to cold and flus). Literally white as ghost not being able to do anything. Her education is being totally more effected this term than lockdown terms! Sorry still reading the posts.
The other school even has a cleaner cleaning the school the whole day (I’m pretty sure I have one extreme school and another) which isn’t helping. Again I’m not going to do it. I was just like wtf last night when she finished antibiotics last week and last night poorly again burning up delirious. It’s just been constant and I want to protect her.

@SpringRainbow she hasn’t suddenly started though! She went full time nursery since 2! None of my others have been like this. My eldest had asthma but we have honestly never had anything like this. She literally isn’t getting well ebefore she catches something else. I’m not talking about a snotty nose literally she just spends days laying on the sofa crying. Luckily she was sick when they had the sickness bug go around the class literally every child had it. Obviously it makes me concerned once Covid is in that class esp as she is so poorly with a cold. 🤦🏼‍♀️.